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FBI: CAIR is a front group, and Holy Land Foundation tapped Hamas clerics for fundraisers

6:47 PM Tue, Oct 07, 2008 |  | 
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ShukriAbuBaker.JPGThe FBI took a new slap at the Council on American-Islamic Relations today at the Holy Land Foundation terrorism financing trial.

FBI Special Agent Lara Burns was going over more transcripts from the Philadelphia meeting -- the 1993 gathering of Holy Land officials and Hamas sympathizers that the government contends was meant to brainstorm ways to downplay the Foundation's extremist ties -- when talk turned to a passage from defendant Shukri Abu Baker.

He is quoted on the wiretap transcript talking about how it would be beneficial to have more traditional, secular American organizations to help spread the Islamist message.

He and others envisioned an "alternative" organization "which can benefit from a new atmosphere, one whose Islamic hue is not very conspicuous," he said according to the transcript.

Prosecutor Barry Jonas asked Burns whether any groups formed after the Philadelphia gathering fit this mold. "CAIR," she said.

2001HolyLandRaid.JPGCAIR is one of about 300 unindicted co-conspirators in the Holy Land case, and testimony has shown that its founder, Omar Ahmad, and current executive director, Nihad Awad, both participated in the Philadelphia meeting.

CAIR has strenuously denied having any terrorist ties, and has filed a request -- similar to other groups -- to have its name removed from the government's list of co-conspirators. CAIR maintains that it is a civil rights group focused on promoting understanding of Islam and combating unfair treatment of American Muslims.

Joshua Dratel, attorney for defendant Mohammad El-Mezain, later grilled Burns on her CAIR testimony.

"Just to be sure," he said, raising up a large posterboard with the name "Council on American-Islamic Relations" scrawled across it, "this is the one with the inconspicuous Islamist hue?"

+ Later Tuesday, Burns' counterpart, FBI Special Agent Robert Miranda, began his testimony detailing the type of people Holy Land routinely called on to speak at its fundraisers in the U.S.

He and prosecutor Jim Jacks went through a list of Holy Land speakers, seized from a computer at its Richardson offices in 2001, and compared it to lists of known Hamas members and associates.

They found dozens of matches of names and phone numbers among Holy Land speakers and a roster of Hamas members found at the Mississippi apartment of unindicted coconspirator Abdelhaleem Ashqar. Holy Land speakers' names also showed up in the address book of Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook, who has extensive ties financially and personally to many of the defendants.

Defense attorneys and their clients grinned and looked at each other every time Miranda referred to the owner of the address book as "the terrorist Marzook."

Among those on Holy Land's speakers list are Mahmoud al-Zahar (a Hamas co-founder), Jamil Hamami, Mohammed Siam and Hamed Bitawi. All of them are listed on a huge chart prosecutors made for jurors titled "Hamas Leaders In The 1990s."

The Holy Land speakers list also shared some names in a pamphlet outlining the roster of candidates for Jordan's Islamic Action Front political party. The group is, like Hamas, an offshoot of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, Miranda testified. Their platform, according to the pamphlet, says basically that Palestine must be wrested from Israeli occupation through jihad. The FBI found the pamphlet at Holy Land's offices.

Miranda and Jacks then began going through speaker activity sheets and other records, connecting fundraising appearances by these Hamas-affiliated speakers and money in Holy Land coffers.

Miranda's testimony resumes Wednesday.

Read more:
-- Tuesday blog: Holy Land Foundation defense attorneys challenge government evidence
-- Week two summary: Age of evidence in Holy Land terror funds trial becomes an issue
-- Week one summary: Key evidence unveiled against former Richardson Muslim charity
-- Overview as the trial began: 2nd chance to try Holy Land Foundation defendants

You can also examine the evidence here




Comments

How many times must it be proven that CAIR actively supports Islamic terrorism and Islamic terrorists?

They have told us, repeatedly, what they have planned for us, and our county.

When are we going to:

a) Listen to them.
b) Take them seriously.

Andrew Whitehead
Director, Anti-Council on American-Islamic Relations (Anti-CAIR)
ajwhitehead@anti-cair-net.org


Mr.Whitehead,

The history in the last 5000 years is vey clear in whom are the anti people and anti other religions. Please Do not brag about CAIR and you have 5000 years of tainted history.


A Square is a Rectangle but a rectangle is not a Square. "Secular American organizations to help spread the Islamist message" does not equal terrorism. First amendment rights does not equal terrorism . When was the meeting and when was Hamas declared illegal ? I guess there is no Statute of Limitations on Fantasies.
Gee I miss the Constitution


Mr.Whitehead,

The history in the last 5000 years is vey clear in whom are the anti people and anti other religions. Please Do not brag about CAIR and you have 5000 years of tainted history.


When Defense Atty Dratel challenged Agent Burns over the purpose and name of CAIR, he glossed over the very reason CAIR came into being: in order to blur the extreme differences between the views and goals of IslamIC-American community and that of the IslamIST.

It has been pointed out over and over again that not all Islamics are terrorists or embrace terrorism as a means to an end. The same cannot be said for Islamists, who do embrace terrorism as a means to their end.

CAIR seeks to blur the distinct differences between Islamic and IslamIST in the mind of the American public, media and government. We have to learn how to tell the difference between IslamIC and IslamIST.


“Of all the groups, there is probably more suspicion about CAIR, but when you ask people for cold hard facts, you get blank stares.”
-Michael Rolince, a retired F.B.I. official who directed counterterrorism in the Washington field office from 2002 to 2005 (Source: New York Times, 3/14/2007)

“The Washington Field Office of the FBI praises CAIR’s dedication in representing the heart of the Muslim American community.”
-Congratulatory letter from the Washington, DC Field Office of the FBI

See:
http://www.cair.com/AboutUs/WhatTheySayAboutCAIR.aspx

Corey Saylor
National Legislative Director, CAIR


Hey Saylor, tell us, was CAIR founded by the Muslim Brotherhood, as the Justice Department has twice stated in court pleadings, to reduce "Jewish influence" and to advance the Brotherhood's agenda in the U.S., as your former CEO was caught saying on wiretaps?


John, to answer your question: "Hamas is listed as a terrorist organization by Canada, the European Union,Israel, Japan, and the United States, and is banned in Jordan." -from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas. Providing financial support to Hamas is a federal offense.


CAIR is an islamic front spreading silent jihad against the west, using our freedoms and rights against us to attempt to destroy us from within.

CAIR, and the rest of the muslim movement is intent on establishing their universal ummah- nothing less is acceptable.

O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty. (9:123)

Sounds like a real peaceful religion to me, eh?

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (9:29)

What happens if we choose not to follow 9:29 or 9:123? (We, being me and many other infidel/kaffir)... If we dont pay the tax or submit to this barbarism disguised as religion? We are killed.

Political correctness is destroying the UK and all of europe right now. Stealth Jihad is underway right now here in the US. It's time for people to stand up for AMERICAN values. CAIR and all other MB front groups should be declared illegal organizations and shut down.

If immigrants don't cherish American values, then you are welcome... no, actually we prefer you return to where your values are the law of the land.


Corey Saylor is once again obscuring the facts.

Here's the TRUTH about the FBI and CAIR:

"In response to Rolince's unfounded assertion about CAIR, former FBI agent Mike Rolf stated, "It is clear that CAIR has had a number of people in positions of power within the organization that have been directly connected to terrorism and have either been prosecuted or thrown out of the country. There are no blank stares from people working in counterterrorism in the U.S., and it is troubling that CAIR seems unable to directly and specifically condemn terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah."

http://www.investigativeproject.org/article/214

Corey Saylor, like the rest of CAIR's hired help, is lying about CAIR's birth for Hamas.

The FBI has the goods on CAIR's founders - Chairman Emeritus Omar Ahmad, and Nihad Awad, creating CAIR to "infiltrate" our institutions.

Here's the court document of an FBI wiretap to prove it:

http://www.txnd.uscourts.gov/judges/hlf2/09-29-08/Philly%20Meeting%204.pdf


So does this mean the end of CAIR is nigh?


Clearly there are a bunch of liberal children on this board who believe in the "generic humanity" of everyone on earth.

WAKE UP.

There are people who would sooner slaughter you than give you the time of day.


It's about time someone in this gov't has finally waken up and smelled the coffee....uh I mean the camel dung... This country has been quietly getting over run with these muslims who are using our own laws of the constitution against us only to make us a nation under sharia law and bowing down to some nut case named mohammond who started all of this moon god worship deception.


If it's any consolation - here in the UK we have the same spineless head in the Sand Politicians as you guys!
Kick Islam out ban the Koran - end of!


John Shade, your comment shows you have a lot to learn - "What happens if we choose not to follow 9:29 or 9:123? (We, being me and many other infidel/kaffir)... If we dont pay the tax or submit to this barbarism disguised as religion? We are killed."

Historically, Muslims have been more tolerant of Christians and Jews than vice versa. Look at places like Spain, where Muslims ruled for 700 years - Christians and Jews lived freely under them. When the Christians took over - they forcibly converted or killed the Jews and Muslims. Where did the fleeing Jews choose to go - to the Muslim Ottoman empire. Only in the 20th century did the Western world become more tolerant.

The tax you refer to is not applied anywhere in the world by Muslims today. Even when it was applied, it was a tax on non-Muslims yes but Muslims had to pay different taxes.

There are many Quranic verses which command tolerance and coexistence with others. For example 2:256 - There is no compulsion in religion.


This is a witch hunt. Our country's descent into fascism is at stake when we allow ourselves to despise the maligned "Other" - in this case the followers of the religion of Islam. We should recall that anti-religous hatred is especially dangerous. Let's not allow fascism to take hold in America.


Sarah Silver, you sound like a robot. Why don't you stand on top of the footprint of the World Trade towers and then preach your pre-recorded script to real Americans about the "poorIslamicpeepull." It was "poorIslamicpeepull" that decided to use a commercial aircraft as a missile to kill Americans and destroy American icons on 9-11. I guess you forgot or weren't born yet.


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