Christian Soldiers
The strategy that underlies many missionaries' reverence for Allah.
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The strategy that underlies many missionaries' reverence for Allah.
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As far as the tactics of the "CAMEL's", missionaries vary; some are more aggressive, or by the writer's apparent implication, deceptive. The Apostle Paul wrote, "I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some." This does mean deception, but to find common ground from which to approach people. Paul did this in Athens, borrowing from Greek religion and literature to create this opportunity. With Jews, he initially went to synagogues, and contended with them there. At a number of points, he was beaten and thrown into prison. Tradition has it that he died in prison waiting for his chance to get to Rome.
The Koran is a natural "bridge" to Muslims, as the Bible is to Christians. There is absolutely nothing wrong with utilizing them. Likewise, terminology like "Muslim," as the writer states, has been used as such a bridge - as the writer says - one "submitted to God." Christ, loosely translated, could be interpreted as "Chosen One" ["Word of God," again as the writer suggests, is a common term to the 2 faiths. The question is, of, course, what it means. A good place to start discussing the issue].
I live in a "Muslim" country [not Oklahoma, actually]. Here, in my university, the Bible is a "forbidden" book; if you look for it in the library [by computer], you warned of such in no uncertain terms. Students at my school have attempted to proselytize me, something also forbidden by law to non-Muslims.
Why do I share that? I believe those Muslims have a right to share their faith with me, in virtually any way they choose. I am willing to accept the restrictions here [as a Christian] because I think our presence here important enough to accept the restrictions. Several students asked to borrow the Bible from me, and I have allowed it - I could be fired and put out of the country if this were discovered. But as they have the right, I believe, to share their faith, the same right do I have. We are both willing to take the risks in doing so.
As for the Pentecostals in Nigeria, and the CAMEL's wherever they are, I see nothing wrong with what they are doing. Strife may very well result, but honest "evangelical" Christians, and Muslims, would have it no other way.
This generalisation is generally innaccurate both in terms of: (A) my experience; and (B) Islamic history and theology.
(A) - While visiting numerous different Muslim countries (Arab and otherwise) I have been subject to informal proselytising which is usually very friendly and not at all aggressive. Organised proselytising is undertaken by many contempory organisations/sects (a particularly well funded example being Salafi groups) both within and beyond what is traditionally seen as the Muslim world.
(B) - Many different Muslim groups have a historical tradition of organised proselytising activity, often referred to as da'wah (دعوة), meaning "issuing a summons" or "making an invitation". The Qu'ran uses the expression da'wah when instructing Muslims to encourage piety amongst their co-religionists. This instruction was broadened to include non-Muslims as Islamic theology matured in the two or three centuries following the death of Muhammad.
What a monumental waste of time and humanity all this proselytizing and slicing and dicing and warmongering among the religions is. Truly insane.
So today, finding common ground is now divisive? Aren't you letting the perfect be the enemy of the good? To be sure, some object to the use many have put these commonalities to. But after all, perhaps this is the only way Muslims and Christians will ever find common ground: why are you trying so hard to destroy it?
I thought the author's analogy of Muslim evangelizers trying to convert Christian children and the reaction we would have, quite thought provoking. Perhaps Christians should try to convert people by living lives of charity and love that would attract people to their beliefs rather than try to aggressively evangelize by disingenuous methods.
So can political, social, environmental and other missionaries.
I'm tired of people of all kinds trying to convince me to vote their way, recycle, eat or not eat certain foods, or whatever.
It's not just organized religions who have annoying "true believers."
I put up with all these annoyances, because our social and political system is based on there being a marketplace of ideas. We protect and even encourage participation in this marketplace.
The article actually seems to justify the use of violence when someone is talking about religious concepts they don't agree with by blaming talkers for violent reaction.
In the past, "Christian soldiers," were literally soldiers. There were conversions by the sword. Much of the Islamic world was also converted to Islam by the sword as well. All the Christians in the Middle East didn't suddenly one day decide to become Muslims without military conquest by Muslim armies coercion.
In modern times, Christians seem to have been "converted" to using the marketplace of ideas and abandoning forced conversions. That seems like progress.
I am surprised to find the New York times and many of its readers seeming to advocate creating a religious exception to the marketplace of ideas concept as a societal model.
Is that progress?
But here is one fact that many of my fellow Christians tend to forget: we're sinners too, and we need to stop publicly acting like we're not. All I ask is that you don't blame God for the acts of sinful people, and don't blame all Christians for the acts of those in public view.
Many Christian missionaries are doing wonderful work in the Muslim world and are doing so without fomenting conflict, and by leading by example. Those who aggressively seek to undermine the faith of others, or worse -- to essentially bribe the poor with resources in exchange for conversion -- do harm to our American interests abroad and to the reputation of the many admirable and selfless Christian missionaries doing good works internationally.
First of all, there is nothing offensive about spreading the Good News of Christ. The Bible charges believers with the duty to go out into the world and speak of Jesus and the salvation offered through Him. We are responsible for building the Kingdom of God on Earth and do so by sharing the Gospel.
There are indeed common threads between Muslim teachings and the Bible and it does a great deal of good in the effort towards world peace to discuss them. Understanding not only our differences, but also our commonalities, is the best way to create dialogue between cultures and religions.
On the issue of faith being an entirely personal endeavor, I must disagree in part. Following Christ and knowing God are multifaceted. While God wants to develop a personal relationship with us through His son, Jesus Christ, we are also meant to worship Him as a community of believers. We were never meant to exist as islands in the interconnected world He created. We were meant to live in His Kingdom together.
Finally, to those of the Jewish faith who expressed discontent over programs supporting "Jews for Jesus", I must remind you that Christ Himself was a Jew, as were His followers in His day. I should also point out that Judaism has both religious and cultural aspects. Those Jews who have embraced Christ as their Savior, have not strayed from Judaism, in fact, they've held fast to it. They have maintained the cultural practices of the Jews while simply accepting that the wait for their Messiah is over -- and how thrilling it is to know that He has come, and is coming again!
In closing, I beseech you to consider that perhaps these missionaries are simply people who are on fire for the Lord and are doing what they have been called to do by spreading the Word. I'll admit, some are better than others in this quest, and certainly not all people who claim to be Christians have Biblically-sound interests at heart. But in general terms, the desire to share Jesus with the world is one that should be met with open ears and arms. God is love and peace and justice, He is all the things we are aching for in this world that feels so torn apart. Why not let Him in?
IF IF IF IF we can acknowledge that we are all seeking the same God, we will have laid a framework that will allow Christians to look differently at Muslims and vice versa, to say of each other, "The others may not be as advanced as we are, but they are on a journey." That allows us some breathing room and grace with one another. But there is ignorance, as well as vested interests, within Christianity and Islam that believes (or wishes us to believe) that the other guys don't even serve the same God. Well, what other God is there to serve?
Though I am a conservative, evangelical Christian (one of those aggressive Pentecostals!), I am somewhat amazed that the Christian Right seems to embrace everything Israel does, while Jews are much more antagonistic toward Jesus than are the Muslims. Of course, Jews aren't killing people for being Christians, but in terms of how they feel about Jesus Himself, there is a world of difference. Go figure. Seems we'd be closer friends with the Muslims than the Jews if it's about religion.
I look forward to the day when a Muslim and a Christian can have "doctrinal" debates that are about the true nature of the God that they both seek. That sort of discussion--dreaded by certain elements in both religions--will bring us closer together. Many Muslims will be won to Christianity, many Christians will moderate their views of Islam, and maybe, just maybe, brotherhood between the children of God (He is the Father of ALL, you know) can be restored to some degree.
In my estimation there is no place for this type of behavior in the military. Great damage is being done in the name of religion. Their proselytizing is dangerous and counterproductive to the safety of our country. Why are not top military officials on top of this? Forgive them - they know not what they do.
Jesus said Christianity can be defined in five words...... Love God, Love your neighbor. That seems simple enough.