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5th Circuit studies prayer at school board meetings

By The Associated Press

NEW ORLEANS — "Tell me how this is not proselytizing," a federal appeals judge asked an attorney for the Tangipahoa Parish School Board, and read a sentence thanking God for "your greatest gift of all, your son Jesus Christ."

Minutes later, another judge asked an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union why a school board should be excluded from the 1983 U.S. Supreme Court ruling Marsh v. Chambers, which found that legislatures and "other deliberative public bodies" may open meetings with a prayer.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was hearing the board's appeal of a federal judge's ruling that school boards are different from other panels elected to make laws or rules, because they are integral parts of school systems.

"In officially promoting a religious practice at its governmental meetings, the board is doing what its schools and teachers cannot do, favor religion over nonreligion and endorse particular religious faiths," Chief Judge Helen G. Berrigan of Louisiana's Eastern District wrote nearly a year ago.

The suit challenging the school board's practice was brought anonymously — by John Doe for his children, James and Jack Doe — because the family said they were afraid of harassment or retribution.

There's no way to tell how long it will take for the 5th Circuit to rule, attorneys for both sides said after yesterday's hearing.

Only one other federal appeals court, the Cincinnati-based 6th Circuit, has ruled on whether board meetings may open with prayer, and it was deeply split, board attorney Kirk Gasperecz told the panel of Judges Rhesa H. Barksdale, Carl E. Stewart and Edith Brown Clement.

When Barksdale asked whether the prayer was proselytizing, Gasperecz answered, "Some people could see that as proselytizing." But it doesn't try to convert anyone — and the board has never set out written limits of what is allowable, he said.

"Don't you have to be invited to give a prayer?" Barksdale asked.

One board member or another chooses, but anyone can ask, Gasperecz said.

"Has there ever been any prayer of any religion other than Christian?"

"The record does not show any," Gasperecz said.

Berrigan's ruling is wrong because a school board meeting is held after school hours, outside any school building, and no children are required to attend, Gasperecz said. The 6th Circuit ruling on school board prayers, Coles v. Cleveland Board of Education, doesn't apply because that Ohio city's school board has a student member, and the Tangipahoa board doesn't, he added.

When Ronald Wilson began arguments for the ACLU, the questions were equally pointed.

All three judges asked why a school board shouldn't be considered a deliberative body.

"It is a deliberative body," Wilson said. But, he said, the Supreme Court decision was really about legislatures.

The Supreme Court meant just what it said, Clement told Wilson. If it hadn't, she said, echoing a statement in the school board's legal briefs, "it would have been real easy to take those four words out."

The decision talked about a tradition that had continued for 200 years, Wilson said. "School boards were virtually nonexistent at the founding of the Constitution," he said.

Barksdale asked whether opening with just "God Bless the school board," would be illegal.

Wilson said he thought it was wrong, but "would probably pass constitutional muster."

Divided 5th Circuit panel opens door for nonsectarian school-board prayer
Majority upholds district judge's view that Tangipahoa, La., board's previous practice of prayer violated First Amendment ban on government promotion of religion. 12.18.06

Louisiana school boards pray, defying ruling
Tangipahoa Parish board, which lost court ruling, forgoes public prayer to begin meeting, but other boards pray in protest. 03.03.05


Louisiana school board can't open sessions with prayer

Federal judge says that as integral parts of school systems, boards are barred from endorsing particular religious beliefs. 02.28.05

ACLU wants school officials jailed for flouting prayer ban
For fourth time in less than two months, group notifies federal judge that teachers, administrators in Louisiana parish have violated court settlement. 05.20.05

Federal judge: Louisiana teacher didn't violate prayer ban
Court says teacher's Bible club, other activities weren't expressly prohibited by lawsuit settlement between Tangipahoa Parish, ACLU. 07.20.05

La. school board held in contempt for violating prayer ban
Federal judge finds prayers offered by students at two school banquets breached 2004 agreement between ACLU, Tangipahoa officials. 07.02.06

ACLU: Deal reached in student teacher's suit over school prayer
Cynthia Thompson sued Tangipahoa Parish School Board, Southeastern Louisiana University, saying she entered 'nightmare' of constant prayer, proselytizing in fourth-grade class. 10.04.06

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