Summers Takes On Boehner: ‘Punk Staffers’ Aren’t The Problem, Bank Lobbyists Are
Yesterday, speaking at the American Bankers Association governmental relations summit, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) told the gathered bankers to fight Congressional financial reform efforts. “Don’t let those little punk staffers take advantage of you and stand up for yourselves,” Boehner said.
Today, White House National Economic Council Director Larry Summers fired back at Boehner, saying that bankers certainly do not need any help in their effort to blunt regulatory reform:
“I do not think that those who want to address these issues are ‘little punk staffers’ who need to be stood up to,” Summers said in a speech at the National Press Club…“At a moment when there are four lobbyists per member of the House and Senate working on this issue, we in the Administration do not believe that the prominent issue is allowing bankers to stand up for themselves.”
House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) also wrote a letter to Boehner, saying, “I am appalled that a Leader of the House, who must know what good work is done by our staffs, would take such an inaccurate cheap-shot at these people, for the purpose of ingratiating himself with bankers.” Frank called on Boehner to apologize for the remark.
Boehner’s remarks are simply part of a long-running effort by Republicans to ingratiate themselves with the financial industry. Boehner has met with JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon to troll for campaign contributions, while Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, “said he visited New York about twice a month to try to tap into Wall Street’s ‘buyers remorse’” with Democrats. Back in December, House Republicans huddled with more than 100 financial services lobbyists to come up with a strategy for killing financial reform. And just today, as Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) told the ABA summit that “if there were 59 Senate Republicans, ‘you wouldn’t have to worry’ about a new consumer agency.”
But as Summers noted, it’s not as if the financial services industry and its allies need any help. The Chamber of Commerce has already pledged to spend $3 million fighting financial reform, and that’s chump change compared to what the banks themselves spend. All told, the financial services industry spent $500 million on lobbying in 2009. In their respective careers, Boehner has received $3.4 million from the financial services industry, while Shelby has received $5.2 million, which is $2.2 million more than he’s received from any other industry.
Cross-posted on The Wonk Room.
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I’d go a bit further than that, Larry.
Punk obstructionist Congressmen and their ilk are the biggest problem of all.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:37 pmJohn Boehner (R-OH) is another fascist traitor to his country.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:37 pmBoehner’s remarks are simply part of a long-running effort by Republicans to ingratiate themselves with the financial industry.
Sure. All of the big bribes come from the financial industry. Republiscum LIKE big bribes.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:38 pmI wonder if Bonehead thinks his own staffers are “punks”?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:39 pmThis dick again? What is it going to take to shut some of these morons up for good?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:39 pmThe voters are angry about the bailouts, particularly the banks and financial services. Obama has lashed out at the large banks about their bonuses and failing to lend money. I don’t think it will be hard to paint Republicans as the party of big banks. The question is whether the Dems are smart enough to seize this opportunity.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:41 pmall elected R’s should be counted in the lobbyist total.
a few of the D’s too.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:45 pmpags2 says:
The voters are angry about the bailouts, particularly the banks and financial services. Obama has lashed out at the large banks about their bonuses and failing to lend money. I don’t think it will be hard to paint Republicans as the party of big banks. The question is whether the Dems are smart enough to seize this opportunity.
Until the Democrats develop a spine and stop saying to the republicans “don’t hurt me”, then no, they aren’t smart enough to seize this opportunity.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:46 pmI am ashamed to be in the same state as Boehner. What an @sshole.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:46 pmI get sick of seeing Droopy Dog II try to sound learned? He growls out his crappola with ponderous sincerity and yet you always smell self-serving snake oil…. with a wry smile.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:47 pmRiiiiiight….. soon as we get pas this health care thing, it will be the turn of the punk bankers and their ilk…
March 18th, 2010 at 2:48 pmljm at #10; talking about Droopy B0ehner of course!
March 18th, 2010 at 2:50 pmI think big bankers should pay 50% income tax, they want to keep jacking their salaries up, they can pay more taxes. [Blatant troll-baiting I know]
March 18th, 2010 at 2:51 pm…I cannot stand looking at that weird orange fake tan.
And those yellow teeth (ultra heavy smoker?) creep me out too.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:52 pmSummers and all of the other Clinton corporatists that dominate the Obama Administration are also a big part of the problem…
March 18th, 2010 at 2:53 pmOh and then there is that whining / barking spew.
Finger nails on the chalk board.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:53 pmljm says:
ljm at #10; talking about Droopy B0ehner of course!
I just refer to Boehner as bonehead, or the Cheeto. Cheeto is probably the best description, since he has the same color, and the same (nutritional) value – none.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:53 pmThis man is senseless. One day he’s attempting to defend the unborn, whom he rightly deems as defenseless, yet then he’s concerned about the most powerful and greedy people in our country being bullied around. These bankers and their agenda is quite possibly one of the most deplorable things this country faces. The fact that he defends them demonstrates that he is nothing more than an opportunistic liar. I wonder how he shuts out his conscience when he does this stuff?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:53 pmI think what bonerhead was trying to say is
we got punked by our own party.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:54 pmUSNclerk says:
I think big bankers should pay 50% income tax, they want to keep jacking their salaries up, they can pay more taxes. [Blatant troll-baiting I know]
I would rather go back to the 50’s tax structure. 80% tax rate on the highest incomes.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:55 pmWesley got it Right says:
This man is senseless. One day he’s attempting to defend the unborn, whom he rightly deems as defenseless, yet then he’s concerned about the most powerful and greedy people in our country being bullied around. These bankers and their agenda is quite possibly one of the most deplorable things this country faces. The fact that he defends them demonstrates that he is nothing more than an opportunistic liar. I wonder how he shuts out his conscience when he does this stuff?
Bonehead has a conscience? Since when?
March 18th, 2010 at 2:56 pmLefty Liberal says:
I would rather go back to the 50’s tax structure. 80% tax rate on the highest incomes.
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Hey, the Republican Party is always looking back at the 1950’s with nostalgia. This would be a fine way of bringing that era back.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:57 pmAnother blow for the GOP!!
March 18th, 2010 at 2:58 pmScore:
Obama-1,000,000
Republicans- 0
Wesley got it Right says:
Lefty Liberal says:
I would rather go back to the 50’s tax structure. 80% tax rate on the highest incomes.
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Hey, the Republican Party is always looking back at the 1950’s with nostalgia. This would be a fine way of bringing that era back.
That is about the only thing from the 50’s I want to see us go back to.
March 18th, 2010 at 2:59 pm@22 but that’s also before the civil rights movement and the women’s rights movement…I guess I can see why they remember those years so fondly…The men were in charge of the households, and the women and minorities “knew their place”…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:00 pmLL at 17: Cheeto/Cheato cool with me. Do you think that the orange tinge might be the Pinnocchio Effect?
March 18th, 2010 at 3:00 pm@21 Boner never has a consience..None of the Republicans do!!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:02 pmWait…don’t the Republican’ts want to go back to 1550? or was that 1650? Or 1750? Or 1850?
OH! It’s ANY time, in the PAST, other than the present!
And they certainly do NOT want any of us to have a future!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:02 pmHey Boner! Get a handkerchief! The banker’s largesse is dripping down your chin!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:02 pmljm says:
LL at 17: Cheeto/Cheato cool with me. Do you think that the orange tinge might be the Pinnocchio Effect?
yes more he lies, darker orange he becomes.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:03 pmljm says:
LL at 17: Cheeto/Cheato cool with me. Do you think that the orange tinge might be the Pinnocchio Effect?
More of a cheap spray-on tan. It just makes him look ridiculous. One of his gay staffers should really do a ‘queer eye for the straight(?) guy” routine on him.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:03 pmWesley got it right say:
maybe Bonehead is concerned about the defenseless unborn bankers that are to come.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:04 pm@28
March 18th, 2010 at 3:04 pmYeah they wanna go back to the Dark Ages and make the rest of us go with them…
They will convince their supporters that the Obama administration is being sooooo unfair to Wall Street. Their supporters will then stand with the banks against their own interests, and the republicans will use them to fill its’ coffers.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:04 pmcheeto bonehead sucks banks for free golf balls.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:04 pmRUCerious Brought to you by MalWart your source for cheap plastic crap says:
Hey Boner! Get a handkerchief! The banker’s largesse is dripping down your chin!
Heh.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:04 pmBoner feeding at the Financial Industry’s glory hole?
Lefty Liberal says:
ljm says:
LL at 17: Cheeto/Cheato cool with me. Do you think that the orange tinge might be the Pinnocchio Effect?
More of a cheap spray-on tan. It just makes him look ridiculous. One of his gay staffers should really do a ‘queer eye for the straight(?) guy” routine on him.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:07 pm–
Boehner honestly reminds me of a kind of Japanese sub-culture called Ganguro.
majii says:
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They will convince their supporters that the Obama administration is being sooooo unfair to Wall Street. Their supporters will then stand with the banks against their own interests, and the republicans will use them to fill its’ coffers.
They will try to thwart reform? Hon, they’ve already started doing that what with the tea partiers and all. Hehe lol..Idiots can be easily manipulated into voting against their own best interest.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:07 pmLook for brother Boner to start crying as he always does when he’s corrected. Don’t look for the water from his eyes to mass up his brown skin as he’s really brown. Rep. Cantor is to busy fighting for money for Israel as he and Liebermann are in big trouble because Obama stopped the free money flow.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:07 pm@39 I’ll be watching this idiot…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:09 pmmajii says:@34
March 18th, 2010 at 3:09 pmDo you seriously think the Republicans can sell the voters that Dems are being unfair to banks? The Republicans would have a lot of agida if they are forced to choose campaign donations from banks or risk being painted as the party that represents the industry that brought the economy down.
Jackie says:
March 18th, 2010 at 3:10 pmLook for brother Boner to start crying as he always does when he’s corrected. Don’t look for the water from his eyes to mass up his brown skin as he’s really brown. Rep. Cantor is to busy fighting for money for Israel as he and Liebermann are in big trouble because Obama stopped the free money flow.
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I’ll bet $5 that Boehner cries tanning lotion. :D
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majii says:@34
Do you seriously think the Republicans can sell the voters that Dems are being unfair to banks? The Republicans would have a lot of agida if they are forced to choose campaign donations from banks or risk being painted as the party that represents the industry that brought the economy down.
Nah, that’ll only buy them the stupidest voters..The ones at the tea parties carrying around signs saying that Obama is a “Socialist Nazi” or whatever…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:11 pmThose of us with functioning brainstems, however won’t be so easily “bought”…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:13 pmLook for brother Boner to start crying
LOL>> can we get a cry off between beckerhead and cheeto bonehead.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:13 pmToo bad the bible belt is made up of waaay too many ignorant, racist hicks..And what’s even worse is that they can vote!!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:14 pmAs well as own guns..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:15 pm*sigh* Oh well I guess the best one can hope for is for the rednecks to shoot themselves into oblivion!
Or at least secede…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:16 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
March 18th, 2010 at 3:17 pmAs well as own guns..
*sigh* Oh well I guess the best one can hope for is for the rednecks to shoot themselves into oblivion!
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Start spreading a rumor that an airborne commie virus is running rampant through the south. Give it time and their paranoia will take over.
That would boost our national IQ as well as our international image…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:17 pmStart spreading a rumor that an airborne commie virus is running rampant through the south. Give it time and their paranoia will take over.
Don’t worry, I’ve already got Beck on speed-dial!!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:18 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
March 18th, 2010 at 3:19 pmThat would boost our national IQ as well as our international image…
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Oh yeah. I’m tired of America being called the most retarded nation on the face of the earth because of these hicks holding us back.
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Start spreading a rumor that an airborne commie virus is running rampant through the south. Give it time and their paranoia will take over.
Don’t worry, I’ve already got Beck on speed-dial!!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:20 pm–
Think he’ll pick up that fake red phone of his?
Oh yeah. I’m tired of America being called the most retarded nation on the face of the earth because of these hicks holding us back.
I think we all are…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:21 pmI know I am tired of it, too..
Stupid redneck Bush voters……
Think he’ll pick up that fake red phone of his?
I hope he does..This “story” would really boost his ratings…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:22 pm:D
And maybe he’ll even get some advertisers!!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:23 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Oh yeah. I’m tired of America being called the most retarded nation on the face of the earth because of these hicks holding us back.
I think we all are…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:24 pmI know I am tired of it, too..
Stupid redneck Bush voters……
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Honestly these morons fall for every shit head with a TV show and a microphone in hand. All you have to do to get them to do your bidding is spew some shit about “freedom” and how every ones out to get you and they’ll walk in lock-step. F***ing morons.
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!!–With an assist from rw politicians, pundits, radio entertainers, think tanks, lobbyists, and Fuchs Noose, they will handle finance reform the same way they handled HCR.
We’ve seen this all before. It just seems that they can convince millions of people to do their dirty work for them. I’ll be watching for the anti-finance reform town halls where the stupid will be holding signs and hollering like fools.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:25 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Think he’ll pick up that fake red phone of his?
I hope he does..This “story” would really boost his ratings…
March 18th, 2010 at 3:26 pm:D
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Heh. Good luck with that.
Psycho crybaby’s red phone is a hotline to nowhere. He doesn’t want dialogue, he just thinks the appearance of being open to dialogue somehow justifies his deranged on-air behavior.
Honestly these morons fall for every shit head with a TV show and a microphone in hand. All you have to do to get them to do your bidding is spew some shit about “freedom” and how every ones out to get you and they’ll walk in lock-step. F***ing morons.
Which is how people like hannity, et al make their money..They brainwash the brainded voters in the south to follow them in lockstep..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:26 pmWe’ve seen this all before. It just seems that they can convince millions of people to do their dirty work for them. I’ll be watching for the anti-finance reform town halls where the stupid will be holding signs and hollering like fools.
Oh, I think their influence is starting to wane..Their ‘big” tea party rally on Tuesday in D.C. brought in only about 200 people…People are starting to wise up to this crap and only those who have their heads stuck up their butts don’t see it.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:29 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Honestly these morons fall for every shit head with a TV show and a microphone in hand. All you have to do to get them to do your bidding is spew some shit about “freedom” and how every ones out to get you and they’ll walk in lock-step. F***ing morons.
Which is how people like hannity, et al make their money..They brainwash the brainded voters in the south to follow them in lockstep..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:29 pm–
If there’s one quote that accurately sums up the Beck/Hannity crowd this would be it: “There’s a sucker born every minute.”-PT Barnum.
Heh. Good luck with that.
Psycho crybaby’s red phone is a hotline to nowhere. He doesn’t want dialogue, he just thinks the appearance of being open to dialogue somehow justifies his deranged on-air behavior.
Well then, at least we might be able to show the teabaggers what a raging lunatic he is after all.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:30 pmI’m not holding my breath, though…
If there’s one quote that accurately sums up the Beck/Hannity crowd this would be it: “There’s a sucker born every minute.”-PT Barnum.
Hehe lol pretty much.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:31 pm:D
linzloo08–It is exactly as you describe here in GA. Any comment made against any of the rw entertainers/politicians/pundits brings out the long knives with a vengeance. It’s Brainwashing 101 to the extreme. This state is in so much trouble budgetwise, and the knuckleheads have no one to blame except themselves because they keep voting for the “faux” conservatives who reach into their bags of catchphrases, dupe them into voting for them, and proceed to help the corporations and the rich. It is really really distressing to live among a group of people who have not one independent thought among themselves. March in lockstep is all they know.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:33 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Heh. Good luck with that.
Psycho crybaby’s red phone is a hotline to nowhere. He doesn’t want dialogue, he just thinks the appearance of being open to dialogue somehow justifies his deranged on-air behavior.
Well then, at least we might be able to show the teabaggers what a raging lunatic he is after all.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:34 pmI’m not holding my breath, though…
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Yeah…don’t bother. These tea-bagger wierdos still think the cold war is raging on. They’ve got no real boogeyman to fight against today so they hearken back to the only enemy they know: communism. And Beck uses it to scare seven shades of shit right out of them. Profiting off of fear is the perfect scam.
majii says:
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linzloo08–It is exactly as you describe here in GA. Any comment made against any of the rw entertainers/politicians/pundits brings out the long knives with a vengeance. It’s Brainwashing 101 to the extreme. This state is in so much trouble budgetwise, and the knuckleheads have no one to blame except themselves because they keep voting for the “faux” conservatives who reach into their bags of catchphrases, dupe them into voting for them, and proceed to help the corporations and the rich. It is really really distressing to live among a group of people who have not one independent thought among themselves. March in lockstep is all they know.
Well, Virginia’s also the same way..We have a huge population of inbred rednecks in southern VA with their bibles and their guns….And heaven forbid anyone should try to “take their guns away”, they go insane..All any GOP candidate for any office has to do to win their vote is to toss out the 3 g’s: god, guns, and gays..As well as repeat things like “morality” and “tax cuts” over and over again..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:37 pmGotta love the priorities of the Republican Party. Of course, now that they are reduced to catering to a collection of rubes and nutcases, their cash flow must be getting kind of strapped. Luckily, the Republican majority on SCOTUS has sent them a gift of unlimited corporate spending, so Boehner is just doing some naked, reverse lobbying.
Nice to see that the Republicans have no shame and openly are going after those contributions. As the Organized Crime Party, it’s no surprise to see them turning tricks as the high priced whores that they really are.
I’m sure the trolls and apologists on the board will find this kind of prostitution entirely acceptable.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:37 pm@68 Good analogy!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:38 pmmajii,
March 18th, 2010 at 3:39 pmI think what really pisses me off about Beck is the fact that he claims to be re-establishing a sense of nonpartisan national brotherhood and then he calls President Obama a racist (while ignoring his own racist rhetoric), declaring that the government is bringing fascism (while ignoring all the facts) upon us, asking his fans to dig up dirt on political figures he doesn’t like, and predicting civil-war-like uprisings. Because that’s how you bring people together. And then he sprung that 9/12 shit on us. Using tragedy as a political platform is not how one brings back national unity and civility.
Yeah…don’t bother. These tea-bagger wierdos still think the cold war is raging on. They’ve got no real boogeyman to fight against today so they hearken back to the only enemy they know: communism. And Beck uses it to scare seven shades of shit right out of them. Profiting off of fear is the perfect scam.
Yep. I see that with my mom and dad..Two reasonable and smart adults paranoid that Obama is pushing “socialism” (gasp..the horror!) and “taking our freedoms away”.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:41 pmbizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
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majii,
I think what really pisses me off about Beck is the fact that he claims to be re-establishing a sense of nonpartisan national brotherhood and then he calls President Obama a racist (while ignoring his own racist rhetoric), declaring that the government is bringing fascism (while ignoring all the facts) upon us, asking his fans to dig up dirt on political figures he doesn’t like, and predicting civil-war-like uprisings. Because that’s how you bring people together. And then he sprung that 9/12 shit on us. Using tragedy as a political platform is not how one brings back national unity and civility.
This is why my dad likes him..They both feel the same way..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:43 pmMy dad’s been predicting that we would “have a major terrorist” attack here since pratically the day Obama took office…
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Yeah…don’t bother. These tea-bagger wierdos still think the cold war is raging on. They’ve got no real boogeyman to fight against today so they hearken back to the only enemy they know: communism. And Beck uses it to scare seven shades of shit right out of them. Profiting off of fear is the perfect scam.
Yep. I see that with my mom and dad..Two reasonable and smart adults paranoid that Obama is pushing “socialism” (gasp..the horror!) and “taking our freedoms away”.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:44 pm–
That sucks that our political discourse has been reduced to just basic name-calling that is devoid of any facts. Have you ever asked them to give you the actual definition of socialism or tried having a serious conversation with them about it? Or is it really that pointless?
And he views Obama as being “soft” on terrorism because Obama prefers to engage in diplomacy rather than proceed to blow up every country that doesn’t like us and because Obama banned torture at Gitmo..That sent my dad on a tirade….
March 18th, 2010 at 3:45 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
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majii,
I think what really pisses me off about Beck is the fact that he claims to be re-establishing a sense of nonpartisan national brotherhood and then he calls President Obama a racist (while ignoring his own racist rhetoric), declaring that the government is bringing fascism (while ignoring all the facts) upon us, asking his fans to dig up dirt on political figures he doesn’t like, and predicting civil-war-like uprisings. Because that’s how you bring people together. And then he sprung that 9/12 shit on us. Using tragedy as a political platform is not how one brings back national unity and civility.
This is why my dad likes him..They both feel the same way..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:46 pmMy dad’s been predicting that we would “have a major terrorist” attack here since pratically the day Obama took office…
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That’s absolutely psychotic. I hated Bush but I never wished for people to be killed just to spite the president and his admin.
That sucks that our political discourse has been reduced to just basic name-calling that is devoid of any facts. Have you ever asked them to give you the actual definition of socialism or tried having a serious conversation with them about it? Or is it really that pointless?
That might work with my mom..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:46 pmWith my dad, probably not…….
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
March 18th, 2010 at 3:48 pmAnd he views Obama as being “soft” on terrorism because Obama prefers to engage in diplomacy rather than proceed to blow up every country that doesn’t like us and because Obama banned torture at Gitmo..That sent my dad on a tirade….
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And that’s the problem with the right…they’re fed all these snippets about how torture is beneficial to the survival of our democracy and they get intellectually and morally lazy even to the point of trying to justify such horrible actions.
That’s absolutely psychotic. I hated Bush but I never wished for people to be killed just to spite the president and his admin.
Ok so I exaggerated a bit, but my dad had predicted a terrorist attack because Obama is “cutting the (overbloated) defense budget” and that would somehow make us more “vulnerable” to an attack…Jeebus, he went on for days after the Christmas underwear bomber about how we needed to “launch a missle strike against mecca” to try to “teach them a lesson”..And I had to sit in the car and listen to this crap..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:50 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
That sucks that our political discourse has been reduced to just basic name-calling that is devoid of any facts. Have you ever asked them to give you the actual definition of socialism or tried having a serious conversation with them about it? Or is it really that pointless?
That might work with my mom..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:50 pmWith my dad, probably not…….
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Well I can only wish you the best of luck with that one. Maybe you should try getting your dad to read books that aren’t written by rightie pundits.
Well I can only wish you the best of luck with that one. Maybe you should try getting your dad to read books that aren’t written by rightie pundits.
Thanks..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:51 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
That’s absolutely psychotic. I hated Bush but I never wished for people to be killed just to spite the president and his admin.
Ok so I exaggerated a bit, but my dad had predicted a terrorist attack because Obama is “cutting the (overbloated) defense budget” and that would somehow make us more “vulnerable” to an attack…Jeebus, he went on for days after the Christmas underwear bomber about how we needed to “launch a missle strike against mecca” to try to “teach them a lesson”..And I had to sit in the car and listen to this crap..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:52 pm–
Oh okay. Still cutting the budget cut the military budget by 12% would be a great idea (it would help pay for health-care) and bombing Mecca is just f***ing insane (that would only encourage a terrorist attack).
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Well I can only wish you the best of luck with that one. Maybe you should try getting your dad to read books that aren’t written by rightie pundits.
Thanks..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:54 pm–
Whither Socialism? by Joseph E. Stiglitz would be a good one to start with. Stiglitz is a little critical of the system but he does raise some good points about the benefits.
Oh okay. Still cutting the budget cut the military budget by 12% would be a great idea (it would help pay for health-care) and bombing Mecca is just f***ing insane (that would only encourage a terrorist attack).
Which is what I tried to point out to my dad, but he wouldn’t listen and I had to practice some self-control so I could avoid strangling him…He thinks Bush was better at keeping us “safe”..Thank god we survived 8 years of that idiot with only one attack!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:56 pmThe only thing dumber than Bush (besides Palin) are the people who voted for him..
March 18th, 2010 at 3:57 pmAnd they’re effin proud of it too!!!
March 18th, 2010 at 3:58 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Oh okay. Still cutting the budget cut the military budget by 12% would be a great idea (it would help pay for health-care) and bombing Mecca is just f***ing insane (that would only encourage a terrorist attack).
Which is what I tried to point out to my dad, but he wouldn’t listen and I had to practice some self-control so I could avoid strangling him…He thinks Bush was better at keeping us “safe”..Thank god we survived 8 years of that idiot with only one attack!
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Yikes.
Even Robert Hutchings (the former chairman of the National Intelligence Council) said that the war in Iraq made the US less safe because it was just adding fuel to the fire that is Islamic radicalism.
March 18th, 2010 at 3:59 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
March 18th, 2010 at 4:00 pmThe only thing dumber than Bush (besides Palin) are the people who voted for him..
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Guess those who voted for him twice are twice as stupid. :D
Even Robert Hutchings (the former chairman of the National Intelligence Council) said that the war in Iraq made the US less safe because it was just adding fuel to the fire that is Islamic radicalism.
They only watched/still watch FauxSnooze, so they never heard the negative things about Bush (jeebus, I’m just starting to learn about those myself…I blame growing up on FauxSnooze and with parents who loved bush)…
March 18th, 2010 at 4:02 pmGuess those who voted for him twice are twice as stupid. :D
Haha yeah..When I went to a rally for her and McCain here in No.Va ( I was 17 and stupid) with my mom and younger sis, I saw sooo many people there who probably couldn’t think of one reason that they were supporting her other than “shes a woman” or “she’s a republican”…I should have listened to my gut and voted for obama at that point..
March 18th, 2010 at 4:05 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Even Robert Hutchings (the former chairman of the National Intelligence Council) said that the war in Iraq made the US less safe because it was just adding fuel to the fire that is Islamic radicalism.
They only watched/still watch FauxSnooze, so they never heard the negative things about Bush (jeebus, I’m just starting to learn about those myself…I blame growing up on FauxSnooze and with parents who loved bush)…
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Well at least you didn’t fall for Fox’s BS. :D
The Bush Tragedy by Jacob Weisberg is a good book that explores the early days of Bush’s presidency (namely the Iraq war) and the author attempts to get inside Bush’s head.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:06 pmBut unfortunately, I didn’t go for obama because I didn’t want to be the “odd person out”, since my family and as well as a lot of my friends were going for McCain..
March 18th, 2010 at 4:07 pmBut how is Boner going to keep getting cash from his corrupt, immoral, unethical, shady business banking buddies if they are regulated? Uh, tell me that…ha….see….oh, they will still continue to buy our Representatives….nevermind.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:08 pmWell at least you didn’t fall for Fox’s BS. :D
Me too :D
March 18th, 2010 at 4:09 pm@92
March 18th, 2010 at 4:10 pmROTFL!! :D
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Guess those who voted for him twice are twice as stupid. :D
Haha yeah..When I went to a rally for her and McCain here in No.Va ( I was 17 and stupid) with my mom and younger sis, I saw sooo many people there who probably couldn’t think of one reason that they were supporting her other than “shes a woman” or “she’s a republican”…I should have listened to my gut and voted for obama at that point..
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I think the dumbest reason I’ve heard from people about why they chose to vote for Palin was: “she’s really religious.” Seriously WTF? Of course that was the same reason why a lot of people voted for Bush. Shit never changes.
And at least you’re here to laugh at the right with us while they lose their shit over Obama being elected.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:10 pmI think the dumbest reason I’ve heard from people about why they chose to vote for Palin was: “she’s really religious.” Seriously WTF? Of course that was the same reason why a lot of people voted for Bush. Shit never changes./
*jaw hits keyboard*
March 18th, 2010 at 4:12 pmAnd at least you’re here to laugh at the right with us while they lose their shit over Obama being elected.
Yep.. The right never ceases to entertain me…..
March 18th, 2010 at 4:13 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
I think the dumbest reason I’ve heard from people about why they chose to vote for Palin was: “she’s really religious.” Seriously WTF? Of course that was the same reason why a lot of people voted for Bush. Shit never changes./
*jaw hits keyboard*
March 18th, 2010 at 4:14 pm–
I did the same thing…well actually I nearly slugged my neighbor who is a republican for saying that. I still stick to my opinion that they were just hoping that McCain would croak and Palin would take over if they won the presidential election.
Are the American people really going to believe that financial reform is not for their benefit?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:14 pmThe meltdown affected everyone – rich and poor – working, non-working and retired – why do repugs think that they will be popular by siding with the financial pigs who brought us to the brink?
They will marshall their forces; the congress-locksteppers, the Fox media, the rightwing hate machine – but will repugs really convince the people that reform is not good?
It has been done before – so it’s not impossible, but this time, can repugs really do that?
The are counting on financial benefits for THEMSELVES by taking up the cause of the bankers, but will it work this time?
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
And at least you’re here to laugh at the right with us while they lose their shit over Obama being elected.
Yep.. The right never ceases to entertain me…..
March 18th, 2010 at 4:16 pm–
They seriously are an endless source of comedy. Though I wish I could have a serious talk with Beck, then tell him to eat some radium and die.
@98 Palin wasn’t exactly popular in my family, at least with my dad, because he thought she would “ruin” McCain’s chances at winning the election..However, McCain did a pretty good job of that on his own.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:17 pmWe all joke abaout Boehner’s “tan” — is his orange skin really a spray-on tan, or too much time in a booth, or is it because he is a chain smoker and that is his nicotine aura?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:19 pmI know he is a drinker also, but I think that would make his nose red.
Then again, this is coming from the same guy who thought that LIEberman would make a better VP…
March 18th, 2010 at 4:19 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
@98 Palin wasn’t exactly popular in my family, at least with my dad, because he thought she would “ruin” McCain’s chances at winning the election..However, McCain did a pretty good job of that on his own.
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McCain’s still screwing himself over. That’s what’s so funny about it.
Maybe its bad karma (or good karma for the rest of us) biting back at him for McCain unleashing Palin on us.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:20 pmThey seriously are an endless source of comedy. Though I wish I could have a serious talk with Beck, then tell him to eat some radium and die.
But, but then he’ll start crying that you are part of Obama’s top-secret plan to get rid of him!!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:21 pmShorter Beck :”BWAAAAAHH!!!”
March 18th, 2010 at 4:23 pm*Beck runs and hides behind a big curtain*
March 18th, 2010 at 4:24 pmbizarro = McCain’s still screwing himself over.
I heard McCain is ahead of J.D. Hayworth by only 7 points at this time.
March 18th, 2010 at 4:25 pmJ.D. Hayworth — I’d almost prefer McCain over that prick.
“MOMMY, OUR EVIL SOCIALIST NAZI PRESIDENT IS OUT TO GET ME!!”
March 18th, 2010 at 4:25 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
They seriously are an endless source of comedy. Though I wish I could have a serious talk with Beck, then tell him to eat some radium and die.
But, but then he’ll start crying that you are part of Obama’s top-secret plan to get rid of him!!
March 18th, 2010 at 4:25 pm–
Shh…us sane Americans are are in on this plan. Maybe someone should offer Beck a lithium milkshake and tell him to STFU.
Shh…us sane Americans are are in on this plan. Maybe someone should offer Beck a lithium milkshake and tell him to STFU.
Haha yeah..Anyone wanna help me carry out that plan?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:27 pm@108 McCain just needs to retire..
March 18th, 2010 at 4:29 pmThat senile old fart can’t remember how many houses he owns, let alone public policy!!!
Marie,
I’m a little skeptical of those numbers because from what I’ve read they’re all over the place.
For some reason TP’s not letting me post the link but google: “J.D. Hayworth Within Seven Points of John McCain, Poll Finds, But “The Maverick’s” Not Shakin’ in His Boots Just Yet”
From the article:
March 18th, 2010 at 4:35 pm“Rasmussen’s numbers have been all over the map, so you have to question if he’s really getting a good picture of this race. Last November Rasmussen had the race tied; this January had McCain up 22, and now has McCain up 7,” McCain spokesman Brian Rogers tells New Times. “The internals for both campaigns have been consistent in showing McCain with a strong advantage of 16-plus points. Our last internal poll had McCain up 20 points and those numbers continue to be strong.”
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Shh…us sane Americans are are in on this plan. Maybe someone should offer Beck a lithium milkshake and tell him to STFU.
Haha yeah..Anyone wanna help me carry out that plan?
March 18th, 2010 at 4:36 pm–
Let me give Beck a call. :D
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
March 18th, 2010 at 4:37 pm@108 McCain just needs to retire..
That senile old fart can’t remember how many houses he owns, let alone public policy!!!
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Agreed. Grampy McCain needs to retire. The only difference between McCain and JD Hayworth is that Hayworth basically admits that he’s a liar while McCain is a lying shit head who still likes to tell people that he’s a “straight-talking maverick.”
#113 bizarro
March 18th, 2010 at 5:03 pmYeah, one has to question any poll numbers coming from Rasmussen. His credibility is falling.
Marie says:
March 18th, 2010 at 5:36 pm#113 bizarro
Yeah, one has to question any poll numbers coming from Rasmussen. His credibility is falling.
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True. Rasmussen wasn’t quite as bad during Bush years, but now he’s completely gone the way of Fox News and their ilk. Understandable for a propaganda outlet such as Fox, very bad for a pollster.
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