Beck: The Census Is The Government’s Attempt To ‘Increase Slavery’
Beck: The Census Is The Government’s Attempt To ‘Increase Slavery’
The Census is a popular topic of right-wing conspiracy theories and Fox News host Glenn Beck spent a good portion of radio show today fear-mongering about it. Going through the form, he determined that the government doesn’t have the right to ask any of the questions — except for the first one asking how many people live in your home.
He took particular issue with a question asking for the respondent’s race. But after Beck’s co-host pointed out that the question has been part of the Census since the Founding Fathers’ time, Beck twisted the three-fifths law to claim that the Census is now breeding slavery:
BECK: Why were they asking the race question, you said when, in 1790? … Right, they want to know, do you count as three-fifths? Do you count at all? So, you have to know how many slaves did you have? People find that offensive today because the idea was, if we’re going to count, we want to know how many are here for services etc. etc. and slaves would get less. Well that’s not right. One. One. ‘I’m not three-fifths, I’m one. Whites are not worth than me.’ Now reverse it, why are they asking this question today?
CO-HOST: Because minorities are worth more than whites.
BECK: Exactly right. So you will get more dollars if you are a minority. So you are worth more as a monitory. Well there is no difference. The reason you don’t answer the race question is because one, everyone counts as one. All men are created equal. If you were offended back in 1790 about slavery and that everyone should count the same, do not answer the race question. How dare you. How dare you. At least in 1790, they were doing it to slow the South down on slavery. To try to stop it as much as they can. Today they are asking the race question to try to increase slavery. Your dependence on the master in Washington. No way, don’t answer that question.
Listen here:
Beck seems to be arguing that because a handful of federal programs provide funding to help minority communities, minorities are “worth more” than white people. Of course, the Census actually counts everyone equally, as the Constitution requires, so Beck’s complaints seem aimed more at civil rights programs than at the Census.
Moreover, there is a big “difference” between a law that counted people as less than human and a question that helps minority communities get needed aid. The Census’ race question is “critical” to enforcing civil rights policies and is used to “promote equal employment opportunities and to assess racial disparities in health and environmental risks.” So by urging his listeners to not complete this question, he’s potentially damaging these important efforts.
As ThinkProgress has previously noted, the three-fifths law was not an abolitionist provision designed to “slow the South down on slavery,” as Beck claims. Many of the Founders were from the South and owned slaves, and there were other pro-slavery clasuses in the Constitution that Beck’s revisionist history can’t explain.
So does Beck think the Census has a “deep seated hatred of white people or white culture”?
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i whole-heartedly support boo-hoo becky’s rally to get cancervatards not to participate in the census. that way, their districts can be consolodated and they can lose representation in congress.
like what would happen to batshit blacchman’s seat if her constituents followed her advice.
time for them to pay the piper for their asshattery
March 9th, 2010 at 6:44 pmSince Article 1, Section 2 reads:
“[An] Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.”
…one wonders where Beck gets his Constitutional scholarship concerning what is ALLOWED to be asked on the census… what do the words ‘in such Manner as they shall by Law direct’ mean, I wonder.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:46 pmSo does Beck think the Census has a “deep seated hatred of white people or white culture”?
I don’t know about that but I do think that BeckerHead has a deep-seated hatred of himself. Why else would he go on the radio and TV four hours a day to display his alcohol-fueled paranoid-schizophrenic ignorance?
March 9th, 2010 at 6:46 pmDid anyone see the Beck interview with Massa? It was delicious insanity. Massa refused to play the “who is corrupt” game with Beck and even critized Beck.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:47 pmBeck’s afraid to find out just how soon “white” people will become a minority.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:47 pmIf you were offended back in 1790 about slavery and that everyone should count the same, do not answer the race question.
Well, seeing as I wasn’t born until the 1960s, I dont’ think thsi instruction pertains to me. I wasn’t really offended back in 1790. Or at least, i don’t recall being offended.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:49 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
what do the words ‘in such Manner as they shall by Law direct’ mean, I wonder.
Smiles well i am betting in beckerheads world a whole lot of different s then what in reality it truly means.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:50 pm“Beck’s afraid to find out just how soon “white” people will become a minority.”
in that case, boo-hoo becky was born too late. white folks were a minority in this country since the importation of black slaves
March 9th, 2010 at 6:50 pmA new Facebook campaign is calling for the Census to include “American” as a race option, saying “when America QUITS asking people what their COLOR, RACE, Ethnicity is, then we will all become a stronger Group: Americans.”
Yeah, because you sure can’t tell by looking at people whether they’re of a different race…
March 9th, 2010 at 6:51 pmO/T,
March 9th, 2010 at 6:55 pmI heard something today about a pol in CA who voted against everything that had to do with gay rights.
I was told that he went on a radio show and said he is gay.
WTF? I wasnt able to keep up with current events in the last two days. Does anyone know who it is and what is going on with it now? Thanks.
I find Becky Boo-De-Hoo offensive.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:56 pmOh, for crying out…
If Glenn Beck wants us all to be one color, I can dig that. Heck, I pray for the day that race doesn’t become an issue when it comes to social equality.
But social equality doesn’t mean you take a paintbrush and paint everyone “American”. The goal of social equality should be for people to view their neighbors and fellow Americans as being equivalent in their uniqueness despite their differences in race, not to view them as being equivalent by rendering them without an identity.
The Census and its questions are necessary for defining a community. Please don’t ignore it, or else you are ignoring your fellow Americans.
March 9th, 2010 at 6:59 pmI wish Beck would just cancel his show on Fox and start ranting like the Time Cube guy on his youtube page. Beck is a f***ing idiot.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:00 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
( ) Asian
( ) Latino
( ) Black
( ) American
I know where sanctimonious white people check!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:05 pmsscncturn64 at 6:55 pm
O/T,
I heard something today about a pol in CA who voted against everything that had to do with gay rights.
I was told that he went on a radio show and said he is gay.
WTF? I wasnt able to keep up with current events in the last two days. Does anyone know who it is and what is going on with it now? Thanks.
Here is the gay GOP with the DUI
March 9th, 2010 at 7:09 pmI just recieved a notice in the mail that my census forms are on the way. Given Glen Beck’s warning, I am turning in my resignation letter at work and I’m fleeing the area from the evil pen and paper!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:13 pmWhy does he hate the Constitution?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:17 pmBeck is certifiably crazy. Increase Slavery?? Please, someone, institutionalize this total wacko before he causes someone else to be hurt or killed. Beck is a loony, dangerous, and an out-of-control liar. This is NOT free speech. It’s allowing an insane, hateful, deluded jerk to influence his audience to be the same.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:17 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
March 9th, 2010 at 7:18 pmI just recieved a notice in the mail that my census forms are on the way. Given Glen Beck’s warning, I am turning in my resignation letter at work and I’m fleeing the area from the evil pen and paper!
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Okay pen and paper are evil but is chalk okay? What about dry erase markers?
Fear and ignorance – that’s all Beck and the Conservatives have to offer.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:18 pmDear trolls, please do not fill out your census report! the eviliberalislamosocilisturncoaterroists will come and eat your children!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:18 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
“I just received a notice in the mail that my census forms are on the way.”
Write if you find work…
March 9th, 2010 at 7:19 pm;)
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Kendrick1986 says:
No chopsticks?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:21 pmDry erase markers are the weapons that will win this epic battle for freedom! We must all arm ourselves with the truth!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:22 pmBob, Johnsonville, now with 20% more johnsons! wurst says:
March 9th, 2010 at 7:22 pmDear trolls, please do not fill out your census report! the eviliberalislamosocilisturncoaterroists will come and eat your children!
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Is that before or after they run big gay ice cream trucks (filled with explosives) into churches?
Oh, Becky….why don’t you just STFU. Everybody knows you are a certified loon. You and Michelle Bachmann should share shackles together when the US Census Bureau makes slaves of you.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:22 pmThankyou House of Roberts.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:23 pmwhat happened to the avantgarde shoes?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:23 pmAmerica is suffering a severe shortage of chopsticks, Kendrick.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:24 pmSend 14 million pairs to Glenn Beck, C/O FoxNews
He’ll pay with his Master Card.
I just receieved a notice in the mail that my census forms are on the way
Me, too!! But, didn’t have to quit my job—got laid off January of ‘09. Hey, write if you find EXTRA work.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:25 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I hope Beck keeps up his ranting about the Census so his crazy followers vote themselves right out of a separate district and therefore eliminate the seats of their extremist Republican legislators. They can start with Michelle Bachmann and Mean Jean from Ohio.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:27 pmgalt says:
Why else would the government want to know the ethnicity of its constituents other than to discriminate between them?
Why hasn’t anyone else here even thought of this question?
Because we are not brain dead bigots like you are?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:27 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
galt says:
“Why else would the government want to know the ethnicity of its constituents other than to discriminate between them?
Why hasn’t anyone else here even thought of this question?”
We’re progressives, and tend not to think in terms of discriminating against anyone on the basis of race, creed, color, or religious beliefs.
You know, like the Constitution says…
So, sometimes we miss something.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:29 pmThanks for bringing it up.
We’ll check it out.
galt says:
March 9th, 2010 at 7:31 pm“Come on, I know there’s got to be one out there. Just give me one.”
You’ll have to make one up.
galt says:
Because we are not brain dead bigots like you are?
Yet you can’t think of a single reason that doesn’t involve discrimination? Come on, I know there’s got to be one out there. Just give me one.
You are too stupid to understand if one was given. F**k off troll.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:31 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
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Okay pen and paper are evil but is chalk okay? What about dry erase markers?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
They’re the antidotes of liberty!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:32 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
galt says:
You are too stupid to understand if one was given. F**k off troll.
Really intelligent comment. It contributes a lot to the conversation!
Yet I have contributed more to this conversation than you have. F**k off troll
March 9th, 2010 at 7:35 pmYeah… why else?
Couldn’t be that the nation has a history of institutional racism and it’s useful to monitor the relative advancement of various segments of society…
couldn’t be that social research depends on collecting good data of all kinds and the census is the most efficient means to do that…
couldn’t be that government services can be delivered more effectively when more information is known about the people who are served by the offices of government and developing problems are more quickly identified along with likely causes, some of which might have to do with race…
nope, none of those benign scenarios are the least bit possible. It simply HAS to be the one malignant suggestion, the product of an anti-government bias so deep that it determines ones screen name on a blog.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:35 pmI report abuse to TP concerning kendricks advertisments.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:36 pmTP doesnt seem to care.
So I have some products that I am selling and its free to advertise on TP so im going to start posting my ads tomorrow.
What do you think fellow TPer`s is that a good idea.
(Im being sarcastic moderators. not that you would notice anyway, WTF!!!)
galt says:
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Why else would the government want to know the ethnicity of its constituents other than to discriminate between them?
Why hasn’t anyone else here even thought of this question?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Wanting to know whom lives here is based solely on the idea to discriminate against them ?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:37 pmCan we please encourage all white supremacists to boycott the “racist” census? Should be able to pick up some more seats in more sane areas of the country.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:37 pmralph: couldn’t be that social research depends on collecting good data of all kinds and the census is the most efficient means to do that…
Most people fail to realize the value of data–and then there are the people that don’t like data because it fails to validate what they already “know.”
March 9th, 2010 at 7:37 pmglogrrl says:
Me, too!! But, didn’t have to quit my job—got laid off January of ‘09. Hey, write if you find EXTRA work.
Lousy parody act aside, I am sorry for the republican policies that cost you your job. Whatever the salary that comes with a job, a job is your identity and losing it sucks the life out of you. But you will recover and find work because job growth is simply better under democrats.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:38 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
gummitch — this space for rent says:
ralph: couldn’t be that social research depends on collecting good data of all kinds and the census is the most efficient means to do that…
Most people fail to realize the value of data–and then there are the people that don’t like data because it fails to validate what they already “know.”
You mean like whites are a majority in this country and will always remain so?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:38 pmI was talking to a friend of mine the other day who I’ve known for almost 30 years and he mentioned he listens to and believes most of what Beck and Hannity but not as much. My first thought was, ‘who the fukc are you and what have you done with my friend?’ Since then I send him Media Matters clips on Beck regularly.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:40 pmralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for the Llama Milk Council® says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Okay pen and paper are evil but is chalk okay? What about dry erase markers?
Dry erase markers are the weapons that will win this epic battle for freedom! We must all arm ourselves with the truth!
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Damn TP ate my post so I had to re-write everything:
Question: are we allowed to use any kind of office supply /weapon as long as it isn’t made of paper or looks like a pen?
I’d arm myself with the dry erase markers of truth and knowledge and a USB air soft gun.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:40 pmgalt says:
Couldn’t be that the nation has a history of institutional racism and it’s useful to monitor the relative advancement of various segments of society…
… By continuing to discriminate based on race?
couldn’t be that social research depends on collecting good data of all kinds and the census is the most efficient means to do that…
And how does race affect “good research?”
couldn’t be that government services can be delivered more effectively when more information is known about the people who are served by the offices of government and developing problems are more quickly identified along with likely causes, some of which might have to do with race…
This one’s blatant discrimination based on race. I think even you knew that.
I’m being serious here.
Bull Sh!t.
I could understand a question about “what nation were you born in,” as that would have an impact on integration. But just because I’m black does not mean I should receive any more or less federal aid than if I were white.
Because the data is used for more than just “federal aid”. Grow a brain, learn how to use Google, and maybe you might learn something.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:40 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
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Okay pen and paper are evil but is chalk okay? What about dry erase markers?
March 9th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
They’re the antidotes of liberty!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:41 pm–
YAY FREE-DUMB!
Lefty Liberal says:
You mean like whites are a majority in this country and will always remain so?
Or even a discussion earlier today about divorce rates in states that actively prohibit gay marriages.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:41 pmdo his followers not recognize bonkers when they see it…surely they aren’t ALL Bubbas
March 9th, 2010 at 7:42 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
galt, how about curiosity? Is that enough of a reason to ask someone’s racial identity?
Seriously, if we do either action–drop the race question or keep it–there will be people who will complain. After all, if we are to all be painted as “Americans” by dropping the race question, what counts as “American”?
Does it mean “white”? Does it mean “black”? European in origin?
If we don’t as about race, then self-identity will be lost in the individual and in the community. That may be good for racial tensions between communities, but it would ruin identity within the circle.
I think this isn’t a question of “Schrodinger’s Cat”– calling someone “American” or “African-American” or “Caucasian” doesn’t mean they can’t have more than one way to identify themselves.
I think that merely painting everyone one color is a form of discrimination itself by denying people a forum to label themselves.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:43 pm#
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
ralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for the Llama Milk Council® says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Okay pen and paper are evil but is chalk okay? What about dry erase markers?
Dry erase markers are the weapons that will win this epic battle for freedom! We must all arm ourselves with the truth!
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Damn TP ate my post so I had to re-write everything:
Question: are we allowed to use any kind of office supply /weapon as long as it isn’t made of paper or looks like a pen?
I’d arm myself with the dry erase markers of truth and knowledge and a USB air soft gun.
All right, I’ll break out my heavy artillery!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:44 pmPerhaps the census will better spread federal investment across the nation instead of continuing to allow the contractors in Northern Va. to hog up your tax dollars.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:45 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
galt says:
Lefty Liberal says:
Bull Sh!t.
I could understand a question about “what nation were you born in,” as that would have an impact on integration. But just because I’m black does not mean I should receive any more or less federal aid than if I were white.
Because the data is used for more than just “federal aid”. Grow a brain, learn how to use Google, and maybe you might learn something.
Ok, then WHY does the federal government need to know what ethnicity I am?
The information is used in many ways, medical research and migrations of people, both of which have a racial component.
Not everything is about discrimination.
Now would you just f**k off and go spread your conspiracy theories somewhere else? Adults are trying to have a conversation.
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March 9th, 2010 at 7:46 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Ralph@44,
March 9th, 2010 at 7:47 pmYour comment is intelligent, you cant expect racist trolls to be able to comprehend what you are saying.
Official response, from the Census Constituent FAQ:
March 9th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
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bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
YAY FREE-DUMB!
You and linzloo are the dumbies! You both have made emenies out of me!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:48 pmDid Becky check with Crazy Michelle Bachman? Apparently, she pulled one-eighty and is NOW embracing the Census. LOL! These whack-jobs should compare notes before they open their pie holes.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:49 pmBeck, like Liz, etc., will continue to ‘double down’ in their hate-filled-crazyness until even the people who got socially-promoted to high school figure out they are mean loons who care about no one but themselves.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:50 pmgalt says:
Lefty Liberal says:
galt says:
Lefty Liberal says:
Bull Sh!t.
I could understand a question about “what nation were you born in,” as that would have an impact on integration. But just because I’m black does not mean I should receive any more or less federal aid than if I were white.
Because the data is used for more than just “federal aid”. Grow a brain, learn how to use Google, and maybe you might learn something.
Ok, then WHY does the federal government need to know what ethnicity I am?
The information is used in many ways, medical research and migrations of people, both of which have a racial component.
Not everything is about discrimination.
Now would you just f**k off and go spread your conspiracy theories somewhere else? Adults are trying to have a conversation.
Yes, they are. Thanks for seeing your way out of my way.
And they don’t have time to deal with your 2nd grade questions. If you would bother to read, you would understand that there are reasons to ask about race. It is not about discrimination.
You only want to prevent the question from being asked because you know that in a few more decades whites will be in the minority, and THAT is what scares the crap out of you. You are the racist. F**k off.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:51 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
ralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for the Llama Milk Council® says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Okay pen and paper are evil but is chalk okay? What about dry erase markers?
Dry erase markers are the weapons that will win this epic battle for freedom! We must all arm ourselves with the truth!
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Damn TP ate my post so I had to re-write everything:
Question: are we allowed to use any kind of office supply /weapon as long as it isn’t made of paper or looks like a pen?
I’d arm myself with the dry erase markers of truth and knowledge and a USB air soft gun.
All right, I’ll break out my heavy artillery!
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Yes USB rocket turret! :D
Throw in a few of these and these.
I wonder if it would be possible to use the basement of an office building for trench warfare.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:51 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
You only want to prevent the question from being asked because you know that in a few more decades whites will be in the minority, and THAT is what scares the crap out of you. You are the racist. F**k off.
I’ll give you a few minutes to read back through my comments and make yourself feel like a moron.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:52 pmYeah, monitoring the advancement of a segment of society is the exact same thing as “discrimination based on race”.
Uh huh.
Um, if the research is examining elements of race — racial identity, family structure, community expectations, for instance — one would think that knowing the racial makeup of a society is critical to “good research”.
Perhaps you can’t envision such research?
Ah, I think I see the missed connection here. Yous eem to be using “discrimination” in its more value-neutral sense — that is, a simple act of noting the differences between one person and another. Most of us see the term “discrimination” in a racial context as denoting unfair treatment based on arbitrary criteria (skin color). Yous eem to be trying to apply it ion a more clinical sense here, and running afoul of understandable sensitivities to language.
Otherise, you’d be claiming that any effort to identify a problem that might have racial causes (for instance, the reluctance of a bank to approve home loans for otherwise credit-worthy African-Americans while extending credit to similarly situated clients of other races) could legitimately be classified as “dsicrimination”. The effort to correct teh problem, I mean — not the problem itself.
And that would be ludicrous.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:53 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
ralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for the Llama Milk Council® says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Okay pen and paper are evil but is chalk okay? What about dry erase markers?
Dry erase markers are the weapons that will win this epic battle for freedom! We must all arm ourselves with the truth!
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Damn TP ate my post so I had to re-write everything:
Question: are we allowed to use any kind of office supply /weapon as long as it isn’t made of paper or looks like a pen?
I’d arm myself with the dry erase markers of truth and knowledge and a USB air soft gun.
All right, I’ll break out my heavy artillery!
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Yes USB rocket turret! :D
Throw in a few of these and these.
I wonder if it would be possible to use the basement of an office building for trench warfare.
I like those!!
I thought that the IT departments of most companies constituted trench warfare? Back in the day before USB power, we used to have paper wad fights all the time! :)
March 9th, 2010 at 7:53 pmgalt says:
If our government is a government of Laws though, everyone should be treated equally regardless of race. To even consider race in law does promote inequality somehow, in someone’s favor for some service or another. How can you really promote equality while denying that same equality in your own legal system?
I agree that equality is needed. However, I don’t think that equality and inequality is only a government-regulated thing. Perhaps if inequality between races wasn’t something that was endorsed in the past there wouldn’t be a need to ask this question now.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:54 pmAs a bisexual person, I see a plot by TEH CENSUS BUREAU to take the data and then analyze it to see who is receptive to TEH GAY VIRUS…/snark
March 9th, 2010 at 7:55 pmA new Facebook campaign is calling for the Census to include “American” as a race option, saying “when America QUITS asking people what their COLOR, RACE, Ethnicity is, then we will all become a stronger Group: Americans.”
This group has a point, but it’s backwards.
If and when people in this country quit discriminating against others because of their color, race, and ethnicity, then it will no longer be necessary to ask the question — and we will all become a stronger group: Americans.
That is a distinct difference.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:55 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
YAY FREE-DUMB!
You and linzloo are the dumbies! You both have made emenies out of me!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:55 pm–
Care for a union worker made free-dumb muffin and a pipin’ hot cup of free-dumb coffee?
galt says:
You only want to prevent the question from being asked because you know that in a few more decades whites will be in the minority, and THAT is what scares the crap out of you. You are the racist. F**k off.
I’ll give you a few minutes to read back through my comments and make yourself feel like a moron.
Big deal, so you claim to be black. You are still a worthless troll. FOAD
March 9th, 2010 at 7:55 pmHoly shit. Beck actually came off as the sane one. He also got absolutely played by Massa. And came off looking like a huge schmuck for playing on someone else’s mental anguish for political points.
I’ve come to the conclusion, though, that Eric Massa is one disturbed individual. I agree with him on single-payer, on withdrawal from Afghanistan, on fair trade. But the dude is legitimately whacked out.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:55 pmayn rand: If our government is a government of Laws though, everyone should be treated equally regardless of race. To even consider race in law does promote inequality somehow, in someone’s favor for some service or another. How can you really promote equality while denying that same equality in your own legal system?
If we take this to its “logical” conclusion, we shouldn’t ask any questions at all. I mean, why do we ask about gender except to promote gender inequality?
And age? What’s up with that? This is clearly a precursor to death panels! Soon we will be snuffing out old people and the census is designed to target geezers for the storm troopers who will come in the night.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:57 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat)
Care for a union worker made free-dumb muffin and a pipin’ hot cup of free-dumb coffee?
I’m naturally suspicious of the your offering! u n i o n -made? Holy macaroli I’m afwaid!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:58 pmMassa is MSM’s newest distraction. Everyone knows he is crazier than a sh*t house rat. His story is absurd, and down-right nuts. Of course MSM will play this for days, EVEN though the whack-job resigned. Then it will be focused on the next missing white chick.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:59 pmGood grief…can the man get any more paranoid???
Seriously, though…if he refuses to participate in the Census and his listeners choose to do the same based on his recommendation, then on their own heads be it if their Congressional districts lose funding or are redrawn because they obstructed the Department’s efforts to obtain accurate data! After all, aren’t conservatives and Republicans the ones who are always talking about how important it is to take responsibility for one’s own choices and behavior? Well, this will provide them with the perfect opportunity to do exactly that. Let’s just see how well they do as a result of their voluntary decision to withhold pertinent information, shall we????
Oh, wait…what am I saying? Since when do most Republicans actually accept responsibility when the excrement hits the spinning blades and their own backsides are on the hot seat? The vast majority of them are every bit as quick as anyone else to complain, point fingers, pass the buck, deny all responsibility, and portray themselves as helpless victims whenever their own choices have negative consequences.
March 9th, 2010 at 7:59 pmThe America I Grew Up In ™ didn’t have this kind of Census!
March 9th, 2010 at 7:59 pmSo does Beck think the Census has a “deep seated hatred of white people or white culture”?
The key words are: So does Beck think. We all know that answer to that one.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:00 pmgummitch — this space for rent says:
f we take this to its “logical” conclusion, we shouldn’t ask any questions at all. I mean, why do we ask about gender except to promote gender inequality?
Since we provide social security for the elderly, I’d say it’s pretty important that we have our age demographic accurate.
And really, why ask the question about gender? Does it matter? Yeah, some areas have more males than females and vice versa. If we moved to Single Payer it’d be relevant; since we don’t have single payer it’s not.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:00 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
Holy macaroli I’m afwaid!
There there, darling. Where’s your binky? It’s time for a nap. It’s okay…I’ll leave the closet door unlocked.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:00 pmAnti-census slavery rhetoric is an attempt to scare black people so that democratic districts are underrepresented and GOP whities get their way. Shocker!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:00 pmgalt says:
When you right wing bigots stop discriminating against people, we can stop criticizing you for your racism and bigotry. Ok sport?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:02 pmpags2 says:
So does Beck think the Census has a “deep seated hatred of white people or white culture”?
The key words are: So does Beck think. We all know that answer to that one.
Actually I think he does think, he thinks about where in his histrionics he should start crying.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:02 pmLefty Liberal says:
I like those!!
I thought that the IT departments of most companies constituted trench warfare? Back in the day before USB power, we used to have paper wad fights all the time! :)
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I’ve never worked at a place that didn’t have USB capabilities.
Have you ever used Nerf guns? Or rulers with a rubber band ball wrapped in duct-tape and used as a crappy maces. That’s when you know you’re bored at work.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:02 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
galt says:
And really, why ask the question about gender?
GOP discrimination against women? Especially poor women? That’s a start dontcha think d**chebag?…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:03 pmZooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:
A new Facebook campaign is calling for the Census to include “American” as a race option, saying “when America QUITS asking people what their COLOR, RACE, Ethnicity is, then we will all become a stronger Group: Americans.”
This group has a point, but it’s backwards.
If and when people in this country quit discriminating against others because of their color, race, and ethnicity, then it will no longer be necessary to ask the question — and we will all become a stronger group: Americans.
That is a distinct difference.
Scroll through the profile photos on the FB page and you may notice a certain theme. In my own experience, the people who tell you that race doesn’t matter, or doesn’t exist tend to be melanin-deficient. Whenever I hear someone claim that they “don’t see black people or white people” I pull on the hip waders before the b.s. gets too deep.
And, frequently, these are the first people to start screaming “racism” — if the object of their attention is Black.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:04 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat)
Care for a union worker made free-dumb muffin and a pipin’ hot cup of free-dumb coffee?
I’m naturally suspicious of the your offering! u n i o n -made? Holy macaroli I’m afwaid!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:05 pm–
Don’t worry…the union baker is happier now that he receives better wages and benefits so he probably won’t poison your muffin.
Kenneth says:
Sounds like your friend has common sense and a real brain.
That’s what all retard republicans claim to have, when they’re too stupid to have ‘real’ sense known as “IQ”. Does it make you inbreds feel better about yourself to be delusional and believe the smart people are stupid and you retards are the “real” smart ones? LOL! Your delusion is hysterical!
Kenneth says:
Probably not indoctrinated or programmed either.
Ironic projection from someone that idolizes Beck! LOL!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:05 pmjust the bleepn facts says:
galt says:
And really, why ask the question about gender?
GOP discrimination against women? Especially poor women? That’s a start dontcha think d**chebag?…
WTF are you even talking about now?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:06 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
I like those!!
I thought that the IT departments of most companies constituted trench warfare? Back in the day before USB power, we used to have paper wad fights all the time! :)
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I’ve never worked at a place that didn’t have USB capabilities.
Have you ever used Nerf guns? Or rulers with a rubber band ball wrapped in duct-tape and used as a crappy maces. That’s when you know you’re bored at work.
You young whippersnappers don’t know what it was like in the “olden days”! Why, we had to load network drivers in “extended memory” to save that 640K of memory for the programs. And you could only run one program at a time! And each program had it’s own set of printer drivers, and if the printer you wanted to use wasn’t one of the supported models, you were just out of luck! Ahhh, the days!
We had so many difficulties getting everything to work and stay working we didn’t have TIME to be bored! ;)
(Actually we would make weapons out of just about anything. I set up a printer one time to shoot paper wads across the computer room. My boss wasn’t amused, especially since he was my target)
March 9th, 2010 at 8:08 pm#5 noseeum, et al… says:
Beck’s afraid to find out just how soon “white” people will become a minority.
My thoughts exactly. What other reason would upset these goons to this level of insanity?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:09 pmconservative guy says:
The only question on the census I will answer is the fact that 2 people live in my house. Anything else is not the governments business.
They don’t even need to know that. They are just trying to figure out how many people they will need to send to your house to haul you off to a reeducation camp. Don’t fill it out at all!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:09 pmgummitch — this space for rent says:
Scroll through the profile photos on the FB page and you may notice a certain theme.
I see what you mean. Yeesh…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:09 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat)
Care for a union worker made free-dumb muffin and a pipin’ hot cup of free-dumb coffee?
I’m naturally suspicious of the your offering! u n i o n -made? Holy macaroli I’m afwaid!
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Don’t worry…the union baker is happier now that he receives better wages and benefits so he probably won’t poison your muffin.
Key word here is “probably”. You are against unions after all ;)
March 9th, 2010 at 8:10 pmconservative guy says:
But oddly enough, when it comes to two men, or two women wanting to live together, it does become conservatives’ business…
A little… ah… inconsistent there, huh?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:11 pmconservative guy says:
The only question on the census I will answer is the fact that 2 people live in my house. Anything else is not the governments business.
Looks like the census will only be counting liberals and progressives. Sweet!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:11 pmWhat is with these stereotypes by the right. Do they think there aren’t any white women out there who are baby making machines and live on welfare?
There are a lot of Mexican families in my community and the ones I’ve talked to are decent, respectful people. I see some of these Mexican working at fast food restaurants which shows they aren’t lazy and don’t let their pride stop them from working at places many white women would never work at.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:12 pm…I see some of these Mexican women working at…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:13 pmconservative guy says:
The only question on the census I will answer is the fact that 2 people live in my house. Anything else is not the governments business.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:16 pm——————————————————-
Um CG, I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think blowup dolls count as people.
Lefty Liberal says:
You young whippersnappers don’t know what it was like in the “olden days”! Why, we had to load network drivers in “extended memory” to save that 640K of memory for the programs. And you could only run one program at a time! And each program had it’s own set of printer drivers, and if the printer you wanted to use wasn’t one of the supported models, you were just out of luck! Ahhh, the days!
We had so many difficulties getting everything to work and stay working we didn’t have TIME to be bored! ;)
(Actually we would make weapons out of just about anything. I set up a printer one time to shoot paper wads across the computer room. My boss wasn’t amused, especially since he was my target)
March 9th, 2010 at 8:19 pm–
The shooting printer thing beats my crappy duct tape maces any day! How did you get the printer to do that? Did you mess with with printer feeder?
Insidious Prophet says:
Shorter CG: They do too! They do too!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:20 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat)
Care for a union worker made free-dumb muffin and a pipin’ hot cup of free-dumb coffee?
I’m naturally suspicious of the your offering! u n i o n -made? Holy macaroli I’m afwaid!
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Don’t worry…the union baker is happier now that he receives better wages and benefits so he probably won’t poison your muffin.
Key word here is “probably”. You are against unions after all ;)
March 9th, 2010 at 8:22 pm–
If that’s the case the Republicans should not take muffins from any group that they hate or threaten openly.
Beck is a perfect asshat
March 9th, 2010 at 8:23 pmconservative guy says:
The only question on the census I will answer is the fact that 2 people live in my house. Anything else is not the governments business.
Sounds like CG would be more comfortable living somewhere without any government at all, since the completely benign questions on the census terrify him.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:24 pmWhy do wingnuts extrapolate from asking a question about race to automatically treating people different because of race?
I mean, I know thye have a low view of government and have a difficult time conceiving of any noble purpose for it other than war, but seriously… is it a lack of imagination, or just a certain kind of imagination?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pmHow crazy are the religious right getting? I was flipping through the channels earlier and came across this evangelist channel called Daystar.
They had the very typical chubby old white preacher in a $1000.00 suit. This preachers name was Ron Phillips and I’m not sure what message he was preaching but I’m guessing he was attacking Liberals.
I listened to him say the following as he waddled around the stage, before I turned the channel:
“They can have the peace corp, I’ll take the marine corp.”
And…
“You can have your hybrid cars, I’ll buy me another gas guzzling truck and mount a gun rack on the back window”
These people are absolutely nuts and present a dangerous to the rest of this country.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pmZooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
Holy macaroli I’m afwaid!
There there, darling. Where’s your binky? It’s time for a nap. It’s okay…I’ll leave the closet door unlocked.
Aw, thanks! They call you Mother Superior for a reason!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:26 pm…danger…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:27 pmGlenn Beck will be shown to be a meth addict. There is no doubt in my mind that he tweeks.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:27 pmRab says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:28 pmBeck is a perfect asshat
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Beck is pretty much the definition of the word asshat. The only people dumber and more batshit insane than Beck are the idiots that listen to his show and spout his BS.
I just hope Michele Bachmanns followers here in Minnesota agree with Beck and don’t fill out their US Census.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:29 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
VDT is back….whahhhhhhhhh!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:31 pmgummitch — this space for rent says:
conservative guy says:
The only question on the census I will answer is the fact that 2 people live in my house. Anything else is not the governments business.
I recommend this wholeheartedly! Maybe your deep-red district will be consolidated into a blue district!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:31 pmgalt,
You have to admit, Beck is pumping a theme, and that theme is revolting. Why was the conservative so compliant with the Bush Administration but ready for an armed revolt with the Obama Administration? Do you really think the census is worded that differently?
No administration can change the course of a government in one year. If you can answer the question honestly, Beck’s diatribe is disturbing for any public figure.
Why don’t we just hand out the guns and tear the country apart?
Time for Armageddon.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:32 pmWell, if you’re gonna get picky about it…
I’m a Mexican. I was born in Mexico. Mexico is in the American continent. Therefore, since I’m not Asian, European, African, Asian, Australian, or Antartican for that matter, I must be an American, right?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pmLuis Chapulin M says:
Well, if you’re gonna get picky about it…
I’m a Mexican. I was born in Mexico. Mexico is in the American continent. Therefore, since I’m not Asian, European, African, Asian, Australian, or Antartican for that matter, I must be an American, right?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm————————————————————-
Stop it Luis, your logic will just confuse these racist, bigoted, right wing simpletons.
Um, yes, you are.
And given your anti-government bias, the only possible reason is a negative one.
But those of us who don’t have knee-jerk reactions against anything the government proposes see other possibilities that you don’t admit.
Oh really? Do you mean the FAQ located here?
The one that says:
“Race is key to implementing any number of federal laws and is a critical factor in the basic research behind numerous policies”?
Funny, I didn’t see that “to treat people differently based on ethnicity” anywhere on that page. Guess you have to read between the lines. I suspect you are skilled at that.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:39 pmgalt,
March 9th, 2010 at 8:39 pmI know a perfect place for the modern conservative. The country has all the fear an anarchy you wingnuts crave. Take your bicycle and peddle to Somalia!
Was this that big of a debate when Bush 41 was President back in 1990? Or even when Clinton was in charge in 2000?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:40 pmInsidious Prophet says:
March 9th, 2010 at 8:40 pmI just hope Michele Bachmanns followers here in Minnesota agree with Beck and don’t fill out their US Census.
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Tea-baggers: “The government is here for our guns! I saw a black helicopter with the Spetsnaz logo on the side this morning! I’ve seen what those commies can do!”
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
The shooting printer thing beats my crappy duct tape maces any day! How did you get the printer to do that? Did you mess with with printer feeder?
It was a large line printer used to print large reports in the data center. It had a bar that would rotate fast to move the paper to the top of the next page. I just had some paper wads that would sit on it and when the lid was open, it would sling the paper wad across the room.
Like I said, ahhh the old days…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:42 pmLefty Liberal: Key word here is “probably”. You are against unions after all ;)–
bizarrobrain: Don’t worry…the union baker is happier now that he receives better wages and benefits so he probably won’t poison your muffin.
Indeed I have an intense hatred for unions. They promote the warfare of defending themselves and the economic vitality of their communities. Management, however, promotes sweet & kind practices such as wrongful terminations, discrimination in various forms, stupid decisions to close factories, etc., unsafe working conditions and retaliation. The Freedom ™ to make a workday as complicated as possible is what our founders intended. You can find this intent burrowed deep in their 200+-year-old excrement, to be uncovered by a liberal archeologist.
Freedom ™ also allows me to reject any rational argument you have in support of unions, in favor of preserving my precast mentality against them. Why, we had no unions in the 50s. duur!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:43 pmgalt says:
ralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for the Llama Milk Council® says:
Why do wingnuts extrapolate from asking a question about race to automatically treating people different because of race?
I’m not a wingnut, but I know there’s a reason for the question, or the question wouldn’t be asked. In their own faq they admit it’s to treat people differently based on ethnicity, and that’s the reason for the question.
Yes, you are. You are a scared little troll that sees conspiracies under your bed. If you are that frightened, then why don’t you just not return the census form and that way your voice in government will not be heard as loud. That would help everyone.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:44 pmIf “galt” doesn’t like that the census asks his ethnicity, then maybe he shouldn’t answer that question.
Just a thought.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:45 pmI’m here to promote the republican viewpoint, with a republican flavor, in a republican time zone, wearing a republican cloth! Don’t tread on me! Pweese!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:47 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
patrick5 is getting increasingly unstable. I ask again. What type of grown man behaves like this….
March 9th, 2010 at 8:50 pmIt will be great, we’ll know anybody who doesn’t answer the race question is a Beck follower and we’ll be able to pick them up and take them to the FEMA camps. They’d be safer to not answer at all.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:51 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
I’m here to promote the republican viewpoint, with a republican flavor, in a republican time zone, wearing a republican cloth! Don’t tread on me! Pweese!
Like these
March 9th, 2010 at 8:51 pmI have a difficult time believing that Thomas Jefferson would confuse “it’s” and “its”…
March 9th, 2010 at 8:51 pmpatrick5 says:
I am a sovereign citizen. My home is an embassy. I have diplomatic immunity.
**snort**
Don’t forget to print your own money.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pmpatrick5, I applaud your integrity and initiative. I think you should hold fast to the ideals you profess here tonight, no matter what happens to you.
God speed.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pmpatrick5 says:
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I am a sovereign citizen.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
I don’t recall many American Indians named “patrick” , jackass …….
March 9th, 2010 at 8:53 pmBreaking News: Another right wing extremist (Teabagger?) strikes.
From Northfield, Minnesota: A man burned down his house today than drove his vehicle to the Northfield City Hall building where he than dosed his vehicle in gasoline and set it on fire.
A Northfield policeman caught the man as he was running through the City Hall parking lot with his pants on fire.
The reason the guy gave the Northfield police….”I’m mad at the government.”
The City Hall building suffered little damage but two other vehicles were destroyed in the City Hall parking lot.
Five words to this big ass dummy: drop, tuck and roll dude!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:54 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Zooey @ 137,
My thought too. He still has the freedom to not answer.
Oh that’s right, Obama took that freedom away from galt but rest assured, Beck will protect galt’s freedoms!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:55 pmBeck, what a patroit, a true American.
I think patrick5 was gang raped by some fellow oath keepers so lets take it easy on him tonight, okay?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:56 pmPatrick’s cheap attempt at statesmanship: “When the government ceases to fear it’s own citizens it will arrest and enslave them.”
- Thomas Jefferson
Of course we republicans would say the government responding to the needs of and great disparities within the citizenry is to “arrest and enslave them.”
March 9th, 2010 at 8:57 pmpatrick5 says:
“When the government ceases to fear it’s own citizens it will arrest and enslave them.”
- Thomas Jefferson
You’re going to have to provide a link to that quote, dippy. It’s not coming up on any Google search. We’ll wait.
March 9th, 2010 at 8:57 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
The shooting printer thing beats my crappy duct tape maces any day! How did you get the printer to do that? Did you mess with with printer feeder?
It was a large line printer used to print large reports in the data center. It had a bar that would rotate fast to move the paper to the top of the next page. I just had some paper wads that would sit on it and when the lid was open, it would sling the paper wad across the room.
Like I said, ahhh the old days…
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:D
I wish we could do that…everything is either Power Point presintations or laser printers. Sounds like you had much better office battles. Ours usually just end up as an IT guy version of urban guerrilla warfare. Oh well…there’s always paintball.
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
Lefty Liberal: Key word here is “probably”. You are against unions after all ;)–
bizarrobrain: Don’t worry…the union baker is happier now that he receives better wages and benefits so he probably won’t poison your muffin.
Indeed I have an intense hatred for unions. They promote the warfare of defending themselves and the economic vitality of their communities. Management, however, promotes sweet & kind practices such as wrongful terminations, discrimination in various forms, stupid decisions to close factories, etc., unsafe working conditions and retaliation. The Freedom ™ to make a workday as complicated as possible is what our founders intended. You can find this intent burrowed deep in their 200+-year-old excrement, to be uncovered by a liberal archeologist.
Freedom ™ also allows me to reject any rational argument you have in support of unions, in favor of preserving my precast mentality against them. Why, we had no unions in the 50s. duur!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:58 pm–
And damn that liberal/secularist/gay media for spreading the truth about the benefits of unions!
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patrick5 says:
I am a sovereign citizen. My home is an embassy. I have diplomatic immunity. The census is a roll call for the arrest and enslavement of conservative citizens. I will not participate.
“When the government ceases to fear it’s own citizens it will arrest and enslave them.”
- Thomas Jefferson
I have tried to find this quote from Thomas Jefferson. I’m assuming since it is being used by a f**ked up troll, that it is bogus.
I think this is the quote you are looking for:
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Now tell us pattycakes, do you understand what Thomas Jefferson was talking about?
March 9th, 2010 at 8:58 pmInsidious Prophet says:
A Northfield policeman caught the man as he was running through the City Hall parking lot with his pants on fire.
What is it with these weirdos setting their junk on fire?
*eyes rolling*
March 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pmpatrick5 says:
I am a sovereign citizen. My home is an embassy. I have diplomatic immunity.
Sorry, Dumfukistan hasn’t presented the properly arranged agrément for your stay in the USA as a head of a mission, so therefore you’re an illegal immigrant and your embassy is not recognized. Thank you for playing!
March 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pmLefty Liberal says:
Like these
OMG! I swear that isn’t the republican cloth! I swear!! (They were available in a secret warehouse only! At least that’s what they told me!)
March 9th, 2010 at 9:00 pmI thought Becky wrote about Thomas Paine’s Common Sense……I guess Becky doesn’t really do much fact checking when it comes to the Constitution either.Lies,deceit and misinformation are what the Reich does best.The fact that they completely direct you fools on the Reich is irrelevant isn’t?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:00 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
I wish we could do that…everything is either Power Point presintations or laser printers. Sounds like you had much better office battles. Ours usually just end up as an IT guy version of urban guerrilla warfare. Oh well…there’s always paintball.
Yeah, you haven’t experienced fun until your knit tie (hey, it was the 80’s) gets caught in a line printer and it unravels in a large pile of thread at your feet…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
Lefty Liberal says:
Like these
OMG! I swear that isn’t the republican cloth! I swear!! (They were available in a secret warehouse only! At least that’s what they told me!)
ROFLMAO!!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pmpatrick5 @ 139
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I am a sovereign citizen. My home is an embassy. I have diplomatic immunity. The census is a roll call for the arrest and enslavement of conservative citizens. I will not participate.
“When the government ceases to fear it’s own citizens it will arrest and enslave them.”
- Thomas Jefferson
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
patrick5,
Suggest you watch a few episodes of Sponge Bob Square Paints.
This Patrick makes much more sense than you do!
“Anyone who spews this crap is an idiot!”
March 9th, 2010 at 9:03 pmflight
christopher wiwi says:
I thought Becky wrote about Thomas Paine’s Common Sense……I guess Becky doesn’t really do much fact checking when it comes to the Constitution either.Lies,deceit and misinformation are what the Reich does best.The fact that they completely direct you fools on the Reich is irrelevant isn’t?
Glenda Becky? Fact checking? Why would she..er he do any fact checking? If Glenda did that, it would completely destroy the message.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:04 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
I wish we could do that…everything is either Power Point presintations or laser printers. Sounds like you had much better office battles. Ours usually just end up as an IT guy version of urban guerrilla warfare. Oh well…there’s always paintball.
Yeah, you haven’t experienced fun until your knit tie (hey, it was the 80’s) gets caught in a line printer and it unravels in a large pile of thread at your feet…
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Haha. No I’ve never had that happen.
I’ll admit I’d laugh (as long as it wasn’t a really nice tie) afterwards if it ever did.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pmLefty,Just the lack of respect the Reich shows these people makes me want to vomit and yet they take it in the backside and get nothing for it,while we progressives at least trying to health care,jobs, funding for college, funding for roads and trying to get some regulations on Wall St and they don’t seem to want any of it unless Becky, Flush and the rest say it’s OK,I really don’t get it and I am 50 years old and a progressive thru and thru.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
I wish we could do that…everything is either Power Point presintations or laser printers. Sounds like you had much better office battles. Ours usually just end up as an IT guy version of urban guerrilla warfare. Oh well…there’s always paintball.
Yeah, you haven’t experienced fun until your knit tie (hey, it was the 80’s) gets caught in a line printer and it unravels in a large pile of thread at your feet…
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Haha. No I’ve never had that happen.
I’ll admit I’d laugh (as long as it wasn’t a really nice tie) afterwards if it ever did.
Not only did I have a good laugh, so did everyone else in the department. Fortunately, it was a small IT shop. It taught me to tuck the tie into my shirt before I loaded paper in that printer again.
My effort to ditch the ties completely was not well received though. It was the conservative Midwest. Years later, I was able to ditch the tie when I worked in California. Now there is a “no tie” clause in my standard contract. I only own one tie (silk, not knit), and that is reserved for weddings and funerals .
March 9th, 2010 at 9:14 pmMoving on from that pretty pink embarrassment …
WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE (and don’t bother to show the real one!)
???
March 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pmchristopher wiwi says:
Lefty,Just the lack of respect the Reich shows these people makes me want to vomit and yet they take it in the backside and get nothing for it,while we progressives at least trying to health care,jobs, funding for college, funding for roads and trying to get some regulations on Wall St and they don’t seem to want any of it unless Becky, Flush and the rest say it’s OK,I really don’t get it and I am 50 years old and a progressive thru and thru.
And that is why you don’t get it. Conservatives are more interested in who is having sex with who, and “Freedom”. They don’t have the mental capacity to understand how things affect them.
Remember the phrase “simple things for simple minds” and you will start to understand them. Progressive ideas cannot be put into a five second sound bite, but conservative ideas can.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:18 pmBeck knows that if his predominantly white audience obeys him and leaves their “race” question blank on the census, it will skew the results against minorities….because they’re loaded with all that federal cash…
Beck is basically asking his followers to leave their race question open with the goal of skewing the census results, ultimately stacking the card against minorities in regards to the appropriation of gov’t funding.
Wow…that’s super-racist, and I’m pretty sure I haven’t taken it out of context either. He’s been taking some extremely low blows lately and he’s gonna really tip somebody over the breaking point…it’s hard to even laugh at him anymore, as he’s really inciting a lot of violence.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
This November I will reach a decision. A decision for a new republican beginning. This decision will hinge greatly on how many teabaggers set their nads on fire.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:21 pmThe stupidity of the fundie “pro-life” crowd is a funny thing…these people who would fight to the death to save the brain dead and the unborn while not giving a damn about or even praying for direct or indirect harm of born humans.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:23 pmpatrick5 says:
I am a sovereign citizen. My home is an embassy. I have diplomatic immunity. The census is a roll call for the arrest and enslavement of conservative citizens. I will not participate.
Perfect, by all means don’t participate in the census. Please convince all your friends to not participate in the census. Urge the voters of bachman’s district in MN and the kings twins (iowa nd NY) to not partake in the census. Please convince the states of Alaska Arizona texas and every other rightwing welfare state to not participate in the census.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:23 pmOur founding fathers would have shot these right wing traitors for sedition among other things.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:23 pmSlappy, you’re right, it’s all a musocialimist plot to take control of your flush toilets. don’t make it easy on them, don’t take the census. Spread the word. don’t take the census.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:25 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
The stupidity of the fundie “pro-life” crowd is a funny thing…these people who would fight to the death to save the brain dead and the unborn while not giving a damn about or even praying for direct or indirect harm of born humans.
You mean the pro-death pro-lifers?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:25 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
This November I will reach a decision. A decision for a new republican beginning. This decision will hinge greatly on how many teabaggers set their nads on fire.
You know it’s gonna happen…eventually…they are really that stupid
March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pmSlappyBastinado says:
OMG!……….I just received a letter from the census bureau stating I would be receiving a letter from the census bureau.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pm—————————————————-
Are you sure it wasn’t one of those RNC propaganda forms that look just like a US Census form?
Apparently, the only thing the government can do well is trap slow-footed conservatives.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pmSlappyturd spews: Whatchagonnadoyaddayadda?
Three words.
Mossberg..your face.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pmOMG!……….I just received a letter from the census bureau stating I would be receiving a letter from the census bureau.
HOW MUCH MORE STUPID COULD BARRY AND THE NAKED INTIMIDATOR, “RAHM SCHLONG THE EMANUEL” BE?
Holy Sh*t! I recieved the same notification for the American Community Survey in mid-2008. Obama was president then! Notify your local Fox affiliate! Stop the Presses! Press the Stoppers! We’re all going to hell! AHHHH!
AHHHHHH!
(hiccup)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
HALP!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:27 pmTRolls, spread the word: go to redstate, townhall etc and spread the word. ONE letter if by sea, and TWO letters if by mail. The CENSUS is coming! Don’t fall for it, save your conservative friends! don’t let them take the census either.
What you should do is drive around your neighbohood following the mailman and you should remove the census forms from your neighbors’ mailboxes for their own good!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pmIncredible. Beck is usually out whining about how much he loves the Constitution and how he’s a defender of it.
Well, here’s what the Constitution says Beck.
“Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State”
Now the original requirement came from Article 1, Section 2, however it was based on the current practice of slavery and was then changed in the 14th Amendment, to read as above.
So if Beck wanted to argue that sampling was wrong, then Constitutionally speaking he’d have an argument.
But arguing that the Census is wrong? Beck is working against the Constitution and against the US Government in an apparent attempt to negate the governments authority to do anything.
At least the governments authority to do anything under a black, democratic President.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pmtosses a life guard ring to wtgrm.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pmAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
OMG!……….I just received a letter from the census bureau stating I would be receiving a letter from the census bureau.
HOW MUCH MORE STUPID COULD BARRY AND THE NAKED INTIMIDATOR, “RAHM SCHLONG THE EMANUEL” BE?
Holy Sh*t! I recieved the same notification for the American Community Survey in mid-2008. Obama was president then! Notify your local Fox affiliate! Stop the Presses! Press the Stoppers! We’re all going to hell! AHHHH!
AHHHHHH!
(hiccup)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
HALP!
Remember to swallow…oops, I promised I wouldn’t do any more of these reminders…my bad… :D
March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pmIT”S NOT TEH GAY THIS TIME!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
IT’S THE FOLKS WHO CREATED TEH GAY — TEH GOVERNMENT!
WHAT ADVICE CAN YOU GIVE ME LEFTY LIBERAL SO I CAN STOP GOING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:33 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
I wish we could do that…everything is either Power Point presintations or laser printers. Sounds like you had much better office battles. Ours usually just end up as an IT guy version of urban guerrilla warfare. Oh well…there’s always paintball.
Yeah, you haven’t experienced fun until your knit tie (hey, it was the 80’s) gets caught in a line printer and it unravels in a large pile of thread at your feet…
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Haha. No I’ve never had that happen.
I’ll admit I’d laugh (as long as it wasn’t a really nice tie) afterwards if it ever did.
Not only did I have a good laugh, so did everyone else in the department. Fortunately, it was a small IT shop. It taught me to tuck the tie into my shirt before I loaded paper in that printer again.
My effort to ditch the ties completely was not well received though. It was the conservative Midwest. Years later, I was able to ditch the tie when I worked in California. Now there is a “no tie” clause in my standard contract. I only own one tie (silk, not knit), and that is reserved for weddings and funerals .
–
Well at least you made yourself and everyone in your department laugh. :D
So office attire in more conservative areas is more…conservative?
In most of the places where I’ve worked ties have been optional but they are preferred office attire. I’ve seen a lot of joke ties but I only own four ties and they are just normal black business ties.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:35 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
IT”S NOT TEH GAY THIS TIME!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
IT’S THE FOLKS WHO CREATED TEH GAY — TEH GOVERNMENT!
WHAT ADVICE CAN YOU GIVE ME LEFTY LIBERAL SO I CAN STOP GOING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Well maybe you should stop going to the doctor because with health reform, the doctor must be making you go AHHHHHHH
March 9th, 2010 at 9:36 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
The stupidity of the fundie “pro-life” crowd is a funny thing…these people who would fight to the death to save the brain dead and the unborn while not giving a damn about or even praying for direct or indirect harm of born humans.
You mean the pro-death pro-lifers?
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Yup.
“If you’re so pro-life, do me a favour: don’t lock arms and block medical clinics. If you’re so pro-life, lock arms and block cemeteries.-”Bill Hicks
March 9th, 2010 at 9:37 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
I wish we could do that…everything is either Power Point presintations or laser printers. Sounds like you had much better office battles. Ours usually just end up as an IT guy version of urban guerrilla warfare. Oh well…there’s always paintball.
Yeah, you haven’t experienced fun until your knit tie (hey, it was the 80’s) gets caught in a line printer and it unravels in a large pile of thread at your feet…
–
Haha. No I’ve never had that happen.
I’ll admit I’d laugh (as long as it wasn’t a really nice tie) afterwards if it ever did.
Not only did I have a good laugh, so did everyone else in the department. Fortunately, it was a small IT shop. It taught me to tuck the tie into my shirt before I loaded paper in that printer again.
My effort to ditch the ties completely was not well received though. It was the conservative Midwest. Years later, I was able to ditch the tie when I worked in California. Now there is a “no tie” clause in my standard contract. I only own one tie (silk, not knit), and that is reserved for weddings and funerals .
–
Well at least you made yourself and everyone in your department laugh. :D
So office attire in more conservative areas is more…conservative?
In most of the places where I’ve worked ties have been optional but they are preferred office attire. I’ve seen a lot of joke ties but I only own four ties and they are just normal black business ties.
When I get a new client, there is a clause in my contract that specifies that I will wear “business casual attire”. Polo shirts and khakis are the most common, though in the winter I will wear a sweater.
I have always viewed ties as a corporate noose.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:38 pmCO-HOST: Because minorities are worth more than whites.
BECK: Exactly right. So you will get more dollars if you are a minority.
Once again Becky’s moronic bigotry gets him a big sloppy KKKiss from the reactionary reichwing.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
IT’S THE FOLKS WHO CREATED TEH GAY — TEH GOVERNMENT!
WHAT ADVICE CAN YOU GIVE ME LEFTY LIBERAL SO I CAN STOP GOING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Somebody stop him before he sets his pants on fire.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pmPatheticPatrick
Your home is not an embassy. What you are is an ignorant brainwashed moron and a punkass troll far too stupid for anyone to take seriously
March 9th, 2010 at 9:40 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
“If you’re so pro-life, do me a favour: don’t lock arms and block medical clinics. If you’re so pro-life, lock arms and block cemeteries.-”Bill Hicks
Isn’t that what Fred Phelps does?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:40 pmSlappyBastinado @ 169,
March 9th, 2010 at 9:41 pmI am confident Beck would be proud of you.
Your a credit for your cause!
This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
SlappyBeggerino
Just STFU. No one here will give you any pity. You are not funny. You are stupid. You are pathetic. You are a punkass troll and you will NEVER be clever. No one is every going to think you are funny or clever. We all know you are stupid and pitiful. Go FCUK yourself there will NEVER be any pity here for you
March 9th, 2010 at 9:43 pmEugene Debs @ 193,
Think of sponge bob.
I think patric and slappy should catch the next bus to Somolia, home of the free and brave.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:44 pmBehold… the Oath Keeper!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:44 pmpatrick5 says:
Eugene, you are not welcome in my embassy.
funny thing, you’re not welcome here
March 9th, 2010 at 9:45 pmPatheticPatrick
You are not welcome on planet Earth. You disgust all decent human beings and are nothing but a pathetic punkass troll. Go FCUK yourself
March 9th, 2010 at 9:45 pmpatrick5 says:
Yer a lucky man, Eugene…
Dog sheds his fur on thee…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:46 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
I wish we could do that…everything is either Power Point presintations or laser printers. Sounds like you had much better office battles. Ours usually just end up as an IT guy version of urban guerrilla warfare. Oh well…there’s always paintball.
Yeah, you haven’t experienced fun until your knit tie (hey, it was the 80’s) gets caught in a line printer and it unravels in a large pile of thread at your feet…
–
Haha. No I’ve never had that happen.
I’ll admit I’d laugh (as long as it wasn’t a really nice tie) afterwards if it ever did.
Not only did I have a good laugh, so did everyone else in the department. Fortunately, it was a small IT shop. It taught me to tuck the tie into my shirt before I loaded paper in that printer again.
My effort to ditch the ties completely was not well received though. It was the conservative Midwest. Years later, I was able to ditch the tie when I worked in California. Now there is a “no tie” clause in my standard contract. I only own one tie (silk, not knit), and that is reserved for weddings and funerals .
–
Well at least you made yourself and everyone in your department laugh. :D
So office attire in more conservative areas is more…conservative?
In most of the places where I’ve worked ties have been optional but they are preferred office attire. I’ve seen a lot of joke ties but I only own four ties and they are just normal black business ties.
When I get a new client, there is a clause in my contract that specifies that I will wear “business casual attire”. Polo shirts and khakis are the most common, though in the winter I will wear a sweater.
I have always viewed ties as a corporate noose.
–
Another reason why it would be awesome to have your own business: you can wear what you like (within reason).
To be honest I hate ties but since it’s pretty much an unwritten rule that you probably should wear a tie when there is a meeting. I carry a tie at all times in my laptop bag. On the weekends/days off its just t-shirt and jeans for attire.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:48 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
Behold… the Oath Keeper!
So easy, even a caveman can do it.
So wrong…so very, very wrong…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:48 pmpatrick5 says:
Eugene, you are not welcome in my embassy.
Teh children are reading this! Knock it off!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:49 pmZooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:
Hey… I call ‘em the way I see ‘em…
DON’T make me go all Johnny Cash here…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:51 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
“If you’re so pro-life, do me a favour: don’t lock arms and block medical clinics. If you’re so pro-life, lock arms and block cemeteries.-”Bill Hicks
Isn’t that what Fred Phelps does?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:53 pm–
Yup. Everything Fred Phelps hates, God hates as well. So yes God hates everything. Mister Phelps is living proof that the worst enemy of Christianity is the Christians.
Where was I?
AHHHHHHHH!
AHHHHHHHH!
I’m gonna do it! .. *flicker* … I’m .. gonna .. *flicker* .. do it!
hehehehehe (troll looks around with hysterical eyes)
The republican jewels are at stake!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:54 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
DON’T make me go all Johnny Cash here…
Go on! I dare you! You know you want to anyway. ;)
March 9th, 2010 at 9:54 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Another reason why it would be awesome to have your own business: you can wear what you like (within reason).
To be honest I hate ties but since it’s pretty much an unwritten rule that you probably should wear a tie when there is a meeting. I carry a tie at all times in my laptop bag. On the weekends/days off its just t-shirt and jeans for attire.
I thought Seattle was pretty relaxed in it’s business attire?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:55 pmLOL! I just stepped in and have NO idea what is going on. And, I admit it, I’m to lazy to find out.
March 9th, 2010 at 9:55 pmWho left the lighter on the coffee table…again?
Good thing our trollie is wearing 100% cotton diapers…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:56 pmLeftyLiberal
Another good reason to have a union job. You should SEE what I wear to work
March 9th, 2010 at 9:56 pmpatrick5 says:
March 9th, 2010 at 9:58 pmEugene, you are not welcome in my embassy.
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Funny I thought terrorists attacked embassies.
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
Where was I?
AHHHHHHHH!
AHHHHHHHH!
I’m gonna do it! .. *flicker* … I’m .. gonna .. *flicker* .. do it!
hehehehehe (troll looks around with hysterical eyes)
The republican jewels are at stake!
You mean these jewels?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:58 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
Cubic zirconia?
***eyes roll…***
March 9th, 2010 at 9:58 pmEugene@213, What do you wear for work?
March 9th, 2010 at 9:58 pmZooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:
I’m warnin’ ya…
March 9th, 2010 at 9:59 pmP.D. says:
LOL! I just stepped in and have NO idea what is going on. And, I admit it, I’m to lazy to find out.
Teh Beck crazies have rubbed off!
March 9th, 2010 at 9:59 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
I’m warnin’ ya…
You’ve got the talkin’ done, polar bear…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:00 pmAs a republican, my goal is to come to this thread making a bigger ass out of myself than the night before. I’m confident tonight I have a bigger ass. While this goal can be attributed to all my trolls, I feel enlighteted stating it word for word.
Good night, I love you liberals, I will think about you before I go to sleep, I will then do something else, then I will go to sleep.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:01 pmEugene Debs sponsered by the Church of the presumptious assumption says:
LeftyLiberal
Another good reason to have a union job. You should SEE what I wear to work
I’m almost afraid to ask…what do you wear?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:01 pm#
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What the GOP REALLY means … says:
As a republican, my goal is to come to this thread making a bigger ass out of myself than the night before. I’m confident tonight I have a bigger ass. While this goal can be attributed to all my trolls, I feel enlighteted stating it word for word.
Good night, I love you liberals, I will think about you before I go to sleep, I will then do something else, then I will go to sleep.
Good night, and try not to make too much of a mess on the sheets :D
March 9th, 2010 at 10:02 pmZooey@219, I admit, I’m out of the loop. Spring Fever is in the air. I have been planting, staking out areas where my garden is growing. I like to take a break from the MSM machine. It helps keep my sanity.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:02 pmP.D. says:
LOL! I just stepped in and have NO idea what is going on. And, I admit it, I’m to lazy to find out.
And you think we know what is going on?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:03 pmLefty’s got a point, PD. :-D
March 9th, 2010 at 10:05 pmLefty Liberal says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:06 pmI thought Seattle was pretty relaxed in it’s business attire?
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Not everywhere is as relaxed. It really depends where you go: when I started out in PC repair, where I worked had a very casual dress code but at Honeywell and a fair number of IT jobs for big companies prefer professionals to dress like professionals.
PD
All kinds of liberal tee shirts. I wear my Che Guevara T another that has Montezuma saying who is the illegal alien pilgrim, A picture of Native Americans that says Homeland Security fighting terrorism since 1492. One with a drawing of a dodo bird that says Humanity? Stuff like that.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:08 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
I thought Seattle was pretty relaxed in it’s business attire?
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Not everywhere is as relaxed. It really depends where you go: when I started out in PC repair, where I worked had a very casual dress code but at Honeywell and a fair number of IT jobs for big companies prefer professionals to dress like professionals.
Last large company I worked for (Fortune 50) we had a “business casual” dress code, but that was back in 2003. Have things changed that much in the 7 years since I was in that type of environment?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:08 pmYou’re an idiot. Somolia has no laws protecting individual liberties.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:09 pmZooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:
Hhhhhhmmmmmmphfffff…
Talk about the old “In. Your. Face….”
I warned ya… ‘n now… I’m gonna go all Johnny Cash on ya!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:09 pmGood Night my TP brethren, see you on the morn. I got planning to do, and a vegetable garden to start….
March 9th, 2010 at 10:09 pmP.D. says:
Zooey@219, I admit, I’m out of the loop. Spring Fever is in the air. I have been planting, staking out areas where my garden is growing. I like to take a break from the MSM machine. It helps keep my sanity.
Just like a good liberal – pumping oxygen in the air! Why aren’t you doing the pro-American ™ thing and taking teh family for a ride in the Hummer 2010 Earth Destroyer across state lines?
I now commence with the evenings closure.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:09 pm#
galt says:
flight says:
galt,
I know a perfect place for the modern conservative. The country has all the fear an anarchy you wingnuts crave. Take your bicycle and peddle to Somalia!
You’re an idiot. Somolia has no laws protecting individual liberties.
Sure they do jackass, all you need is a bigger gun.
FOAD troll
March 9th, 2010 at 10:11 pmI don’t see a conspiracy, I just see the promotion of racial inequality.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:11 pmWhere the hell is Somolia?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:12 pmgalt says:
You would appear to suffer from acute irony deficiency…
Me’thinks Somalia has NO laws protecting much of anything…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:12 pmA new Facebook campaign is calling for the Census to include “American” as a race option, saying “when America QUITS asking people what their COLOR, RACE, Ethnicity is, then we will all become a stronger Group:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:12 pmDumfuks
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galt says:
Lefty Liberal says:
galt says:
ralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for the Llama Milk Council® says:
Why do wingnuts extrapolate from asking a question about race to automatically treating people different because of race?
I’m not a wingnut, but I know there’s a reason for the question, or the question wouldn’t be asked. In their own faq they admit it’s to treat people differently based on ethnicity, and that’s the reason for the question.
Yes, you are. You are a scared little troll that sees conspiracies under your bed. If you are that frightened, then why don’t you just not return the census form and that way your voice in government will not be heard as loud. That would help everyone.
I don’t see a conspiracy, I just see the promotion of racial inequality.
Well, I would love to stay here and call you a moron, jackass, idiot and other terms that fit you so well, but it is time for me to go to bed. I have an early meeting tomorrow with a new client.
Good night TP’ers, and a big F**K YOU to all the trolls, especially you galt!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:15 pmpatrick5 is still angry that “greasy mexicans” isn’t an actual category…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:15 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
I thought Seattle was pretty relaxed in it’s business attire?
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Not everywhere is as relaxed. It really depends where you go: when I started out in PC repair, where I worked had a very casual dress code but at Honeywell and a fair number of IT jobs for big companies prefer professionals to dress like professionals.
Last large company I worked for (Fortune 50) we had a “business casual” dress code, but that was back in 2003. Have things changed that much in the 7 years since I was in that type of environment?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:16 pm–
I don’t think the environment has really changed, at least from my POV…it’s pretty much always been a tie optional environment (except in meetings) kind of thing. Ties suck but at least they don’t force us to wear suit jackets too. I already joke about feeling like a corporate monkey while wearing a tie…a suit jacket seems like de-evolution.
dbadass says:
Where the hell is Somolia?
Dunno, but the national currency is the simoleon.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:16 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
I warned ya… ‘n now… I’m gonna go all Johnny Cash on ya!
Love it. ;)
Can you come up here and do that to my philosophy prof’s face?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:17 pmayn rand:
You’re an idiot. Somolia has no laws protecting individual liberties.
Laws? Laws are enforced by governments. A real aynrandi libertarian doesn’t whine about government! He protects himself!
Weakling!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:19 pmYou really have no concept of the rule of law vs. the tyranny of dictators, do you? Have you ever even read the most basic book, Politics by Aristotle, that lays the groundwork for the subject?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:20 pmZooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:
Dunno… mebbe…
***acts coy… studies
nailsclaws***What’s in it for moi?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:20 pmYou have no ideas of any value, so your input really isn’t necessary.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:22 pmI am a sovereign citizen. My home is an embassy. I have diplomatic immunity. The census is a roll call for the arrest and enslavement of conservative citizens. I will not participate. — Patrick5
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I hope he realizes that unless he owns his own business or is independently wealthy, any paid employment he accepts outside his home makes him by his own definition an illegal alien (since it seems clear that he doesn’t give a toss about any laws other than his own and therefore didn’t bother applying for a visa or green card) — and we all know how right-wingers like him feel about illegal aliens!
His home is an embassy? Gee, I’d like to see him try to explain that to a State Department official! Actually, out of curiosity, does anyone happen to know what the laws are regarding diplomatic immunity? If my understanding is correct, it doesn’t even apply to all members of embassy or consular staff of a foreign power which the U.S. government has recognized — so the suggestion that it would apply to the self-styled ambassador of a soi-disant nation (especially a nation of one!) that the U.S. government has not officially recognized is positively laughable.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:23 pmYou’re confusing anarchy with liberalism. I’m a liberal, not an anarchist. I’m not a marxist liberal, I’m a Locke’an liberal.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:24 pmgalt says:
Poteeeeeeeeeto, potaaaaaaaaaaato… let’s call the whole thing off…
Just because you IMAGINE you see it, it doesn’t mean that it’s actually there…
To quote the esteemed Judge Land, whilst dressing down the truly execrable Orly Taitz…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
The Republic of Stupidity says:
Dunno… mebbe…
***acts coy… studies
nailsclaws***What’s in it for moi?
He’s got a HUGE stash of Blubber Bits ™ in the store room. I promised not to tell, but he pissed me off. So…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:25 pmgalt
You are a brainwashed moron and so stupid your IQ would embarass a fruitfly so your input is only useful as a free clown show we can point at and laugh
March 9th, 2010 at 10:25 pmgalt says:
You have no ideas of any value, so your input really isn’t necessary.
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Smell that free-dumb!
Freedumb by Suicidal Tenancies:
Peace through politics – is a fallacy that does not exist
Freedom, Freedom, Freedom, Freedom
Where’s your freedom? We got your freedumb
Get your freedom, I got your freedom
Truth is hard sell but I know what goes over well
Lies and cheap and free so the profit margin works
exceptionally
Where’s your freedumb I got your freedom
March 9th, 2010 at 10:26 pmGet your freedumb we got your freedom
Re: TRoS @ 99:
EEEWW!! Now I need a gallon of Brain Bleach to get that image out of my head.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:28 pmHere’s the website and where it says it:
http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php
Question 9:
Asked since 1790 …. State Governments use this data to determine congressional, state and local voting districts.
So, are you deaf, blind, or just plain stupid?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:29 pmZooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:
Heh… my fatal weakness…
Soooooooo… yer talkin’ a kind of a “Squid pro squo” arrangement, I take it?
**best J Belushi eye roll…***
Hmmmmmmm???
March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 pmYet you’re the one that has nothing of value to add to the conversation, merely following like a lemming.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:30 pmgalt says:
I’m a Locke’an liberal.
Define that, please. Precisely.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:31 pmRe: me at 254:
My bad; I meant _199_.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:31 pmgalt says:
Yet you’re the one that has nothing of value to add to the conversation, merely following like a lemming.
Another lame projection from the Beck-bot! Shocker!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:32 pmgalt
You basically DEFINE just plain stupid. Anyone that thinks the ONLY reason to gather racial information in a country with our racial history is so stupid it hurts to even think about it
March 9th, 2010 at 10:32 pmT.H.E.Cat says:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:32 pmRe: TRoS @ 99:
EEEWW!! Now I need a gallon of Brain Bleach to get that image out of my head.
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New and improved Brain Bleach! It now only tastes half as bad with twice the power!
galt says:
You’re confusing anarchy with liberalism. I’m a liberal, not an anarchist. I’m not a marxist liberal, I’m a Locke’an liberal.
You’re a concern troll retard. FOAD loser.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:33 pmYet you don’t want to ask why voting districts are based on ethnicity?
You’re soo enlightened!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:33 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
Soooooooo… yer talkin’ a kind of a “Squid pro squo” arrangement, I take it?
Exactly. But you’re just going Johnny Cash on him — not eating him. I’m not taking this class again!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:34 pmgalt says:
Awwwwwww… there, there, there, Li’l Feller…
Someone dares disagree w/ you, ‘n all you can do is hurl childish ad hominems…
What were you just lecturing someone else about?
Like I said… you appear to be suffering form acute irony deficiency…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:34 pmgalt
Ah, I am hurt. It isnt my fault you are too stupid to understand, well basically anything. You are a moron. The fact that when I make an ACTUAL contribution rather than just slap the stupid out of troll morons like you, it goes over your head like a 747 over a cornfield is just not my problem. Your ignorance is YOUR burden and you cant save money on a psychiatrist by snivelling to us.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:35 pmLocke is an empericist FAVORED by conservatives. David HUME now is THE empiricist. The most important philosopher ever to write in the English langauge but cons dont seem to be as enamored of him
March 9th, 2010 at 10:37 pmI’ve provided proof that the census bureau is asking the ethnicity question just about solely to rewrite congressional districts and you respond that I have nothing? lol.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:37 pmgalt says:
Uh… to prevent this sort of shit from happening? AGAIN???
Just asking, mind you…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:37 pmGood grief Beck is a nut as are the crazies who want to pretend that all the founders own hundereds of slaves whom they personally abused from dawn to dusk.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:38 pmAs an addendum to my previous post…
I wonder what will happen when Patrick tries to insist that he doesn’t have to appear for jury duty since he’s not a citizen anymore and that his so-called “diplomatic immunity” means he can’t be charged a fine…!
Gee, Patrick — good luck with that!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:40 pmZooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:
Hmmmmmmmmpf…
Brings to mind the old joke about two cannibals eating a clown…
One turns to the other and asks… does he taste funny to you?
**Ka-bang…***
Rimshot…
Thank yeeeeeeeew… thank yeeeeeeeeeew verrry much!!!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:40 pmThat link has absolutely nothing to do with redistricting based on ethnicity.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:40 pmI wish more people actually lol’d when they claim to have lol’d….
March 9th, 2010 at 10:40 pmWell g2g….
galt
No you didnt MORON. Congressional districts are drawn by LEGISLATURES. Drawing congressional districts is SUPPOSED to be done by many criteria and having a racial balance is a reasonable criteria however unless you are totall braindead you KNOW that congressional districts are drawn to the advantage of the PARTY IN POWER. Try to make sense. In 1790 Blacks couldnt even VOTE in many states
March 9th, 2010 at 10:42 pmgalt says:
And I’ve just provided proof as to why some people might actually be LEGITIMATELY concerned about making sure that certain things don’t happen… AGAIN…
Like i said… poteeeeeeeeeeeto, potaaaaaaaaaato…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:42 pmIt’s “offical”!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:42 pmgalt says:
That link has absolutely nothing to do with redistricting based on ethnicity.
LOL! What a completely chicken sh!t response! shocker!
Like you kkkrakers in the south doesn’t redistrict based on race! LOL!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:44 pmgalt?
uh oh I smell an Ayn Randoid.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:46 pmgalt says:
I’ve provided proof that the census bureau is asking the ethnicity question just about solely to rewrite congressional districts and you respond that I have nothing? lol.
You think that’s the “only” reason you bigots would want to know this information! LOL! Wow you’re truly a sh!t for brains redneck aren’t you?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:46 pmgalt: if you’d actually check prior posts it has been addressed:
March 9th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
cd says:
galt?
uh oh I smell an Ayn Randoid.
She’s just another libertard ron pauloid.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:46 pmSoooo, galt can’t explain what a “Locke’an liberal” is.
Not surprised…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:48 pm1: The question’s been asked since 1790. 2: The census bureau specifically says it’s used to help determine congressional districts (and distribution of federal funds). I promise, check it out on question 9 at http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php
March 9th, 2010 at 10:48 pm… so wait, you’re seriously alluding that because I disagree with racial discrimination that somehow I’m in favor of the federal government discriminating based on race?
wtf?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:50 pmgalt says:
I’m a Locke’an liberal.
Well, well. Isn’t that somethin’. Too refined for the hoi polloi of classical liberalism, are ya?
What inadequacies are you hiding that you have to align yourself with gravitational historic figures? Are you afraid of your own thoughts?
One other thing.
Atlas Shrugged was a book!!!!!
Be gone. I have no further need for you. Your countenance augers fatigue.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:51 pmgalt says:
Excuse me… you’re so right… THIS is the one that explains it…
I’ve bolded the pertinent information for your sake…
Funny… even though the first article was indeed ONLY about money laundering, you seemed to know what I was getting at, huh:
Imagine that. You DO understand the differing considerations after all…
Like I said, it would appear that SOME people do have valid reasons to be concerned, huh?
Poeeeeeeeto, potaaaaaato…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:51 pmOnly on a ‘progressive’ site can you get attacked for being against racial discrimination.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:51 pmgalt
Ah YEAH. To draw congressional districts for racial balance instead of diluting minority voting power and allocation of resources and this translates into ONLY PROMOTING INEQUALITY? Is it promoting inequality to address disparities in health and environmental risks or to assure that minority voting power is NOT diluted through jerrymandering? As I said in 1790 Blacks couldnt even VOTE in many states
March 9th, 2010 at 10:53 pmgalt
Only a MORON buys into the stupid argument that noticing race at ALL is somehow promoting racial discrimination. Like the history of racial discrimination wasnt BASED on not noticing the disparaties.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:55 pmThe 1790 part wasn’t even part of my point, as the constitution didn’t exist until 1791. The point here is that the federal government is openly advocating discrimination based on race. Please stay on topic.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:55 pmSo you’re effectively promoting the discriminatory treatment of different races?
How are you better than the KKK?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:56 pmSimple fact – WASP’s are a minority today. The roses are a mere illusion. Its over!
March 9th, 2010 at 10:56 pm“She’s just another libertard ron pauloid.”
Does she know that Rand had a hard on for people that killed little girls for fun/money?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:56 pmgalt
How stupid are you trying to BE? Since the question has been ASKED since 1790 it is obviously pertinent that blacks couldnt even VOTE in many states for another 70 years since your original assertion is that the question is asked only to PROMOTE RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. Hello? How in the WORLD is this to complex for you to understand?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:58 pmgalt @289 says:
galt @255 says:
Like I said… you appear to be suffering from acute irony deficiency…
Poteeeeeto… potaaaaaaaato…
March 9th, 2010 at 10:58 pmgalt says:
Only on a ‘progressive’ site can you get attacked for being against racial discrimination.
Oh grow up, ya little baby.
Yeah, the census is such a powerful tool, keepin’ whitey down and such.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:58 pmaynrandroid: I’ve provided proof that the census bureau is asking the ethnicity question just about solely to rewrite congressional districts and you respond that I have nothing? lol.
Yeah, ha ha. Except you only quote part of the reason for the question, even though it has been repeatedly pointed out to you that “solely” is a lie.
Why do you keep leaving out the other parts of that paragraph? Do you think none of us can read?
March 9th, 2010 at 10:59 pmDid you even read the link I provided, or understand the context?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:00 pmaynrandroid: Did you even read the link I provided, or understand the context?
Did you even read the FAQ about the Census? No?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:01 pmgalt
Ah no. I am advocating keeping an EYE on the racial disparities to STOP the racial discrimination. Only someone staggeringly stupid can turn, for instance, the STOPPING of diluting minority voting power by jerrymandering, into promoting the discriminatory treatment of different races?
How are you any differnt than a NAZI skinhead and how are you any smarter than a goldfish?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:01 pmCool, at least you’ll admit that you’re willing to discriminate as long as it’s against white people.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:01 pmgalt says:
And one can just as easily say the Federal govt is openly advocating the PREVENTION of discrimination based on race, as evinced by the Texas redistriciting scandal…
Poteeeeeeeeeeeto… potaaaaaaaaaaaato…
March 9th, 2010 at 11:01 pmgalt,
“Locke’an liberal”
Still waiting to find out what that is…
March 9th, 2010 at 11:01 pmgalt says:
Like I said… you appear to be suffering from acute irony deficiency…
March 9th, 2010 at 11:02 pmgalt says:
Did you even read the link I provided, or understand the context?
Yeah, we read your link. Happy?
How many white guys have you seen hanging from a tree lately, what with the census discriminatin’ and all?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:03 pmIf we didn’t know which neighborhoods had which races, how could we possibly jerrymander districts based on racial neighborhoods?
Oh, right, we couldn’t. So, lets check the races in each town so we can draw our districts around those races!
March 9th, 2010 at 11:04 pmI think the Census should include a question about the individual being a sht flinging Baboon Fan.
Anyone responding “yes – I am a Glenn Beck fan” should be spayed and branded on the spot.
Oh, deloused too.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:04 pmI’m sorry, earlier I wrote “Does she know that Rand had a hard on for people that killed little girls for fun/money?”
What I should have written “Does she know that Ayn Rand had a raging hard on for monsters that killed little girls for fun/money?”
March 9th, 2010 at 11:04 pmgalt
Since the REST of the link has been repeatedly cited by others and IGNORED by YOU. I would say YOU are the one that doesnt understand. There are none so STUPID as those who REFUSE to accept factual reality and that is YOU. Explain how STOPPING the use of jerrymandering to dilute minority voting power, which anyone paying attention KNOWS has happened in the past, can POSSIBLY be construed as promoting racial discrimination or STFU
March 9th, 2010 at 11:04 pmWasn’t there that one in WV that got hanged?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:04 pmI’ve been saying that the census has been using ethnicity to determine voting districts, and it shouldn’t be. If the law saw all people as the same color, we wouldn’t have jerrymandering based on race.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:06 pmgalt says:
… so wait, you’re seriously alluding that because I disagree with racial discrimination that somehow I’m in favor of the federal government discriminating based on race?
wtf?
LOL! Like legislation stops you retard from finding ways like “redistricting” to discrimination? LOL! You conservatards on the supreme court were happy to permit this to happen in texas in 2004. are you seriously ignoring the racial discrimination policies of the GOP? you really are a retard.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:06 pmgalt says:
Cool, at least you’ll admit that you’re willing to discriminate as long as it’s against white people.
Says the neo-nazi trailer trash…. shocker!
March 9th, 2010 at 11:07 pmHey galt how does it feel to know Rand loved her a child killer?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:07 pmgalt says:
I’ve been saying that the census has been using ethnicity to determine voting districts, and it shouldn’t be. If the law saw all people as the same color, we wouldn’t have jerrymandering based on race.
So you prefer there is no census so the republicans can jerrymander and ignore they did it out of racism? what a f*kkktard fool you are…
March 9th, 2010 at 11:08 pmgalt says:
Cool, at least you’ll admit that you’re willing to discriminate as long as it’s against white people.
LMAO
That’s it.
Go away and take your Ayn Rand bobble-head doll with you.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:08 pmgalt
The law can SAY that water isnt WET. It wont change reality. The law can PRETEND there is no such thing as racial discrimination and look the other way and that would ENABLE racial discrimination. This is so simple it is embarassing to have to explain it to anyone pretending to be an adult
March 9th, 2010 at 11:09 pmRedistricting in Texas was traditionally done once every ten years, soon after the National Census. A redistricting occurred in 1991, when the Democrats held both the governor’s seat (with Ann Richards) and a legislative majority. By 2000, Republican George W. Bush was governor, with Republican Rick Perry as his lieutenant governor.
Man, sure doesn’t sound like they’re using the census’ race question to help jerrymander to me!
March 9th, 2010 at 11:12 pmPersonally, I don’t care what you read or fail to understand out of context.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:12 pmgalt says:
Indeed… in an ideal world… now… if we can only convince the Tom DeLays amongst us… no more voter caging scams, huh?
Or that ugly nonsense in FLA in 2000…
And let’s not even get into Lee Atwater and the Southern Strategy, huh?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:13 pmThe law can demand that all citizens be treated equally by the law regardless of skin color.
Demanding anything else is giving preference to one person at the others expense.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:14 pmgalt
MY GOD how stupid are you trying to BE?
The article said the justice dept STOPPED jerrymandering for racial reasons in 2005 SPEARHEADED BY TOM DELAY. Do we need to explain to you who Tom Delay is?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:15 pm321 gulps
What kind of race are you?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:15 pm“Personally, I don’t care what you read or fail to understand out of context.”
out of context? lol
“The best way to get to the bottom of Ayn Rand’s beliefs is to take a look at how she developed the superhero of her novel, Atlas Shrugged, John Galt. Back in the late 1920s, as Ayn Rand was working out her philosophy, she became enthralled by a real-life American serial killer, William Edward Hickman, whose gruesome, sadistic dismemberment of 12-year-old girl named Marion Parker in 1927 shocked the nation. Rand filled her early notebooks with worshipful praise of Hickman. According to biographer Jennifer Burns, author of Goddess of the Market, Rand was so smitten with Hickman that she modeled her first literary creation — Danny Renahan, the protagonist of her unfinished first novel, The Little Street — on him.
need I go on?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:16 pmYou don’t need to explain to me that the only reason DeLay was able to attempt to jerrymander the districts was precisely because of the census data provided to him in the first place.
I do think you need to understand that though.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:16 pmgalt says:
Whoa… are you really that blatantly duplicitous?
From the SAME article…
That’s pretty pathetic, Li’l Feller… talk about weak…
March 9th, 2010 at 11:17 pmgalt
Ah YEAH. It can and DOES. They dont need stats like the census FOR discrimination. They need those stats to PROVE the discrimination. The law DEMANDS people be treated the same and use census stats to STOP jerrymandering to dilute minority voting power and address things like employment disparity.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:17 pmLike I said, you don’t need to take third hand works from second hand biographers out of context to attempt to provide some kind of idea of who a person was to me that you’re scared of. It’s not my fault that you’re afraid of not getting a welfare check.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:18 pmConservatives think any effort to level the playing field is a zero sum game.
“Notwithstanding 300 years of legal and practical discrimination, the black man is suddenly the socio-economic equal if his oppressors…………cuz I really wanna keep my shit”……..
March 9th, 2010 at 11:18 pmgalt says:
That’s asinine.
You’re chasing your own tail.
Give up. You’re embarrassing yourself at this point.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
galt says:
Man, sure doesn’t sound like they’re using the census’ race question to help jerrymander to me!
Except in 2000 where Texas used the census to jerrymander the state and disenfranchise african americans that resulted in a supreme court lawsuit which your activist justices were happy to permit racism to be used. The reason it doesn’t “sound” like something to you is you are retarded and refuse to accept the facts. That’s your problem though, not ours. We’re just here to ridicule you for your idiocy.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:20 pmWhy are they so uptight about welfare? I smell me those angry lower middleclass marginal types….
March 9th, 2010 at 11:20 pmLike I said, you don’t need to take third hand works from second hand biographers out of context to attempt to provide some kind of idea of who a person was to me that you’re scared of. It’s not my fault that you’re afraid of not getting a welfare check.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
galt says:
The law can demand that all citizens be treated equally by the law regardless of skin color.
Demanding anything else is giving preference to one person at the others expense.
They why do you keep defending texas doing exactly that? hypocrisy much dipsh!t?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:21 pmYou don’t understand that the *only* reason they’re even able to dream up districts like this is because of THIS ONE QUESTION on the census. They’ve pretty much got it down to splitting duplexes in half to get one democrat and one republican vote in two different districts.
This is just on *REDISTRICTING*. We haven’t even gotten to the distribution of federal funds part yet.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:21 pmgalt
My GOD you just cant be this stupid. Delay didnt NEED census data to KNOW the south side of Houston was a heavily black area. They NEEDED the census data to PROVE the jerrymandering was done for racial reasons. At this point you are just a liar. It is impossible you cannot understand the point here. You dont CARE what the point is. You just REFUSE to accept reality. Your assertion the data is only used to promote racial discrimination is crap. You can not possibly be so stupid as to not see this by now
March 9th, 2010 at 11:21 pmalt says:
Like I said, you don’t need to take third hand works from second hand biographers out of context to attempt to provide some kind of idea of who a person was to me that you’re scared of. It’s not my fault that you’re afraid of not getting a welfare check.
Spoken like a class warfare racist fascist retard. shocker!
March 9th, 2010 at 11:21 pmgalt
It isnt OUR fault you are so pathetic and stupid that these old recycled talking points are the best you can do. You are simply pitiful
March 9th, 2010 at 11:22 pm‘Like I said, you don’t need to take third hand works from second hand biographers out of context to attempt to provide some kind of idea of who a person was to me that you’re scared of. It’s not my fault that you’re afraid of not getting a welfare check.’
You want a quote? heres a couple for you.
“What did Rand admire so much about Hickman? His sociopathic qualities: “Other people do not exist for him, and he does not see why they should,” she wrote, gushing that Hickman had “no regard whatsoever for all that society holds sacred, and with a consciousness all his own. He has the true, innate psychology of a Superman. He can never realize and feel ‘other people.’“
March 9th, 2010 at 11:23 pmI’ll leave the rest of you to bat aynrandroid around like a ping-pong ball. Life is too short to waste time with dishonest tools.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:23 pmgalt says:
You don’t understand that the *only* reason they’re even able to dream up districts like this is because of THIS ONE QUESTION on the census. They’ve pretty much got it down to splitting duplexes in half to get one democrat and one republican vote in two different districts.
LOL! That’s the “only” reason? Really? Your “opinion” is funny. Retarded, but funny!
galt says:
This is just on *REDISTRICTING*. We haven’t even gotten to the distribution of federal funds part yet.
You mean where white districts get more money if they keep minorities from registering out of “fear”? LOL!
How do you breathe with your head so far up your own *ss?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:24 pmgalt
You are just too stupid to be real or you are a liar. As I have repeatedly pointed out. They dont NEED those stats to draw discrimintory districts. Delay KNOWS what the black areas of Houston, Dallas, Arlington, El Paso, and such ARE. They need the stats to PROVE that is what is being done. Try finding a reasonably bright six year old to explain this incredibly simple concept, that seems far beyond your meager critical thinking skills, to you
March 9th, 2010 at 11:26 pmgummitch — this space for rent says:
I’ll leave the rest of you to bat aynrandroid around like a ping-pong ball. Life is too short to waste time with dishonest tools.
Srsly. That dishonest tool won’t (or can’t) define his own ideological philosophy.
*eyes rolling*
March 9th, 2010 at 11:26 pmDon’t worry Gene I think the pauloid is currently choking on the idea of his hero describing a child killing psychopath as a “genuinely beautiful soul”.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:29 pmYou don’t understand that most people don’t know most racial makeups of most towns. I could guess that Harlem is mostly black, as I’d be willing to bet most people would. It happens to not be.
So, without knowing what areas contain what ethnicities and the rates at which change occurs, you can see how after 20 years of not asking this question it’d be pretty damn hard to guess which areas are one race and which are another.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:29 pmHey who ever votes this comment down takes life too seriously and is a fat loser with a gouter on their neck.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:30 pmOK, I give in. We should stop asking about race, even though I sort of thought the information was useful just to know who the “We” in “We the People” are. From now on the census should ask whether or not a person read an incredibly boring and unreadable book of third rate philosophy in college and has been unable to move past that phase. Perhaps we could then gerrymander those people out of any voting district whatsoever.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:31 pmRandoids like galt don’t see race.
To them people are just cattle.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:32 pmgalt
Give it UP. What MOST people know is irrelevant. I gaurantee you that the political machine knows EXACTLY which areas are minority and which arent and they DONT need the census to tell them. Please tell me this isnt NEWS to you.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:32 pmThe scripted little bs from crybaby becky glorified slavery, bolstered the notion that people of color use aid more than white people, stirred his racist base and proved he can be nuttier than a fruitcake.
The baby is batshit crazy.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:33 pmOk, take context here. She admired that other people didn’t exist for him, and he didn’t see why they should. Then she wrote on that he had no regard for what society thought of as sacred, and lived in his own little world.
At what point does she admire the ideal of him taking another person’s liberty?
The only things she does seem to admire about him are his own abilities to utilize his own liberty. She makes no mention about his infringing on others liberties.
Kinda like admiring a general for his skill, but not his murdering millions of people in senseless wars.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:33 pmbraveMORON
FOAD troll.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:33 pmThe census is to found out who to give free money to all the illegals in this country.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:33 pmbraveheart08
March 9th, 2010 at 11:33 pmThat blue shit all over your face just screams frat brat…
…. PROVIDED TO THEM BY THE CENSUS.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:34 pmZooey@345
Of course he can’t. And why should he? After all, he is “Lockean” liberal and “Lockean” liberals answer to no one, I tell you, NO ONE!!
Lockean liberal. Oy.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:34 pm“At what point does she admire the ideal of him taking another person’s liberty?”
WTF else was he known for???
March 9th, 2010 at 11:35 pmEugene Debs sponsered by the Church of the presumptious assumption says:
I wear all kinds of liberal tee shirts. I wear my Che Guevara T another that has Montezuma wiping his butt with the American flag, Charles Manson handing out Christmas gifts to little children, stuff like that.
Under your Mall Cop uniform or your Super Man jammies?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:36 pmYou guys really don’t understand classical liberalism?
Wow. Marxists are even more stupid than I thought.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:36 pmI still don’t know what you mean by blue shit all over your face are you some kind of freak tranny?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:36 pmgalt
That is plain stupid. Saying other people do not EXIST is glorifying his psychopathy. Saying it is GOOD to be a sociopath. Empathy, sympathy, caring about one another is what makes a SOCIETY instead of a large group of people living in the same geographic area. It is the difference between America and Lord of the Flies. Recognizing we are all in this together makes us a stronger country not to mention BETTER HUMAN BEINGS. Sociopaths are hardly human at ALL. There is a REASON that the word human and humane have the same root
March 9th, 2010 at 11:37 pm355
March 9th, 2010 at 11:37 pmI think we need to diagram that sentence
I just went into painful detail, in context, as to how this biographer distorted facts to meet her own progressive agenda. If you failed to comprehend those facts it’s only your own fault.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:37 pmare you some kind of freak tranny?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:39 pm—
as in on a resume?
OK galt at this point you are just too stupid to breathe or an outright LIAR. Politicians dont need the CENSUS to tell them the racial makeup of their districts. To even say they do is monumentally stupid. They know their districts like the back of their hands. IF there were no census information they would STILL KNOW it would just be impossible to PROVE.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:39 pmbraveheart08 at 11:30 pm
Hey who ever votes this comment down takes life too seriously and is a fat loser with a gouter on their neck.
You mean a goiter. Gout is a disease of the joints, like arthritis. Sheesh!
“Blue shit” refers to the battle paint Mel Gibson wore in the movie. Double Sheesh!
Boy, I say, I say, Boy, I keep pitchin’ ‘em, and you keep missin’ ‘em!
March 9th, 2010 at 11:40 pmbraveheart08 says:
Any proof, or just a shrill, embarrassing screech?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:40 pmSaying that others don’t exist is different from caring whether others exist.
Money, Trade, Division of Labour, and Common Defense are what make society. Otherwise, I can tell you right now that I’d definitely despise everyone here if I didn’t know that somehow I have to work with you all for my own profit and welfare.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:41 pmYou’re going through painful efforts to ignore Rand described a man who’s only claim to fame was his torture/murder of a little girl as a “genuinely beautiful soul”.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:41 pmSlappyBeggerino
Still begging for pity I see. It wont work. There is no pity for you here. You can forget ever being funny. You are not clever. You are too stupid to ever pull clever off. You are stupid and pathetic and that is all you will ever be but we already gave you all the pity you are going to get. There is no pity here for you and there never will be again poor little pity junkie
March 9th, 2010 at 11:41 pmAre you an idiot?
They might know their districts, but how would they redistrict to their benefit if they had no idea of race outside of their districts, or districts they were considering running in?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:42 pmIm a highlander I don’t wear blue paint on my face, I just chop heads off. We can’t do that these days because some puritan fool came up with the idea that there is a god and they think they can save everbodys soul.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:42 pmgalt
Your detail was only painful in its abject stupidity. It didnt even come CLOSE to makings sense
March 9th, 2010 at 11:43 pmGalt is going through all this to defend Beck’s insanity.
Galt = drhunt
March 9th, 2010 at 11:44 pmI’m sorry that you went to public school, but I don’t have time to teach you english. I do charge $85/hr for tutoring if you care.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:44 pmI just chop heads off.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:45 pm—
So you’re a rabbi?
What proof do you need about the census? Why do you think the government created in the first place so they know how much money to dish out?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:45 pmSad part is, I’m not even defending Beck. I’m just saying that discriminating based on race is wrong in a lawful society.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:45 pmgalt
No YOU are clearly the idiot. Call an alderman in Chicago and ask him how many black families and how many hispanic families live between 42nd street and Houston st and he wont even have to look it up. My GOD you are just a MORON. Politicians know the racial makeup of their districts down to a tee and they dont need or USE the census they spend money to get up to DATE date on EXACTLY that. Are you REALLY this stupid? Are you just making whatever weak argument you can because you are being punked so badly? You are ridiculous.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:46 pmgalt says:
Cool…
… a trite, stale cliche…
I’m actually a Salamo-Marxist, myself…
What… did you ask what Salamo-Marxism is?
Why… it’s a new political philosophy that’s sweeping the country, a tantalizing blend of two different schools – the fervent devotion to salted dried meats, along w/ some bread, lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise, and mustard, coupled w/ the timeless humor of Groucho, Chico, Harpo, and of course, Gummo…
Who could ever forget Gummo? Or Gumby, for that matter…?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:46 pmYep. No shared culture, no common tradition, no sense of community.
I can certainly see how someone could look at life the way you do.
I just don’t understand why anyone would want to.
And I get the sense that you already despise everyone here; you just calculate that it’s not in your best interests (for some reason) to say so.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:47 pmAm I the only one who can picture gullible galt telling us “This museum is lovingly dedicated to the Klaus Barbie that nobody knows. The husband, the devoted father, the wine connoisseur, and three time ballroom dancing champion”?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:47 pmgalt
I am sorry you are so STUPID. More like you charge 85 cents for blowjobs on skidrow. I am a married man so take your solicitation elsewhere
March 9th, 2010 at 11:47 pmIf you weren’t so stupid that you can’t get a government job you would actually know what was going on with the government without looking at all the media stories sent out to cover it up, reading these stories is not telling you what the governmment is really up to.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:49 pmbraveheart08 at 11:42 pm
Im a highlander…
What clan?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:50 pmYou’re being way too narrow minded here.
Don’t forget that it was census data that was used to round up Japanese Americans during WW II and put them in internment camps. GAO also admits that census data are used for government housing crackdowns. Census data are enormously helpful to federal agents in conducting raids.
Did you know that census data concerning race are widely used to discourage factories and manufacturers from locating in areas of high unemployment? How is this so? Bill Clinton’s EPA and Justice Dept. have teamed up to invent a concept called “Environmental Justice” which metes out severe fines against factories and manufacturers located in largely poor and minority communities. It didn’t take factory owners long to wise up. Now they routinely avoid building in communities who could most benefit economically — using the same census data Clinton uses to penalize them if they do build there.
This enough, or can I keep going?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:50 pmDude you are trying to hard. It is just getting silly. Never overplay your cards
March 9th, 2010 at 11:50 pmgalt
Why dont you stop embarassing yourself. Your stupidity is just becoming a sad thing. Actually she said Hickman didnt know they existed and didnt KNOW WHY THEY SHOULD, which is EXACTLY not caring. You do understand that you are a moron and not very good at this dont you?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:50 pmThe government is trying to find out how much money they need to give out on short sale propertys and that means all the illegals.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:51 pmdebbi…..are you going to Venezuela this year to help Sean Penn and Hugo complete their yearly census. Or maybe Cuba? I hear the next elections may be close and Castro just might get beat out for El Presidente ……..what does your polling data show as to who the leader might be at these early stages of the election cycle?
Please tell us when you first started having these feelings for and affinity to mass murders?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:51 pmDoes anyone want to take up a collection to pay galt to tutor bravefart? Galt is annoying, but I think he knows the census is required by the constitution.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:51 pmgalt
By the way defining yourself SOLELY by commerce and defining yourself SOLELY by making money is just pathetic. It shows you to be a soulless creature devoid of humanity, decency and any sense of honor or integrity
March 9th, 2010 at 11:52 pmIM a mcleod septs of harris and lewes
March 9th, 2010 at 11:52 pmBecause it’s in my best interest to talk you out of ruining the closest thing to Capitalism the world has ever seen.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:53 pm…or there really isn’t a giant government conspiracy to use the census to take away any of your ill defined ‘freedoms’ but the ethnic/cultural divides in the questions are rather a way for the civil service to keep track of how their countries’ citizens self identify themselves so the legitimately elected government can best serve them. You know, rather then using those pesky identity ‘tags’ you’d think that by removing ethnic and cultural questions on a census form would be a way of limiting the numerate of a minority?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:53 pmBut hey, what do *I* know? Not like I do this for a living and not host a moronic t.v show for millions a month or anything…. (oh, I’m bitter!)
galt
Even if I GIVE you all those points so WHAT? Fire can be used to burn down your house. Does that mean it can ONLY be used to burn down your house? The assertion you are defending here is that the census is used ONLY for racial discrimination. It is an utterly MORONIC statement. No rational human being could possibly take it seriously
March 9th, 2010 at 11:54 pmI wonder if it ever bothers Randians that their theoretical utopia is secure because of the freedoms guaranteed and protected by the government they despise… they have the luxury of focusing on the negative in what most humans value in society because the actual end products of a Hobbesian universe are largely kept at bay by the very forces of order and organization that they claim the right to transcend.
Maybe that’s why hardly anybody takes them seriously.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:55 pmI don’t personally only value money. I value lots of things. I value certain types of company. I value certain people.
I refuse to value all other people above myself though. In fact, I value myself above all else, because if I didn’t how could I value anyone else at all?
But no, you’ve given me nothing to value you by, so I don’t value you more than the ant I just killed.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:55 pmgalt says:
You guys really don’t understand classical liberalism?
Well, it’s just so deep, isn’t it?
Though, I’m certain you’d agree, not as deep and as complicated as the life of a “Lockean” liberal.
Poser
March 9th, 2010 at 11:56 pmSlappyBeggerino
It doesnt matter how much you beg. There is no pity for you here. Beg, beg, beg day after day we are bored with your constant demands for pity. You will never be clever. You will never be funny. You will be stupid and pathetic your entire life and all your posts will go to the sewer where they belong because we have no more pity for you.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:56 pmI value others
March 9th, 2010 at 11:57 pmCan Rush Limbaugh take Glenn Beck with him when he moves to Costa Rica?
March 9th, 2010 at 11:57 pmYou don’t value people galt you value the entertainment and other services they can provide for you.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:57 pmIf you had demonstrated any real depth of understanding of any ethos other than your own, you might have had a shot at that.
As it is, I don’t see why it’s in your best interest to try to sell an unattractive solipsistic philosophy to people who have both intelligence and compassion and are capable of using both.
But you give it your best shot.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:57 pmOh my god — galt is my mother-in-law!
March 9th, 2010 at 11:58 pmEugene Debs sponsered by the Church of the presumptious assumption says: It shows you to be a soulless creature devoid of humanity, decency and any sense of honor or integrity
Che? You are insane!
March 9th, 2010 at 11:58 pmYet you’ve offered no reason to the contrary! Well, I take that back. You’ve offered half of one in the Texas case. Unfortunately, the burden of proof in that case would be on the Government to prove that it’s not gerrymandering, which it could only prove with a census, so it’s not really proof at all.
March 9th, 2010 at 11:59 pm“Oh my god — galt is my mother-in-law!”
I’d be careful galt’s likely to kill you soon as you’ve produced grandkids.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:00 amGood point.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:00 amTHis is the type of foolish rhetorical question that probably sounds good to the author but falls utterly flat with anyone who doesn’t share the author’s philosophy.
Unfortunately for folks like galt, the lack of true empathy means that their arguments will always be tailored for themselves and so will never be able to appeal to or reach anyone who isn’t already predisposed to join them in their little cult.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:01 amSo I am curious. Do I just frustrate you or is it that you really don’t place any value on others than yourself?
March 10th, 2010 at 12:02 amgalt
So you value everyone based on how YOU profit from them. As I said you are a soulless creature with no concept of decency, honor, integrity or humanity.
You have given us a lot of laughs. You have also shown us that some MORONS are immune to factual reality. The service you perform is NOT the sole sum of what you mean however. If you were hungry I would feed you. Not because there was anything in it for me or because I like you. Since I think you are pathetic at best, but for the best reason in the world. Because I CAN. Because if I help another human being it furthers the very CONCEPT of decency and humanity. Not because there is anything in it for me but because it is the right thing to do. When we DO what is right it spirals. It like violence can spiral into something larger and go beyond the simple act itself. Humanity itself is futhered by showing humanity to others.
To say if you didnt value yourself above all things you would not know how to value anything is the saddest most pathetic thing I have ever read in the English language. You should be ashamed to be so narrow. To have no concept of humanity and decency. It is clear by now however that you have no concept of shame either. You are nearing the goal of being that superman who was actually nothing but a sociopath
March 10th, 2010 at 12:04 amWell, if my life depends on you, I’m already screwed. I think I’ll take my chances with myself.
I’m not propagating a cult. I’m simply propagating the rule of law instead of the rule of men. I’d be fine with laws that didn’t change from year to year, and I could expect the consequences of any action that I take. I just want to know the consequences of any given action I take in advance.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:04 amWell, as pointed out earlier, I do value the entertainment and services that others provide for me, so I do suppose you’re serving my rational selfish interests.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:06 am“galt says:
cd says:
You don’t value people galt you value the entertainment and other services they can provide for you.
Good point.”
Galt I’ve got to ask did either (or both) of your parents suffer from schizophrenia or any other severe mental illness?
I’m not going to use it to make fun of you if it’s true.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:06 amDid you mean shellfish? I almost always have shellfish…
March 10th, 2010 at 12:07 amgalt says:
Well, if my life depends on you, I’m already screwed. I think I’ll take my chances with myself.
After spending a few minutes with these animals even they have to come to the same logical conclusion.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:07 amHow do you define Humanity?
How do you define Decency?
I’d say that I’ve got Honor and Integrity down.
If you define Humanity and Decency as placing value in others above placing value in myself, then I have neither, nor do I have need for either.
If you define Humanity and Decency as valuing what makes life better for me, and hence those around me, then I’d say I’m far more humane than the individual that gives his hard earned wealth to strangers that he doesn’t know and don’t appreciate him.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:09 amgalt
WOW. You have taken STUPID to the level of an artform. The Texas case is a PERFECT example. Yes they needed the census to prove it. THAT IS THE POINT MORON. It is a sort of deranged stupidity to say that since they needed the census to PROVE the racial discrimination that it isnt really proof. I will just let the abject stupidity of that statement hang there to be ridiculed by all of those with the capability of higher brain function. YOU can just be confused. It is your natural state anyway
March 10th, 2010 at 12:09 amSlappyBeggerino
We already KNOW you are stupid. We already KNOW you are addicted to our pity. For goodness sakes stop humiliating yourself so. There is no pity for you here. Spend your time doing something profitable. Go get lessons in dignity and self respect from a crackwhore. Your trailer trash whore of a mother will do.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:11 amAgain Galt I’ve got to ask did either (or both) of your parents suffer from schizophrenia or any other severe mental illness?
I’m not going to use this information to make fun of you if it’s true.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:12 amYou don’t understand…
The burden of proof was on the State, to prove that no gerrymandering occured. ONLY census data (ie; the data from the census, but not with those census numbers) could have absolved the state from any wrong doing. Since the State could obviously not provide the proof required, the State was found to be in violation of the law.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:12 amgalt
The fact you NEED humanity and decency defined for you proves my point that you have no concept of either.
You prove it again when you state humanity and decency are all about what is in it for YOU. Without the concept that sometimes you put the wellbeing of others ABOVE what is best for you then there is no such THING as society. You PROVE you have no soul.
You did say one true thing. You have neither humanity nor decency. The fact you think you dont need them proves you have no soul. I pity you.
I DO give money to strangers. I dont NEED them to appreciate me for doing so.
The three most beautiful words in the English language are not I love you, but Can I Help? It is so 3d it is a commitment to be involved in the life of another. These words convey our common humanity your need for one another our acceptance that we are all in this together more than any others. If I see someone on their knees it is an invitation to help them up. To better their lives and in doing so make the world that much better a place. To YOU when you see someone on their knees you think it is a perfect opportunity to kick their teeth down their throat and thus make the world that much UGLIER. If the world were peopled by selfish, heartless soulless pieces of shit like YOU the human race would soon be extinct
March 10th, 2010 at 12:19 amDo you guys really all just slander people that sound reasonable like this?
March 10th, 2010 at 12:19 amSince when is the burden of proof on the accused? Of COURSE they couldnt prove they were innocent since the census data proved THEY WERENT. Your arguments are stupid, disengenuous and inane. Give it up.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:21 amDo you guys really all just slander people that sound reasonable like this?
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March 10th, 2010 at 12:22 amNo. Mostly I just encourage them to look within in a metacognitive sort of way…
galt
So to YOU this was reasonable?
After spending a few minutes with these animals even they have to come to the same logical conclusion.
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Go FCUK yourself galt you are not only a moron you are a punkass troll
March 10th, 2010 at 12:24 amWhoa. I don’t *need*. You want me to have. Get that straight.
This is obviously not true. We trade with each other because we recognize that it’s in both of our rational self interests. That’s what creates a society. If I give you everything you need and I wind up with nothing, what happens when you’ve moved out of contact with me? All of a sudden I’ve perpetuated the “need” without creating anything to offer for it.
Yet you feel good doing it. The emotional benefit you receive outweighs the amount of effort that went into producing the money that you procured. You did it purely for yourself, but refuse to recognize it based on a sense of altruism.
If you get personal enjoyment, yes.
I guarantee that I help a lot more people employing 10 people at an average of 50,000 a year than you help giving your money to a bum on the street though. I don’t ask “Can I help?” but “How can we help each other?”
So I ask again, who’s more humane?
March 10th, 2010 at 12:24 amgalt says:
Do you guys really all just slander people that sound reasonable like this?
Mr. No-Quarter-Given-None-Taken is suddenly curious about his place in the community.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:25 amOh galt I’m so sorry.
Here if this isn’t the right place for you I likely has a link to a group that can help you.
http://www.schizophrenia.com/family/FAQoffspring.htm
March 10th, 2010 at 12:26 amIn our country, the people are protected by the laws, not the government. That whole constitutional republic thing.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:26 amHmm, no disputation about being ‘drhunt’…
March 10th, 2010 at 12:27 amHow do you feel about the hiring of undocumented laborers?
March 10th, 2010 at 12:28 amI think you should pay more attention to the nonsense you are spewing, champ.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:31 amMore reasonable than the rest of the comments I’ve gotten. All I’ve argued is that racial discrimination is wrong.
Quite ironically, you all oppose racial discrimination when it comes to actually defending the country.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:31 amhttp://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/21/inhofe-profiling/#comments
galt says:
A little old man was getting viciously mugged outside my building last night.
I mean VICIOUSLY..
I called the cops in. They arrested the perp righteously.
I don’t think ‘the laws’ were the ones putting the cuffs on, dude.
It was the COPS… the employees of the govt…
Really… give it up… you’re embarrassing yourself at this point.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:32 am“No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend’s or of thine own were; any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.”
I prefer Mr. Donne to Ms. Rand.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:33 amI honestly couldn’t care less who hires who. I’m willing to hire the person that can do the best job for the lowest price. It’s their choice whether to work with me or not.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:33 amThe last person I knew to DELIBERATELY hire illegals was an arch Republican. You so much as mention Bush in a negative light, he’d chew you up so badly. And when he was done, he’d go back to ordering his Guatemalans around.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:34 amgalt
You MORON. You ASKED for the definition. How is that ME needing to give you anything? My GOD you are stupid.
No trading out of self interest does NOT constitute a society. Neandrathals had society. They took care of their weak. They didnt do so much trading as hunter gatherers. It is our interest in the common good that makes a society and that will NEVER come from your selfish I only care what is in it for me way of life.
It once again shows what a soulless cretin you are that you think the ONLY possible reason to help another is because of what is in it for me. I pity you.
NO it isnt about personal enjoyment. It is about recognizing our common humanity. Our connection to one another. About making the whole WORLD a better place by doing what is right when it is in front of you. I would be better off trying to explain the color blue to a blindman than try to explain decency and humanity to a soulless pitiful husk like you. Do you even REMEMBER what it was like before your soul dried up and blew away?
You can gauarantee NO SUCH THING. You know nothing about me. If you own a company then there is a product or service being provided and those jobs are required to provide them so those jobs would be there whether you died at birth or not so YOU provide NOTHING special. NOTHING that wouldnt be there without you. Immediatly you disparage someone I give money to as a bum. Who said they were such? You disgust me and your attitude would disgust any decent human being as to who is more humane? The answer is obvious. Every decent human being is more humane than you are or will ever be. That is just an obvious FACT
March 10th, 2010 at 12:34 amThen you defended it in the next sentence. Again, you should pay a bit more attention to the garbage you are spewing as you would realise it is unrealistic and tends to contradict iteself.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:34 amYou’re dumber than you first appeared. Let me re-state to be more clear:
The laws in our country protect -people- from the government, not government from the people.
Therefore, if the government is accused of performing an illegal act, the burden of proof is on the government.
So yeah, please give it up. I really do have to work in the morning.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:36 amgalt says:
Funny… just a few posts ago, you were defending the rule of law…
galt says:
And now you don’t care…
You’re not very good at this, are you?
March 10th, 2010 at 12:37 amgalt
More reasonable than the rest of the comments I’ve gotten. All I’ve argued is that racial discrimination is wrong
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You are a LIAR. You argued that the census information could ONLY be used to promote racial discrimination. Your arguments would HELP propigate racial discrimination and anyone NOT a brainwashed MORON could see this.
Anyway your ignorant statement was false and show you to be a punkass troll. It WASNT reasonable and you said it was. You attacked US for being rude to a moron being rude to us. So you are not only a moron, a punkass troll and a fool but also a hypocrite
March 10th, 2010 at 12:37 amCould you tell us exactly which part of our legal system is based on the innocent having to prove their innocence, “doctor”?
March 10th, 2010 at 12:38 amgalt says:
Awwwwww… back to childish ad hominems…
You can leave anytime you want.
You shant be missed.
Laughed at… yes…
Missed?
Not so much…
March 10th, 2010 at 12:38 am.
Dear Glen Beck,
Joseph Goebbels shone way brighter than you. Try harder!
.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:39 amHow much longer will the public put up with lies and tirades of Glen Beck?? How much longer will any media with any inch of integrity continue to associate itself with this snake??He goes way beyond shock jock and into delivering obscene rhetoric and lies over the airwaves. This isn’t free speech, this is harmful propaganda and far more offensive than any slip of a gown at a Super bowl game.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:39 amglamourdammerung says:
Careful… he might call you a childish name…
March 10th, 2010 at 12:40 amAyn Rand – giving selfish people something to quote since the day she finished that stupid fkn book.
Galt,
Arrested development – check it out.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:40 amgalt
You are just so stupid you dont even understand how stupid you are. The Justice Dept IS the gov. The state of Texas is the defendent in this case. Now try to keep up. The GOV, that is the justice dept not only ACCUSED Tex of raciallly discriminitory reditricting they used the census data to PROVE IT. Bo
March 10th, 2010 at 12:41 amI said it depends on how you define it, as I laid out the alternatives that I was willing to subscribe to, and you proceeded to give me your own definitions. I don’t need your definitions, you want me to have them. I don’t really care of you consider me Decent and … I forget what the other one was. Oh well.
And they’re extinct. GREAT example!
You refuse to see the fact that the only ways we’re connected is through money and defense. That is a fact. Anything else is your emotional bullcrap.
No, jobs don’t exist regardless of human input. If we all waited around for jobs to be created, we’d pretty much be in Greece’s situation right now. To say such would be to demand that nothing new will ever be created; that society has reached its peak and it’s all downhill from here. Just looking at the evidence of the past 50 years is enough evidence of the contrary to prove your assertion wrong to me.
Besides, if jobs exist regardless of who commands them, how does an economy create or lose jobs? Or even “create or save?”
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:43 amI wonder why Libertarians seem to think there would be a place for useless sociopaths in a society? Is it another manifestion of their religion that they think the magic free market dust would make the actual producers not practice some “enlightened self interest” on them?
March 10th, 2010 at 12:43 amJustice dept. was representing the people. Man, I can say it again, but I think it’ll have the same impact.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:44 amGive it up, galt…
You’re embarrassing yourself at this point.
Actually, you’re WAAAAAAAAAAAY past embarrassing.
You’re like that little kid in 2nd grade who was determined to prove he could spin faster than anybody else, even if he made himself sick and threw up all over himself.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:46 amgalt, did you attend “UC@Davis”?
March 10th, 2010 at 12:46 amThe Justice Department is part of the governemnt? Y/N
Or are you too busy insulting other posters and making strawmen arguemtns to answer a simple question?
March 10th, 2010 at 12:46 amThere’s no inconsistency there. I’m not violating a person’s liberty by employing them.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:46 amglamourdammerung says:
Because they’re narcissists.
People like galt are so infatuated w/ their own persona, they can’t begin to grasp that they’re not the center of the universe.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:48 amRight … but the ideal at stake here is that discrimination is wrong. There’s no contradiction; I’ve offered you boatloads of examples of how racial discrimination is wrong.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:48 amIt’s ok. One summer day in about 4 years (about a year after you graduate college), you’ll finally understand that it’s wrong to discriminate against anyone based on their race, and it’s not the government’s job to tell how many indian americans are included in the census.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:50 amAnd galt doesn’t see where it is the hate filled lies spewed by Beck that are destroying this country and not the people posting on this site or trying to live their lives.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:51 amgalt says:
Au contraire… there are laws regulating labor practices. When you hire an illegal, you are in violation of the pertinent law. You ARE NOT some imaginary, Libertarian utopia unto yourself. Hiring an ILLEGAL is against hte law.
W/ a mind like yours… I would have thought you’d have GRASPED that… they’re called ILLEGALS for a reason…
Give it up… you’re already covered w/ your own puke…
March 10th, 2010 at 12:51 amI haven’t relied on any logical fallacies to promote any arguments. All I’ve received are ad hominem attacks though, maybe you should look there.
Yes, the Justice dept is a part of our government. It’s pretty common for the Justice dept. to represent both sides of a case.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:52 am*sigh* another grammer error
I intended to write:
Oh galt I’m so sorry.
Here if this isn’t the right place for you it likely has a link to a group that can help you with your monther (or father).
March 10th, 2010 at 12:52 amhttp://www.schizophrenia.com/family/FAQoffspring.htm
Really? Show me where it’s illegal to employ someone from another country for any period of time. Please.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:53 amgalt says:
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Gosh… for someone who’s so convinced he’s right, you sure do resort to a lot of cheap insults…
March 10th, 2010 at 12:53 amIt is hysterical when the whitewingnutz act like they’re the ones who are against discrimination.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:54 amAnd galt doesn’t get embarrassed, obviously.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:54 amI didn’t intend an insult. I was just thinking that statistically, most people tend to grow more conservative after they’ve left college and start actually paying taxes.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:55 am/
You lie. See your many comments about “All I’ve argued is that racial discrimination is wrong.” whenver someone has proven an unrealated “point” you made wrong.
At least you finally admitted you were wrong instead of insulting someone for pointing out the logical disconnection in your claims.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:56 amgalt
You are both stupid AND a liar. You did not say it depends on how I define it. That COULD be inferred but it is NOT what you said THIS is what you said.
How do you define Humanity?
How do you define Decency?
Your definition YOU were willing to accept PROVED you had no concept of either. It is all about what is in it for YOU
a dictionary definition
1. Humans considered as a group; the human race.
2. The condition or quality of being human.
3. The quality of being humane; benevolence.
4. A humane characteristic, attribute, or act.
I see benevolence being human, humane. I dont see anything about trade or what the hell is in it for me.
Yeah they are extinct. Free market selfishness had nothing to do with their extinction since it DIDNT EXIST so that really doesnt address my point
You refuse to see the fact that the only ways we’re connected is through money and defense. That is a fact. Anything else is your emotional bullcrap
That isnt a FACT it is your delusion. Only those like YOU with no soul, no sense of what decency and humanity even ARE would say something so bone chillingly ignorant as the only connection we have with one another is through money. The Inca didnt even HAVE money NOR anything LIKE money and they had a society. One where everyone was fed in a part of the world where today thousands starve. My GOD you are so stupid and brainwashed it is painful
Ah YES. Jobs are created by the DEMAND for the service or product. If YOU werent there the DEMAND would have someone ELSE provide for that demand we CREATE jobs by allowing the context for the demand. Like Rural electrification provided the electricity in rural areas and created the DEMAND for electrical appliances FOR those rural people. YOU are NOTHING and if you didnt exist those people would STILL have jobs and someone ELSE would be pocketing the profits. I know you THINK you are special but you arent. You are just a selfish, soulless brainwashed cretin
March 10th, 2010 at 12:57 amIf a person claims they didn’t pay taxes while they went to college they didn’t really go to college.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:57 amThe Republic of Stupidity says: Hiring an ILLEGAL is against hte law.
Stop! You are in way over your head.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:57 amgalt, meander up #66; read, then discuss, if you must.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:57 amgalt
Of COURSE racial discrimination is wrong and YOU would demand we stop LOOKING at race entirely to make racial discrimination that much easier. It is a FOOLS argument.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:58 amI don’t know what universe you’re living in, but nobody’s offered proof of me being wrong about anything yet.
I never claimed the Justice dept. wasn’t part of government. I did say that it was the State’s burden to prove that there was no gerrymandering occurring. Please read, I know it’s hard.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:58 amgalt sez:
You are kidding, right?
Seriously… get some help w/ those personality issues..
You can have the thread all to yourself…
You’re… you’re… so AMAZING…
March 10th, 2010 at 12:58 amAnother strawman there, champ. You know you were clearly asked about illegal immigrants earlier.
March 10th, 2010 at 12:59 amgalt
You are just spewing stupidity and talking points as insults You are a MORON. I am VERY liberal and in my 50’s Chomsky is in his 70’s. STFU you are just turning into a pathetic punkass troll
March 10th, 2010 at 1:00 am“Seriously… get some help w/ those personality issues..”
Galts issuely likely stem from a mother with Schizophrenia who’s condition haunted her for most of her life and serverly scared his ability to relate to others at even the most basic level.
It isn’t his fault really though he does owe it to himself to seek out professional help and failing that anything he does to hurt other is his fault.
March 10th, 2010 at 1:02 amSlappyBeggerino
Stop begging for our pity. There is no pity here for you. We KNOW you are stupid. We KNOW you are pathetic but you mined the pity well dry. Go find some dignity and self respect somewhere
March 10th, 2010 at 1:03 amI just had to leave this before I go to bed:
You see the difference between an alien not authorized to work and employing someone from another country for a period of time, right?
I personally don’t care who I hire to do the job. I won’t knowingly hire an illegal alien. I will find the cheapest person to do the best job though.
March 10th, 2010 at 1:06 amOK, I have had enough fun slapping around the mentally challenged. You guys can try to educate the moron galt who claims both to own a business AND be a tutor. What a poser. Anyone that can be brainwashed by Rand is not only stupid but simply has no decency
March 10th, 2010 at 1:07 amYou’ve obviously just learned the term ’strawman argument’ and don’t grasp its meaning.
March 10th, 2010 at 1:07 amdebbi……shut up!
480…..I said STOP! You can quote any law from any state or fed manual, code or RC or whatever. To ASK a prospective employee IF they are in the country legally is unlawful. To ask them if they are a US citizen is unlawful. Please see your local state board of labor relations or whatever they call it in your state for acceptable application rules.
March 10th, 2010 at 1:08 amTo be claimed ‘decent’ by you would truly be an insult.
March 10th, 2010 at 1:08 amI just refered to Galt’s issues as “issuely” lol
Time for me to call it a night.
Galt chances are you will be banned before I’m back so I’m going to ask that you treat yourself well and see someone about the problems you’re suffering from.
Even Rand wouldn’t object to your treating yourself well.
March 10th, 2010 at 1:08 amThank you Mr. Massa,you showed class and what kind of person Becky really is a flaming pile of crap who fear mongers his audience….
March 10th, 2010 at 1:14 amSlappy what’s the purpose of the immigration laws if there is no way to enforce them?
March 10th, 2010 at 1:20 amgalt, you’re wrong about most things. For one you think we’re all college students and most of us are older than your parents. Idiot.
March 10th, 2010 at 1:26 am