‘Holder-in-Chief’ Coburn issues far-fetched threat against Democrats who switch votes in favor of health reform.
‘Holder-in-Chief’ Coburn issues far-fetched threat against Democrats who switch votes in favor of health reform.
During a GOP press conference today, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) issued a far-fetched threat against those Democrats who are considering switching their votes to support health reform. “If you voted no and you vote yes and you lose your election and you think any nomination to a federal position isn’t going to be held in the Senate, I’ve got news for you, it’s going to be held,” Coburn said. Calling Coburn the “holder-in-chief,” Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) said, “I look forward to those holds.” Watch it:
To be clear, Coburn — who has placed holds on everything from veterans benefits bills to sanctions against a mass-murdering African militia — is targeting the small number of Democrats who switch their votes, and then are subsequently defeated, and later nominated by President Obama for a federal appointment. In other words, Coburn’s threat pertains to a highly improbable event. “There is no limit to what the other side will do to protect the insurance companies,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi said.
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Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) issued a far-fetched threat against those Democrats who are considering switching their votes to support health reform.
Whats that smell>>>> oh yes desperation.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:38 pmTODAY’S REPUBLICANS ARE AMERICA’S ENEMY WITHIN
Republicans ARE practicing seditious DEMAGOGUERY and anti-democracy OBSTRUCTIONISM intended to destabilize our economy for purposes of political exploitation.
Republicans AREN’T making a sincere effort to STOP the bleeding THEIR incompetent leadership and failed policies created. Instead, they’re using inflammatory lies and accusations as a smokescreen to conceal their subversive agenda, which is to cause President Obama and America to fail so they can blame Democrats for the consequences of THEIR calamitous mismanagement.
Republicans ARE preposterously professing that THEIR disgraceful political WHORING had nothing to do with the banking, real estate, stock market and employment catastrophes that resulted.
Republicans ARE trying to hamstring Democrats to prevent them from repairing the damage caused during a Republican presidency that was irresponsibly enabled by Republican Senators and Representatives.
Republicans ARE offering ridiculous arguments meant solely to disrupt and prevent progressive change. They’d rather divide America and create political gridlock than endure the political consequences of effective Democratic governance.
Republicans AREN’T the LOYAL OPPOSITION; they ARE the ENEMY WITHIN whose mercenary personal priorities have eroded their moral and ethical standards to the point that duplicity and betrayal are their preferred modus operandi.
It’s one thing to advocate their conservative beliefs; it’s another thing entirely to willfully sabotage America’s government because a successful Democratic presidency would not be vulnerable to the greed, fears and hatreds that have produced and sustained the radical Republican anti-government corporatism and anti-Christian faux theocracies that are poisoning and crippling American society.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:38 pmHow daring, to make threats about those things which are so unlikely. This man is brave.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:39 pmSure will help the general push toward changing the Senate rules at the beginning of the next session…. keep on raving, piggies, the clock is turning….
March 18th, 2010 at 3:39 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tommy Casaba says:
When America needed a friend in her time of need, Tom Coburn held out his hand…
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Please do tell, how?
March 18th, 2010 at 3:41 pmTommy Casaba says:
March 18th, 2010 at 3:42 pmWhen America needed a friend in her time of need, Tom Coburn held out his hand…
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And the American people spit in it and turned away from that hack.
Wow.
Wait… if offering concessions is a ‘bribe’ is withhold a job for political reasons a ‘threat’ that also needs to be investigated?
Where does SC’s Attorney General come down on this?
March 18th, 2010 at 3:42 pmI would be ashamed to let not only the American people but the world know how little I felt about the value of human life, but as Rachel Maddow has shown so well, they have no shame. Family Values and pro-life my @ss. STFU.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:42 pm“A monkey could be a doctor. I’m not kidding.”
March 18th, 2010 at 3:42 pm— Eddie Henderson, M.D. and noted jazz trumpeter
American “democracy” at its finest. This is a disgrace.
All the more reason why we need a parliamentary style system. With proportional representation in the lower house. And an upper house that has extremely little power.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:42 pmcoburn and gingrey they must think they will get into power again.
you can block all you want, it will NOT help you at all. if you side is LUCKY you may pick up 10 seats in the house and 2 in the senate.
So stump your feet, pick your noise and keep your eyes wide shut, maybe click your heels together.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:43 pmDr. No is just practicing strongarm tactics for his next career;
March 18th, 2010 at 3:46 pmcorporate healthcare lobbyist.
hold all you want. just don’t be surprised when a mass od recess appointments occur
March 18th, 2010 at 3:46 pmGingrey needs to be sent to the dunce corner. The fool has nothing to do with approving presidential appointments, so his “looking forward” to something means nothing in his case. and besides, he’s a lousy cheerleader.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:46 pmis he threatening elected members of congress from voting in line with their beliefs or in line with the districts that elected them?
Is he king?
March 18th, 2010 at 3:49 pmTommy Casaba says:
When America needed a friend in her time of need, Tom Coburn held out his hand…
You’re retarded, aren’t you?
March 18th, 2010 at 3:50 pmBozo The Neoclown says:
hold all you want. just don’t be surprised when a mass od recess appointments occur
Has Obama done any recess appointments yet? If he hasn’t it is time he did. Do a recess appointment for all of his nominees that have been held up for more than 6 months. At the beginning of the next session of congress, tell the Majority Leader that he has 6 months to get the nominations through, otherwise there will be a mass recess appointment for all of them.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:50 pmTommy Casaba says: welcome newbie, well newbie name.
So are you willing to stand up for your self and become the leader your cult troll domain needs?
I will first give you this info, and we shall see if you have the intestinal fortitude to be a man/woman?
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but you should know that other cult troll who though they were real people have not been able to obtain the fortitude to do this.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:50 pmRepublicans protect cancer causing tobacco companies, land mine manufacturers, mountain top mining companies, and corporate polluters as well. It’s what a Republican does for a living.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:51 pmI tihnk it was Robin Williams talking about British bobbies:
‘Stop! Or I’ll yell ‘Stop!’ again!’
They’re already holding every nomination and everything else.
What’s new?
March 18th, 2010 at 3:52 pmTommy Casaba says:
When America needed a friend in her time of need, Tom Coburn held out his hand…punched the statue of liberty in the face and then sold our freedom to the saudis over at pox.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:52 pmdelafiel–I agree. They sell destruction of the planet and human death to the highest bidders.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:53 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Senator Coburn must think he never has to get re-elected to keep his seat.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:55 pmTommy Casaba says:
When America needed a friend in her time of need, Tom Coburn held out his hand
so which branch of the services did this moron belong to? what time of need are you talking about?
March 18th, 2010 at 3:55 pmteapat,
March 18th, 2010 at 3:56 pmwhat’s your suggestions for healthcare reform? please be specific and how your suggestions will help alleviate the problem.
Threats, strongarm tactics–these are the last resorts of desperate fools. Such be the Republiwonts.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:56 pm@27
I am going to go way out on a limb here and say “more capitalism; less regulation.”
March 18th, 2010 at 3:57 pmteapat says:@24
LOL>>> seeing you have entirely no creditability at all please try to keep you comments shorter and well at lease some what to the topic.
but here just in case you really do want to be a productive person here in the USA.
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March 18th, 2010 at 3:58 pmSteven Alan Hassan, cult counselor and mind control expert is a Nationally Certified Counselor and licensed Mental Health Counselor and has developed a breakthrough approach to help loved ones rescue cult mind control victims. He is a former member of the Moon cult. Ex-cult members and others seek him out for specialized counseling to help them recover from symptoms other mental health professionals are not trained to address.
http://www.freedomofmind.com/
TheVeritableBuddhist says:
@27
I am going to go way out on a limb here and say “more capitalism; less regulation.”
And don’t forget “personal responsibility”…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:59 pmClose. He’s from Oklahoma. The state that almost passed the Scarlet Letter abortion law.
Coburn’s up for re-election in November. And he’ll win by a good 10+ points. Sad, but true.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:59 pmThe President can do recess appointments just like Bolton was done by Bush. It is time for the President to use his office to tell the American people that the Republicans have shut down the legislative process. This is not a fight the Republicans can win when they refuse to allow votes. Sen. Coburn and the Republicans should also consider that these obstruction tactics will eventually be used by Dems with a Republican president and Congress.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:00 pm@31
Oh yeah; except responsibility from the insurance companies. We can’t hold them to being responsible, especially when it cuts into their profits at the expense of people’s lives. That simply won’t do. /snark
March 18th, 2010 at 4:01 pmmajii says:
March 18th, 2010 at 4:01 pmdelafiel–I agree. They sell destruction of the planet and human death to the highest bidders.
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And the bastards do it with a smile on their faces. And they claim to be pro-life…ugh.
@24–teabrat–You have a nerve to talk after saying nothing about the trillion plus spent in Iraq, with $80 billion MIA. The CBO estimate for the cost of the Iraq War was not exact. The costs have exceeded the estimate.
The main difference between the Iraq War and the HCR bill is that the average American finally gets something in exchange for paying taxes. The only thing we got from spending on the Iraq War was “Mission Accomplished, more debt, and a “warm” fuzzy feeling of “bringing democracy to the Iraqi people.” I need to go puke now.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:01 pmThe southern white male christo-fascist movement marches on.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:02 pm@36
Let’s not forget that the bailout programs have come out $200B UNDER budget. So obviously the government can’t do *anything* right. /snark.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:03 pmfixbone says:
is he threatening elected members of congress from voting in line with their beliefs or in line with the districts that elected them?
Is he king?
Worse
March 18th, 2010 at 4:03 pmHe’s a M.D., church deacon, and a C-Street Senator.
He has the the Jesus complex from hell.
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i guess this means “teapt” is as bankrupt on ideas as his political party. they seem to be real good at beyotching and neighsaying.
coming up with solutions…not so much
March 18th, 2010 at 4:03 pmTheVeritableBuddhist says:
@36
Let’s not forget that the bailout programs have come out $200B UNDER budget. So obviously the government can’t do *anything* right. /snark.
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March 18th, 2010 at 4:04 pmRepublicans: “Put us in office and we will prove it!”
@#28–TheVeritableBuddhist–What you describe sounds like the actions of thugs. But, wait, isn’t thug the label the conservatives always use to refer to President Obama who has never acted in this manner?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:04 pmTheVeritableBuddhist says:
@31
Oh yeah; except responsibility from the insurance companies. We can’t hold them to being responsible, especially when it cuts into their profits at the expense of people’s lives. That simply won’t do. /snark
Right, the insurance companies have the “responsibility” to make as much profit as possible, and individuals have the “responsibility” not to get sick or injured. See how that works? :/
March 18th, 2010 at 4:04 pmI’m surprised Coburn didn’t hold his breath and stomp his feet. He threw a classic temper tantrum. Better than most three year olds.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:05 pm@43
Totally. I actually understand. Double standards. Of course!!!
When Republicans use reconciliation=good
Democrats use reconciliation=bad
Republicans threaten filibuster=good
Democrats threaten filibuster=bad
Republicans spend massive amounts of $ (for the wealthy)=good
Democrats spend massive amounts of $ (for the poor)=bad
I should have guessed.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:06 pmzxbe says:
I’m surprised Coburn didn’t hold his breath and stomp his feet. He threw a classic temper tantrum. Better than most three year olds.
He should be better, he has 59 years more experience than a 3 year old.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:07 pm@42
Republicans are definitely more “thuggish” than the Obama administration. But, again, it comes down to double standards. Even the trolls here show us how that is done.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:07 pmteapat says:
The CBO report is based on a 10 year projection where there is only 6 years of outlays but 10 years of taxes. And then we have to “trust” that the government won’t spend the money on anything but health care.
It doesn’t matter – Health Care Reform is going to be passed, and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Don’t like it? Tough sh!t.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:08 pmOT
Republican Campaign Committee Subpoenaed In Ensign Probe
smiling, well lets see how far this goes. Not sure but dont think he`s up for re-election this year. if not thats a shame, as i think he is in worst shape then harry.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:09 pmteapot has gone to plagerizing himself…..
March 18th, 2010 at 4:10 pmLeft unsaid: If you vote against the HCR bill, lose your election and get nominated for a federal job Coburn will still put a hold on your nomination. It’s not as if he needs a good reason.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:10 pmSen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) – Hurting Americans because he can.
Dirtbag.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:11 pmFor a doctor he sure has abondoned his HYPOCRATIC(HYPOCRITIC) OATH…..
March 18th, 2010 at 4:13 pmFritz (God Told Me To Hate Conservatives) says:
It doesn’t matter – Health Care Reform is going to be passed, and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Don’t like it? Tough sh!t.
See thats their problem, their use to the diarrhea from the lips of there px chicken-hawked hero`s and now with no teeth there meals a full of that tough sh!t.
as they like to let there humming bird mines overload there alligator ass
March 18th, 2010 at 4:14 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
or put another way
there usually have a bad case of constipation of the brain and diarrhea of the lips.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:17 pmHYPOCRATIC of a doctor vs the HYPOCRITC oath as a senator,and the scum bag chose to be a HYPOCRITE for $$$$$$,so sad!!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:18 pm@55 F&F for being a typical cult troll.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hasn’t Coburn “held” virtually all of Obama’s nominees anyways? At least until he is actually faced with the prospect of having to stand there and filibuster past cocktail hour.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:20 pm@60
Much like the trolls here: all threats and no balls.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:21 pmteapat,
March 18th, 2010 at 4:22 pmI am still waiting for you to enlighten us in terms of what you think will fix the healthcare system in this country and why the repukeliscums ignored the problem for eight years?
teapat says:
The Dems will not be able to muster the votes. The bill won’t pass.
Sure it will.
You and your leaders lose again, and you’ll continue to lose, over and over.
HEALTH CARE REFORM! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:22 pmThis entire “threat” is also predicated on the notion that Coburn won’t lose his election… with tactics like this, that seems less and less likely.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:23 pmCiting Michelle Malkin’s website is always a big clue……
March 18th, 2010 at 4:23 pmI would much rather pay for healthcare in this country than the destruction of other countries.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:23 pmteapatsy is bankrupt of ideas, just as i suspected.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:24 pm“Citing Michelle Malkin’s website is always a big clue……”
you mean the anchorbaby michelle myiloveabigdingdong malkin? the rabid pekinese of pox news?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:25 pmI am going to go way out on a limb here and say “more capitalism; less regulation.”
And don’t forget “personal responsibility”…
And “economic freedom”. That’s another popular selection from Batshit-crazy Shelley Bachmann’s “random phrase generator”.
p.s. — Coburn’s threat is moot. Oklahoma will secede from the Union next year. At best, Little Tommy will be placing holds on appointed judges and officials in Mexico by this time next year.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:25 pmI would love to see the old fashioned filibuster at work…..while I sip on an old fashion or two and ROTFL as Dr./Sen Coburn regales us on his version of Obamacare and it’s socialistic tendencies towards communistic Fascism,LOL.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:25 pm@59
you really think so?
lets make a bet.
that if this dont past you can come here and dance shout and say i told you so.
but went it passes and it will by more then what you thinking.
you and your cult trolls (all your names) come here and say your sorry then just leave.
or better yet went you lose and you will, how about going here and getting that help you all really really really need.
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ok deal.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:25 pmOT
Christiane Amanpour has been named the anchor of ABC’s Sunday morning public affairs program, “This Week.”
March 18th, 2010 at 4:27 pmI would rather receive the healthcare I’m paying for than have my premiums spent on lobbyist and corporate propaganda.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:28 pmso lemmie get this straight:
1) teapatsy is bankrupt of ideas
2) teapatsy is plaigarising from the rabid pekinese malkin
3) teapasty actually paid her rabid ass to fread the shit she posts on her website.
and he expects us to take him seriously?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:31 pmI’d rather have my money go towards actual health care than towards more Big Government red tape designed to provide more power to those in power. The Feds can’t even handle veterans health care well. How are they going to handle the whole country?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:32 pmokie dokie@73,I’m with you on that,single payer for all and no lobbyist involved whatsoever.I for one can’t put a dollar value on a human life,buthe trolls sure can.When this bill passes it will kick us towards soclialized Medicine just like our veterans have or medicare that I have been paying into for 35 years.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:32 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
“The Feds can’t even handle veterans health care well”
i suppose you have a link to prove that right?
“How are they going to handle the whole country?”
March 18th, 2010 at 4:34 pmask the over 65 set if they like their medicare. in fact, i think you should strongly encourage your local repukeliscum politican to run on the “i’ll abolish medicare” platform
oohhhh, lookie,
March 18th, 2010 at 4:35 pmfake “dr” hunt is giving “mr malpractice” himself coburn props.
how touching
The Feds can’t even handle veterans health care well. How are they going to handle the whole country?
Lying is second nature for you, isn’t it?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:36 pm“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
Yep, the patriot act is at the top of the list of government tyranny.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:36 pm“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
Yay you know how to cut and paste from google!!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:36 pmYou do know that jefferson was very much opposed to corporate influence in governing, right?
And I think he’s right about King Obama and Queen Pelosi offering defeated democrats cush fed jobs when the voters send them packing.
Well, that settles it.
Any evidence? No? Why am I not surprised?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:37 pm@81 I was gonna say that too but you beat me to it, Lefty!!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:37 pmWhen elected officials get up and make bullying school yard threats to the opposition, you know that all is lost. About the only thing Coburn didn’t do is threaten their children as well. Boy, they sure seem to love their @ss-hats in Oklahoma.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:38 pmquestioning everything sounds like tom tancrybaby the day he stormed off the ed schultz show. remember that?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:38 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlPnb4Ovdl8
barfly says:
The Feds can’t even handle veterans health care well. How are they going to handle the whole country?
Lying is second nature for you, isn’t it?
About the only think wrong with veterans health care is that it is underfunded. If the government would fund it to the level our veterans deserve, it would be the best medical system in the world.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:38 pmQuestioningEverything says:drhunt1 says:
so either one (or same) of you want to take the bet i have made to your other cult troll new name teapat?
either way you all need to stand up get some intestinal fortitude and be a man/woman. and fight for your sanity and well life.
so what you say.
is it a bet?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:38 pmAs a constituent of Coburns, drhunt, I assure you that he has no respect, let alone fear, of the people he is paid to represent.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:38 pmdrhunt1,
March 18th, 2010 at 4:38 pmI liked you better under your 3 or 4 other SN’s.
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
@81 I was gonna say that too but you beat me to it, Lefty!!
Ya gotta have quicker fingers :D
March 18th, 2010 at 4:39 pmDr. Tom Coburn = Dr. DIE QUICKLY
March 18th, 2010 at 4:39 pm“drhunt1,
March 18th, 2010 at 4:39 pmI liked you better under your 3 or 4 other SN’s.”
miraculously enough, all on the same thread!
Ya gotta have quicker fingers :D
As well as a quicker brain :D
March 18th, 2010 at 4:40 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Ya gotta have quicker fingers :D
As well as a quicker brain :D
You have the advantage there!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:41 pmhey fake “dr” hunt,
March 18th, 2010 at 4:41 pmmaybe you can clear this up for us.
where does refusing to treat the uninsured fall under “first, do no harm”?
SoapBox says:
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Dr. Tom Coburn = Dr. DIE QUICKLY
At least according to Grayson…
March 18th, 2010 at 4:41 pmThe only thing effing up Medicare is Bush’s part D,
March 18th, 2010 at 4:41 pmthe corporate gift that keeps on giving.
drhunt1 says: @77
This is just another post that does not address the substance and spews another platitude. That is why no one here takes you serious.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:41 pmThe only way to drop prices is through competition. Any regulations that limit competition or restrict smaller insurance companies should be immediately repealed. Also, health insurance should be allowed to be purchased across state lines. Another reform meausre would be to limit health insurance to major illnesses. Like every other type of insurance, health insurance should be for unforseen big dollar costs. Car insurance is for accidents, home insurance is for fires, health insurance should be for major illnesses. Actuaries would then be able to forecast based on risk. Premiums would decrease because the chances of people getting major illnesses is much less. The current system rewards people for driving up costs. Because people with insurance tend to go to the doctor’s more often, the premiums obviously increase because the insurance companies know that they’ll have to spend more. The government covering every citizen so they can go to the doctor for free everytime they have a cold is ridiculous. Tort reform should also be considered. Malpractice insurance for the medical industry is just insane. There are so many options available to be tested rather than just the knee-jerk reaction of establishing a tremendous new entitlement program.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:41 pmThe problem is right now, that the government does NOT fear the people…
And Coburn holding appointments up is sure to frighten the Government… jeebuz.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:42 pmBozo The Neoclown says:
“drhunt1,
I liked you better under your 3 or 4 other SN’s.”
miraculously enough, all on the same thread!
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Just wait till Hunt starts talking to himself. :D
Bonus points if invites on of the trolls to a gun show.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:42 pmIt’s funny that the stupid troll should bring that up. A close friend of mine is currently being treated at the local VA hospital and, frankly, I’m impressed. I’ve spent enough time in the waiting room to witness the efficiency with which they get the patients in and out. The food isn’t too bad. They even turn off half the lights in the hallways on weekends to cut energy bills. From what I can see it’s a slick operation with dedicated professionals who excel at their jobs.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:43 pm@100
March 18th, 2010 at 4:45 pm*head hits keyboard*
Are you effin serious? Removing regulations would improve competition? Hon, having regulations on insurance is the only reason we have what competition we have today…Otherwise, one company could buy up all the rest of them and become a monopoly for the insurance market…Do you want to shitcan consumers as well? Regulations help protect consumers from unfair insurance pratices and fraud..
teapatsy,
March 18th, 2010 at 4:45 pmif i wanted to read anything michelle milovetobegangbanged malkin’s written, i would go over to her shitty site.
*typo: one*
Troll,
March 18th, 2010 at 4:45 pmhttp://washingtonindependent.com/55535/tort-reform-unlikely-to-cut-health-care-costs
OT
March 18th, 2010 at 4:46 pmThe National Republican Senatorial Committee has been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury looking into the aftermath of Nevada Republican Sen. John Ensign’s extramarital affair with a staffer.
pete says:
It’s funny that the stupid troll should bring that up. A close friend of mine is currently being treated at the local VA hospital and, frankly, I’m impressed. I’ve spent enough time in the waiting room to witness the efficiency with which they get the patients in and out. The food isn’t too bad. They even turn off half the lights in the hallways on weekends to cut energy bills. From what I can see it’s a slick operation with dedicated professionals who excel at their jobs.
That is my experience as well. I have taken a friend over to the local VA hospital when he couldn’t get a ride from his family and I was shocked at the number of people in the waiting room, and how fast they are seen.
What is even more impressive is the courtesy and respect that they are given. The staff at that VA hospital seems to genuinely care about their work, and the patients.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:47 pmLook at the group of scared bullies trying to make threats. What a bunch of pathetic children these scumbags have become. I will never vote for another Republican as long as I live. EVER.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:47 pmJeebus teapartypatsy is dumb!!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:47 pmI would have thought that the 59,000 Catholic nuns would have fake dr grunt sitting in the corner wearing a dunce hat.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:47 pmRegulations help protect consumers from unfair insurance pratices and fraud..
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Much of the regulation is lobbied for by the big insurance companies as a way to restrict competition.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:47 pmuch of the regulation is lobbied for by the big insurance companies as a way to restrict competition.
Proof please…
March 18th, 2010 at 4:48 pmAt least we know where you bstand on this issue, you little insurance company minion!!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:50 pm“Much of the regulation is lobbied for by the big insurance companies as a way to restrict competition.”
so, teapatsy, what did the repukeliscums do to remedy this sitaution all those years they controlled both houses of congress and the presidency?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:50 pmteapat says:
Regulations help protect consumers from unfair insurance pratices and fraud..
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Much of the regulation is lobbied for by the big insurance companies as a way to restrict competition.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:50 pm–
[citation seriously f***ing needed]
Public option is the only way to give these greedy monopolies any real competition. What are they afraid of, if they are so darn good?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:50 pm@112
March 18th, 2010 at 4:51 pmWhile your premise is a good point, I just have one question..
Why the heck would the insurance industry lobby against it’s own self-interest?
jb says:
I would have thought that the 59,000 Catholic nuns would have fake dr grunt sitting in the corner wearing a dunce hat.
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*digs through desk drawers for a sharpie, grabs Hunts Klan cap and writes “DUNCE” on it*
There ya go.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:52 pmWe all hate that insurance companies will be able to broaden their base with 31 million more people, but the offset for that is that 31 million more will have coverage that cannot be dropped or denied, and increase in premiums will have to be applied for before being approved.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:52 pmThat insurance companies remain in play is because that is the system that we have now.
I hope that over time, we will gradually modify these new rules to gradually remove insurance companies from the mix and allow them to be the avenue through which claims are processed, but they don’t have control over anything.
teapot,I agree with you up to the word competition,after that I disagree because states will not pass any type of legislation concerning competition in any insurance industry,the industry needs to be not for profit because It’s Wall St that is driving up the stock through the Medical cost ratio,No gov’t option is free we pay fr it with our taxes so it’s not for free,Tort reform was Passed in Texas a few years ago and guess what,it didn’t do anything in fact insurance has gone in Texas and they have a very high uninsured populace.Single payer for all, I would rather pay higher taxes that the high premiums I pay now with my $2500 deductible and $5000 max out of pocket a year with it’s yearly and lifetime caps.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:53 pmPublic option is the only way to give these greedy monopolies any real competition. What are they afraid of, if they are so darn good?
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Public option isn’t real competition. Government has the advantage and will drive out the private companies leaving only one provider.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:54 pmPublic option isn’t real competition. Government has the advantage and will drive out the private companies leaving only one provider.
*shakes head sadly* this one’s hopeless..
March 18th, 2010 at 4:55 pmUnfettered competition is why the cost of cars has gone down dramatically in recent…
Wait a minute!
Well, surly it’s the reason that energy costs are lower than…
Wait another minute!!
Obviously, allowing the banks to operate across state lines has resulted in a cheap and healthy investment…
Wait a phucking hour!!!
The sad fact is that when humans are unregulated they follow their greed rather than any higher standard. They even let greed trump self-preservation.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:55 pmDrive out the private companies. Sounds good to me. What useful purpose do they serve. Bunch of greedy paper shufflers.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:56 pmI’ll miss insurance companies as much as I miss Cheney as VP.
‘Miss my yet’?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:57 pmDr. Coburn is a really bright guy…as a former private business owner as a practicing OB/Gyn, he has more executive experience than BO. I was wondering why he maintained such a seemingly calm disposition throughout the debate on health care reform…maybe now he’s ready to take the gloves off.
And I think he’s right about King Obama and Queen Pelosi offering defeated democrats cush fed jobs when the voters send them packing.
The problem is right now, that the government does NOT fear the people…
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
March 18th, 2010 at 4:57 pmIt sounds like this troll graduated with high honors from The Rush Limbaugh Institute of Idiocy!!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:57 pmUnfettered competition is why the cost of cars has gone down dramatically in recent…
Wait a minute!
Well, surly it’s the reason that energy costs are lower than…
Wait another minute!!
Obviously, allowing the banks to operate across state lines has resulted in a cheap and healthy investment…
Wait a phucking hour!!!
The sad fact is that when humans are unregulated they follow their greed rather than any higher standard. They even let greed trump self-preservation.
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Funny that you mentioned all heavily regulated industries. Could it be that the costs of compliance are passed off to the consumer?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:58 pminnit cute,
March 18th, 2010 at 4:58 pmpsuusyboy drKunt is posting reruns.
The only way to drop prices is through competition.
Let me help you out here, peabrain. There is no prohibition on competition in the soon-to-be-law health care reform bill. In fact, it is just the opposite.
The bill will create a more uniform and orderly market. It will level the playing field. Health insurers will no longer “compete” based upon shady practices such as anti-selection, price-shadowing, questionable underwriting procedures, rescissions and coverage restrictions.
No. When customers have choices via insurance exchanges, there will finally actually be competitive forces at work. Insurers will actually have to attract customers through premium differentials, customer satisfaction reputation and service.
You are obviously the gullible, weak intellect, low-information type who has seized upon the pablum that BeckerHead, FoxSnooze, Chinless Mitch, Limpballs, Little Seanie Vanity and others spoon out. In other words, cupcake, you are part of the problem; not part of the solution.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:58 pm127:
March 18th, 2010 at 4:59 pmHOUSTON, WE HAVE AN IDIOT!!
teapot,That’s the competition we are talking about you either compete or get out of business,like I said before you can’t put a price on life.Competition will be down cost exponentially and we the CEO’s like Steven Helmsly of UHC will have to do with a few less millon in his check book.compatition will also make the industry much better as a whole and will bring about better preventative care and wellness care.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:59 pmDr Dunce needs about 59,000 raps with the ruler.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:59 pmteapat says:@100
You are regurgitating all the conservative talking points that have been discussed in great detail on many threads on this site. Don’t expect us to take your arguments serious when you use a post for reciting a litany of propaganda.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:00 pm“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
fake “dr” Kunt, you do realise thomas jefferson founded the democratic party. you’re reduced to quoting democrats to prove your point?
March 18th, 2010 at 5:00 pmBBBWBWWASAASASAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAH
Aww I must’ve hit a nerve on one of our trolls in this thread today!!
March 18th, 2010 at 5:00 pm“Dr Dunce needs about 59,000 raps with the ruler.”
on his nuts so he can’t reproduce
March 18th, 2010 at 5:01 pm@112
While your premise is a good point, I just have one question..
Why the heck would the insurance industry lobby against it’s own self-interest?
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The big companies in all industries benefit from government regulation because the smaller companies can rarely afford the costs to comply and can not pass of the costs to their customers. Therefore, they fold and its less competition for the big firms.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:01 pm@139 Can you explain in in a little more detail please?
March 18th, 2010 at 5:02 pmPretty amazing reading these posts…all vilifying the insurance companies. One could come to only ONE conclusion, and that is you’re a bunch of losers that have never earned enough to purchase private insurance, or you’re worthless to the companies you DO work for so they haven’t offered you benefits. Does that sound plausible? I think so…
March 18th, 2010 at 5:04 pmBozo The Neoclown says:
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“Dr Dunce needs about 59,000 raps with the ruler.”
on his nuts so he can’t reproduce
I shudder to think of the possibility of this troll ever being capable of reproducing..
March 18th, 2010 at 5:04 pmoohhh lookie, fake “dr” Kunt, the one who pretends to be a doctor on the internets is calling us losers.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:05 pmteapot@129,now your making your case for deregulation and free market capitalism, deregulation,lack of gov’t control when it comes to monopolies in any industry and repealing much of the finacial industry has gotten in this deep shit hole and you want more of the same,WHY?Shwo me some criable works form non re-pukes think tanks that say regulations make us pay more for gas to heat our homes with,electrcity, and others insudtry’s and I’ll prove to you that most people are willing to pay for regulations because GREED is a very powerful thing.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:05 pmfake “dr” Kunt,
i have damn good healthcare insurance. my co-pay for meds went up 40% this year. I am tired of my premiums going up to pay for the uninsured whose primary healthcare provider is the emergency room,.
compredes, shithead?
March 18th, 2010 at 5:06 pm@141
March 18th, 2010 at 5:06 pmThe reason I refused to join the GOP was the “I’ve got mine, so screw you” mentality..I see that I made a smart choice…
Bozo the neoclown,Now you did it,Dr hunt is going to play the illegal immigrant card now….
March 18th, 2010 at 5:08 pmfake “dr” Kunt is an illegal immigrant?
March 18th, 2010 at 5:08 pm@141 Yes my family has always had good insurance, but I know that there are people out there who aren’t as lucky as my family has been and either have expenive coverage or no coverage at all. Do you think it’s right for some to have insurance and some having to go without?
March 18th, 2010 at 5:09 pmdrhunt1 says:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:09 pmzzz…
Bozo the clown-I can imagine that your psychotropic drugs and anti-depressants would cost a bundle. Just think…when Obamacare passes, some bureaucrat in Washington is going to decide your meds are too expensive and that they just can’t afford you anymore….they will politely tell you to “take one for the team”.
That is, if your family doesn’t “do it” first.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:10 pmlinzloo@149,Yes they do think it’s ok for some to go out because they can put a price on a person’s life….
March 18th, 2010 at 5:11 pmMy family has also had to argue with BCBS at times to get them to cover stuff that I need like my ADD medication as well as visits to my psychiatrist, etc..
March 18th, 2010 at 5:12 pmBozo the neoclown I was wrong,dr.Kunt played the death panel card!Well it was worth the try!
March 18th, 2010 at 5:13 pmchristopher wiwi says:
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linzloo@149,Yes they do think it’s ok for some to go out because they can put a price on a person’s life….
That’s why I decided to never ever join the GOP..
March 18th, 2010 at 5:13 pmThey care waaay too much about money and not enough about people..
“bureaucrat in Washington is going to decide your meds are too expensive and that they just can’t afford you anymore”
as oppossed to those compassionate bureaucrats at my insurance company who hiked my rates by 40%?
that’s a hoot, fake “dr” Kunt
March 18th, 2010 at 5:14 pmOk who voted me down @ 153 and 155?
March 18th, 2010 at 5:15 pmi love it how fake “dr” Kunt takes that huge leap of logic thinking if there’s a public option i will immediately sign up for it. retard.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:15 pmdrhunt1 says:
Bozo the clown-I can imagine that your psychotropic drugs and anti-depressants would cost a bundle. Just think…when Obamacare passes, some bureaucrat in Washington is going to decide your meds are too expensive and that they just can’t afford you anymore….they will politely tell you to “take one for the team”.
That is, if your family doesn’t “do it” first.
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Hunt,
The bureaucrats in the pharmaceutical companies already want me to pay nearly $400 bucks for less than a 30 days supply for the non-generic version of trileptal. Now I’m stuck with a less effective generic called oxcarbazepine.
And before you get into the shit about how much I make…I’m doing better than a lot of people. I’m making $28 an hour and can afford health insurance…but I’ve been rejected because of my epilepsy.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:15 pmHell…is everyone here on medication? ADD, Seizure disorders, depression…wtf else?
It’s like visiting the freakin’ psych ward coming here!
Wow! Hope and Change on steroids?
Sad…truly sad.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:15 pmThe only competition in the health insurance industry as it stands right now is a race to get more people paying higher premiums while limiting the amount of payouts. Health care should NOT be a competition where the end user is the loser. If you ignorant corporists don’t see this then you need to get in touch with your inner humanity.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:17 pm@158 That’s why we need HCR!
March 18th, 2010 at 5:17 pmDr Kunt,Unlike you GOOPers we are actual people who get sick and guys like you are just SHEEPLE who take in the REAR!!!!!
March 18th, 2010 at 5:18 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Ok who voted me down @ 153 and 155?
I’ve noticed you asking this question before and I have to wonder (a) why you care and (b) whether you expect a response? Or maybe those are out of order. Don’t worry about it.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:18 pmdrhunt1 says:
Hell…is everyone here on medication? ADD, Seizure disorders, depression…wtf else?
It’s like visiting the freakin’ psych ward coming here!
Wow! Hope and Change on steroids?
Sad…truly sad.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:18 pm–
You know what Hunt…if I could just get rid of my epilepsy I would in a heart beat. Seriously f**k you for mocking others medical conditions.
drhunt1 says:
So other the you are the worthless one here hell tits on a bore hog has more use then you under this state of mine you have. I know you were programmed to be this way.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:19 pmSo if there still anything left of your once normal mine use it.
You can get help. you can see the light, you can stand and tell your handlers to F-off. but the key here is YOU and only you can help your self. We can not help here, only if you want it. Its kinda like a druggie you have to want to kick the habit.
These conservative talking points by the various posters are merely to obfuscate the real issue in the health care debate. The real issue is whether we should pass the legislation to cover many of the uninsured. The Republican proposals do very little to bring affordable insurance to those that are already insured and the proposals do very little to cover the uninsured. All the Republican proposals together do not resolve the health care system problems; they are a bandaid to stall a resolution of these problems. This is typical strategy for the Republicans to let problems fester until we are forced to deal with the issue. They are treating health care like the infrastructure and postponing the solutions in the name of fiscal policy which is bogus. There will never be a right time or a domestic program that Republicans will advocate.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:19 pmfake dr hunt: Bozo the clown-I can imagine that your psychotropic drugs and anti-depressants would cost a bundle. Just think…when Obamacare passes, some bureaucrat in Washington is going to decide your meds are too expensive and that they just can’t afford you anymore….they will politely tell you to “take one for the team”.
Yes, of course. Everyone is much better off when someone whose primary motivation is profit is in the position to make those decisions. I see you’re back in the tool shed.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:20 pmBizzaro,Dr Kunt has no heart so therefore no feelings…..
March 18th, 2010 at 5:20 pmi love it how fake “dr” Kunt assumes all medication is for depression or psychosis.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:20 pmhe must be a boo-hoo glenda becky junky
So it was drhunt in the video yesterday. Figures.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:21 pmbizarro-I defy you to take the trileptal to a chemist and have him discern the difference between it and the generic…they’re the same drug. You, perhaps, are being persuaded by what you read and the placebo effect?
March 18th, 2010 at 5:21 pmchristopher wiwi says:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:22 pmBizzaro,Dr Kunt has no heart so therefore no feelings…..
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I know. Someone should beat some sense into his thick skull. Preferably with a crowbar.
drhunt1 says:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:24 pmbizarro-I defy you to take the trileptal to a chemist and have him discern the difference between it and the generic…they’re the same drug. You, perhaps, are being persuaded by what you read and the placebo effect?
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I’ll take the word of my neurologist over yours Hunt.
Bizzaro,I agree, but we promised no violence we don’t want to stoop to the Tee Baggers level of indignation as we saw in the video where they threw money at the man who has parkinson’s, that is a new low in the sad commentary of the GOOPers and the almighty dollar they covet…….
March 18th, 2010 at 5:26 pmchristopher wiwi says:
Bizzaro,I agree, but we promised no violence we don’t want to stoop to the Tee Baggers level of indignation as we saw in the video where they threw money at the man who has parkinson’s, that is a new low in the sad commentary of the GOOPers and the almighty dollar they covet…….
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True…it’s very easy to get the urge to beat them senseless for acting like such brainwashed morons.
The really sad thing is that it’s very likely that almost all of those “people” (and I use that term loosely with the conservatives) would label themselves as “pro-life.” Whatever happens after birth they really don’t care. The conservative movement is a big hypocritical contradiction.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:29 pmGummitch, yeah I do keep asking the VDT question a lot..
March 18th, 2010 at 5:40 pmI guess I do that just to vent out my anget at the VDTs and find out where they are so I can barbeque them…
anget=anger
March 18th, 2010 at 5:46 pmteapat says:
The only way to drop prices is through competition. Any regulations that limit competition or restrict smaller insurance companies should be immediately repealed. Also, health insurance should be allowed to be purchased across state lines. Another reform meausre would be to limit health insurance to major illnesses. Like every other type of insurance, health insurance should be for unforseen big dollar costs. Car insurance is for accidents, home insurance is for fires, health insurance should be for major illnesses. Actuaries would then be able to forecast based on risk. Premiums would decrease because the chances of people getting major illnesses is much less. The current system rewards people for driving up costs. Because people with insurance tend to go to the doctor’s more often, the premiums obviously increase because the insurance companies know that they’ll have to spend more. The government covering every citizen so they can go to the doctor for free everytime they have a cold is ridiculous. Tort reform should also be considered. Malpractice insurance for the medical industry is just insane. There are so many options available to be tested rather than just the knee-jerk reaction of establishing a tremendous new entitlement program.
Teapat,
This makes too much Common Sense for Progressives. That is why they voted you down.
The real agenda is NOT Health Care. It is about Government Control of our lives and Redistribution of Wealth.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:46 pmkenny: The real agenda is NOT Health Care. It is about Government Control of our lives and Redistribution of Wealth.
Quick! Back under the bed! The black helicopters are coming.
March 18th, 2010 at 5:55 pmdrhunt1 says:
Pretty amazing reading these posts…all vilifying the insurance companies. One could come to only ONE conclusion, and that is you’re a bunch of losers that have never earned enough to purchase private insurance, or you’re worthless to the companies you DO work for so they haven’t offered you benefits. Does that sound plausible? I think so…
You may be on to something here.
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drhunt1 says:
Pretty amazing reading these posts…all vilifying the insurance companies. One could come to only ONE conclusion, and that is you’re a bunch of losers that have never earned enough to purchase private insurance, or you’re worthless to the companies you DO work for so they haven’t offered you benefits. Does that sound plausible? I think so…
You may be on something here.
He probably is, kenny. Thorazine, you think?
March 18th, 2010 at 5:58 pmKenneth says:
The real agenda is NOT Health Care. It is about Government Control of our lives and Redistribution of Wealth.
Can’t you do better than Republican talking points? You are boring us with the regurgitation in every thread. It really demonstrates your lack of critical analytical skills.
March 18th, 2010 at 6:14 pmYes, vote our way or we will make life miserable for you. We will continue to block, obstruct and impede (assuming there are any of us left to do so). We will put a horse’s head in your bed. We will send our people to harass you, blackball you. This isn’t blackmail, it is the Republican Way.
March 18th, 2010 at 6:14 pmWow, doctorate… the only conclusion one could come to is that people who vilify insurance companies have had no contact with them?
Have you ever had any contact with an insurance company???
I have… and I vilify them all day long.
But keep telling people how much you like them… ’cause average Americans have dealt with them too…
P.S. what’s that doctorate in?
March 18th, 2010 at 6:15 pmAnd Coburn continues:
“And if you vote yes, and your staff tries to get any constituent work done, guess what? I’ve got people that will throw a wrench in there. Do you think that little old lady in the 9th will appreciate her lost social security check getting even loster? And those army recruits from your district, do you think they’ll enjoy their basic training in Death Valley? I’ve got a guy on the armed services committee that can make it happen. And how’s the smell in your neck of the woods? A yes vote could mean a stiff won’t get buried for months; I know a lobbyist for the embalming industry that can dry up the flow of fluids like THAT. And I’m banging your wife and your youngest kid is mine, but vote with me and I won’t tell anyone.”
March 18th, 2010 at 6:26 pmI don’t know why trolls come here – they reinforce our already low opinion of them as cold, heartless, selfish, self-centered, sanctimonious, smug and stupid.
March 18th, 2010 at 6:30 pmTheir words of contempt and hatred will never change the opinion of anyone here – and our words will never penetrate their thick, racist, stubborn crania.
gummitch — this space for rent says:
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Kenneth says:
drhunt1 says:
Pretty amazing reading these posts…all vilifying the insurance companies. One could come to only ONE conclusion, and that is you’re a bunch of losers that have never earned enough to purchase private insurance, or you’re worthless to the companies you DO work for so they haven’t offered you benefits. Does that sound plausible? I think so…
You may be on something here.
He probably is, kenny. Thorazine, you think?
March 18th, 2010 at 6:44 pm–
No thorazine would sedate the trolls…it’s gotta be some form of amphetamine.
bizzarobrain,it’s that drug called authoritarianism they can’t get enough of it, they really can’t think for themselves,kinda almost SHEEPLEISH.Nothing but the same old talking points they get theirs and to hell with the rest of the country.
March 18th, 2010 at 6:50 pmchristopher wiwi says:
bizzarobrain,it’s that drug called authoritarianism they can’t get enough of it, they really can’t think for themselves,kinda almost SHEEPLEISH.Nothing but the same old talking points they get theirs and to hell with the rest of the country.
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Good point. Their addiction does work a bit like speed…only everyone else receives the burnout.
Bob Altemeyer’s-The Authoritarians (the chapters are in PDF format).
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