March 15, 2010

In support of Israel

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It Gets Worse

Jennifer Rubin - 03.14.2010 - 1:29 PM

The White House is, as this report suggests, upping the ante with continued criticism of Israel. Taking to the morning talk shows, David Axelrod — a political operative who now seems at the center of foreign-policy formulation (more on this later) — went on the Fox, ABC, and NBC Sunday talk shows to repeat how insulted the Obami were over Israeli building in Jerusalem and what an affront this was to them. And what is the affront? Well, for some context, this report is enlightening:

The Likud Party’s Danny Dadon, deputy speaker of the Knesset, called Clinton’s “meddling in internal Israeli decisions regarding the development” of Jerusalem “uninvited and unhelpful. In fact it is sheer chutzpah.”

“I cannot remember another time that a senior American official deemed it ‘insulting’ when a sovereign nation announced urban zoning decisions regarding its primary city,” Danon said.

In the past, U.S. administrations have tended to more gently chide Israel on construction in Jerusalem that is over the “Green Line” boundary from the 1967 war, in areas where the Palestinians hope to build a capital as part of a future peace deal. More often, U.S. officials would call such construction “unhelpful,” and note that the future of Jerusalem is an issue to be decided in final status negotiations between the parties.

The reaction of the Obami is even more startling considering the location and strategic importance of Ramat Shlomo. But this administration doesn’t make such fine distinctions and is not like past ones, we are learning. It might have something to do with the fact that Axelrod and the Chicago pols are running foreign policy. It’s attack, attack, attack — just as they do any domestic critic (even the Supreme Court Chief Justice). It’s about bullying and discrediting, trying to force the opponent into a corner. And in this case, their opponent is plainly the Israeli government. For that is the party the Obami is now demanding make further concessions to… well, to what end is not clear. Perhaps we are back to regime change — an effort to topple the duly elected government of Israel to obtain a negotiating partner more willing to yield to American bullying.

The language the Obami employ – ”personal,” “insulting,” and “affront” – suggests an unusual degree of personal peevishness and hostility toward an ally. That, I suppose, is the mentality of Chicago pols and of those who regard Israel not as a valued friend but as an irritant. And it is the language not of negotiators but of intimidators.

Illinois Rep. Mark Kirk, now a Senate candidate, issued this statement as the mess unfolded last week:

This year marks the 15th anniversary of the Jerusalem Embassy Act, making it official United States policy that Jerusalem should remain the undivided capital of Israel,” Congressman Kirk said.  “As a staff member, I helped draft this historic legislation; as a Congressman I continue to urge its enforcement.  History teaches us that a divided Jerusalem leads to conflict while a unified Jerusalem protects the rights of all faiths.  I urge the Administration to spend more time working to stop Iran from building nuclear bombs and less time concerned with zoning issues in Jerusalem.  As Iran accelerates its uranium enrichment, we should not be condemning one of America’s strongest democratic allies in the Middle East.

And that really sums it up: what end is served by this conflagration with an ally, and what does it say about the administration’s priorities? The Obami seem to have a strange notion about what motivates our foes and what the key threats to American security are. This exchange with Jake Tapper is telling — both for how extraordinarily irrational and how ill-formulated the administration’s rhetoric has become:

TAPPER:  All right, last question.  Vice President Biden went to Israel this week and he was greeted by a slap in the face, the announcement by the Israeli government of the approval of new housing units in an Arab section of Jerusalem.  President Obama was said to be very upset about it.  Vice President Biden and Secretary of State Clinton made very strong comments about it.  Will there be any consequences, tangible consequences beyond the tough talk?  And does Israel’s intransigence on the housing issue put the lives of U.S. troops at risk?

AXELROD:  Well, look, what happened there was an affront.  It was an insult, but that’s not the most important thing.  What it did was it made more difficult a very difficult process.  We’ve just gotten proximity, so-called proximity talks going between the Palestinians and the Israelis, and this seemed calculated to undermine that, and that was — that was distressing to everyone who is promoting the idea of peace — and security in the region.

Israel is a strong and special ally.  The bonds run deep.  But for just that very reason, this was not the right way to behave.  That was expressed by the secretary of state, as well as the vice president.  I am not going to discuss what diplomatic talks we’ve had underneath that, but I think the Israelis understand clearly why we were upset and what, you know, what we want moving forward.

TAPPER:  I hate to say this, but yes or no, David, does the intransigence of the Israeli government on the housing issue, yes or no, does it put U.S. troops lives at risk?

AXELROD:  I believe that that region and that issue is a flare point throughout the region, and so I’m not going to put it in those terms.  But I do believe that it is absolutely imperative, not just for the security of Israel and the Palestinian people, who were, remember, at war just a year ago, but it is important for our own security that we move forward and resolve this very difficult issue.

A squirrely response at the end, revealing that much of what the administration says is irrational and, upon any reflection, ridiculous. It is disturbing indeed to hear an American administration adopt the Arab rhetorical line — Israel’s settlements endanger Americans. Which president has ever given voice to such rubbish? There is, regrettably, a first for everything

Re: They Haven’t Learned the Lesson

Jennifer Rubin - 03.14.2010 - 11:57 AM

The Obami seem to have adopted, if not encouraged, the Palestinian predilection to see an array of Israeli actions as provocation. Building homes within its capital or protecting biblical sites are all provocative to the Palestinian sensibilities. So in rush the Obami, filled with condemnation for Israel. But frankly, practically everything — including Israel’s existence — is provocative to many Palestinians. A case in point: the restoration of the Hurva synagogue in the Jewish Quarter of the Old City (destroyed when Jews did not control the site) is now a source of outrage for the Palestinians:

Top Fatah official and holder of the Jerusalem portfolio Khatem Abd el-Kader called Palestinians on Sunday to “converge on al Aksa to save it” from what he called “Israeli attempts to destroy the mosque and replace it with the [Jewish] temple.” Khader was speaking ahead of a dedication of a renovated synagogue in the Jewish Quarter in the Old City, planned to take place Tuesday.He called Israel’s renovation of the Hurva Synagogue a “provocation” and warned Israel that it was “playing with fire.”

It is this mentality that the Obami only encourage with their bile-filled statements and constant hollering at Israel, and with it, they further the notion that Israel, unlike any other country in the world, is restricted in where its citizens may live and in what historic and religious sites it can attend to. If only the outrage were as great for Palestinian celebrations of terrorists

They Haven’t Learned the Lesson

Evelyn Gordon - 03.14.2010 - 10:29 AM

Last week, I wrote that American, European, and Arab success in pressuring the Palestinians to resume negotiations could prove a turnabout in the peace process, if the world learned the lesson and began pressing the Palestinians for necessary concessions on substantive issues. But based on its response to last week’s announcement of new construction in Jerusalem’s Ramat Shlomo neighborhood, the world clearly hasn’t learned the lesson.

All the parties concerned were understandably upset by the announcement’s timing: just as proximity talks were about to begin, and while Vice President Joe Biden was in the region. But substantively, the new construction makes absolutely no difference to the prospects of an agreement — because any agreement would unquestionably leave this neighborhood in Israel’s hands.

Ramat Shlomo already has more than 20,000 residents — far too big to be uprooted even without the planned 1,600 new houses. It is also, as Rick noted, of considerable strategic importance, dominating all of Jerusalem’s major roads; thus Israel would insist on retaining it, even if not a single Jew lived there. Finally, its location in no way precludes the division of Jerusalem, which is what both Washington and Europe claim to want: situated in the corner formed by two other huge Jewish neighborhoods to its west and south, it does not block a single Arab neighborhood from contiguity with a future Palestinian state.

Thus if Washington and Europe were serious about wanting an agreement, they would essentially tell the Palestinians: “Grow up. You can’t turn the clock back 43 years, so not everything that was Jordanian-occupied territory in May 1967 will eventually become Palestinian. Some of it will remain Israeli — and that includes Ramat Shlomo. Don’t waste time and energy fighting Israeli construction in areas that will never be part of Palestine; focus on fighting construction in areas that realistically could be Palestinian under any agreement.”

Instead, by their over-the-top condemnations, America and Europe have fed the Palestinians’ fantasy that they can turn the clock back — because the only way this new construction could be the enormous obstacle to an agreement that the world has labeled it is if Ramat Shlomo actually could and should become Palestinian.

Every serious negotiator for the last 17 years has recognized that any agreement will have to take account of developments since 1967. That’s why every serious peace proposal, from the Clinton plan in 2000 to Ehud Olmert’s offer in 2008, has involved Israel keeping about 6 percent of the West Bank (with or without territorial swaps). But the Palestinians still refuse to accept this fact: they continue to insist on swaps comprising at most 2 to 3 percent of the West Bank. That would force Israel to evict hundreds of thousands of Jews from their homes, which is both politically and economically unfeasible.

For any agreement to be possible, the world must finally make the Palestinians recognize that the clock cannot be turned back. By instead doing the opposite over Ramat Shlomo, Washington and Europe are undermining their own stated goal of achieving a peace deal.

Posted by Ted Belman @ 10:22 am |

17 Comments »


  1. Washington and Europe are undermining their own stated goal of achieving a peace deal

    But if the unstated goal is to destroy Israel, then it all makes sense.

    Comment by ayn reagan — March 15, 2010 @ 11:48 am



  2. The Obama argument is that Jews building houses obligates Muslims to murder Americans.

    How pathetically demented.

    How gutless.

    Classic anti-Semitic scapegoating.

    One billion Muslims.

    Thirteen millions Jews.

    So when Muslims aggress against America, it is safer for cowards to scapegoat the Jews.

    Cowardice.

    When an Afghan Muslim kills an American soldier with an Iranian weapon, it is the fault of the Jews?

    That is the belief of Barack HUSSEIN Obama?

    And Netanyahu cannot summon the words to put such a bigot on the defensive?

    He cannot ridicule Jew-baiting demagogues into submission?

    Hapless putz.

    Comment by ayn reagan — March 15, 2010 @ 12:01 pm



  3. The Obama argument is that Jews building houses obligates Muslims to murder Americans.

    How pathetically demented.

    How gutless.

    Classic anti-Semitic scapegoating.

    One billion Muslims.

    Thirteen millions Jews.

    So when Muslims aggress against America, it is safer for cowards to scapegoat the Jews.

    Cowardice.

    When an Afghan Muslim kills an American soldier with an Iranian weapon, it is the fault of the Jews?

    That is the belief of Barack HUSSEIN Obama?

    And Netanyahu cannot summon the words to put such a bigot on the defensive?

    He cannot ridicule Jew-baiting demagogues into submission?

    Hapless putz.

    That says it all.

    Comment by keelie — March 15, 2010 @ 12:56 pm



  4. As of last count, Jews in Israel were supporting Netanyahu overwhelmingly, with the coalition partners 100% behind him in not caving in to BO. That goes against what I’ve read in DEBKA, which says Bibi has caved in. The US Administration has taken off the kid gloves, and engaged in a full-court press against Jews and against Israel. This is the opportunity for Jews to stand together or fall separately, if there ever was such a moment. The BO crew has really flipped out this time. If the Jewish people give in on this, the whole world is in peril from the madmen in Washington. God help us, please.

    Comment by BlandOatmeal — March 15, 2010 @ 1:25 pm



  5. Israel, US and the Stinking Fish
    Rabbi Meir Kahane 1976

    Many times I have spoken of the Talmudic parable of the king, his servant, and the fish. Never was it more apt. [Events of today between Bibi and Obama.]

    Once there was a king who sent his servant to buy a fish. The servant returned with a fish that stank. In fury the king gave the servant a choice of three punishments: “Eat the fish, get whipped for the fish, or pay for the fish.” In common with most people, the servant chose not to reach into his pocket and he decided to eat the stinking fish but after two bites the stench made him give up and he decided to get whipped for it. The pain of the lashes, however, made him stop that, too, and he cried out, “I will pay for the fish!”

    And so the fool ate the fish, got whipped for the fish and, in the end, had to pay for it, anyhow. Those in Israel and without, who refuse to understand that nothing will deter America from demanding that Israel make the maximum concessions, play the same fool. Those who do not understand that there is nothing that Israel can possible do, that there are no compromises it can make, that there is nothing short of full retreat to the 1967 borders that will satisfy the United States-are the same fools as the servant who ate, got whipped and in the end had to pay anyhow,

    Their refusal to make the difficult choice of telling the Americans “no”, now, at this moment, will see them making the retreats they hope will avert American anger; it will see this effort fail even as the frontier moves from its present lines within the Arab heartland to new ones close to the Jewish cities; and most important, the Americans will make the same demands they always have envisioned since the days of the Roger Plan-total Israeli withdrawal. And since this is a thing that not even the most dovish of Israelis will agree to, the result will be an ultimate Israeli firm “no”, an ultimate American anger of the kind all men of “new initiative” propose to avert today by compromise, and exactly the same conditions of confrontation that would come anyhow if the Israelis said their “no” today. There would be one great difference, however, a “no” today will bring the crisis while Israel stands poised near the Arab capitols. A “no” tomorrow, after all the hapless and confused compromises and “initiatives,” will bring the same crisis near Tel Aviv, Beersheva and Netanya.

    This is what happens when foolish and confused Israelis, by refusing to pay the price of saying “no” to the stinking fish of pressure, attempt to eat it, submit to getting beaten over it and then learn to their dismay that there is no escape from the difficult decision that they should have made in the first place.

    Let the Israeli government, its men of “new initiative” and the Jewish leaders in America understand several basic axioms:

    1)America is committed to the Roger Plan and the world’s interpretation
    of Security Council Resolution 242, i.e. Israeli withdrawal from all (but insignificant) parts of the lands of 1967. This includes the Golan Heights, Gaza, the entire West bank and the entire Sinai as well as changing Jerusalem’s present Jewish sovereignty status.

    2)American interests lie, in the minds of most officials in Washington, with
    Arab oil, the huge potential Arab market and with supplanting Soviet influence with American. This means, at best, an “even-handed” policy rather than a pro-Israeli one.

    3)America is moving steadily to recognition of the “Palestinians” as a people
    and of whomever they decide to have as their leaders. Those leaders are clearly the PLO and already the move to “moderate” the PLO, “public-relations-wise” is underway so that Washington can more easily pressure Israel into recognizing them.

    4)The Ford-Kissinger administration is determined to prevent stagnation and
    will pressure Israel into concession after concession.

    5)No administration will got o war for Israel and no administration will continue
    the present aid level no matter what Israel does or concedes. The frantic search for human allies will end as unsuccessfully as those Jews in the past who forgot what faith in the Jewish G-d was and who turned to Egypt or Assyria or other “allies” for help, only to learn to their dismay that the allies betrayed them.

    Stinking fish are not made to be eaten or to get whipped or. One must have the courage to look at the truth and pay the bitter price of honesty. America is tired of the Israeli nuisance and wishes it would ea t the fish already. The time to loudly proclaim “no” is now.

    Comment by yamit82 — March 15, 2010 @ 1:59 pm



  6. The stinking fish.

    Comment by ayn reagan — March 15, 2010 @ 2:07 pm



  7. Hilary Threatens Israel: We’ll Send Jimmy Carter to Build Your Settlements

    Comment by yamit82 — March 15, 2010 @ 2:15 pm



  8. My sister voted for Hillary and then Obama.

    She was complaining about Obama and Insultgate.

    I told her to shut the fuck up…you voted for the bum…don’t complain to me.

    She was “insulted”.

    Unlike Netanyahu, I did not apologize.

    I do not want to hear Obama Jews kvetching about what they have wrought.

    Suffer in silence.

    When you vote for an anti-Semite, you lack the moral standing to object to anti-Semitism.

    Zero tolerance for hallucinatory Hebrews.

    Comment by ayn reagan — March 15, 2010 @ 2:21 pm



  9. My sister voted for them as well but still loves them. Want to trade sisters?

    .Zero tolerance for hallucinatory Hebrews.

    http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/files/2008/12/barbra-streisand.jpg

    Comment by yamit82 — March 15, 2010 @ 3:08 pm



  10. Want to trade sisters?

    No.

    You take mine and I’ll take Lauraline.

    I will be making the best deal since Peter Minuet.

    Comment by ayn reagan — March 15, 2010 @ 3:23 pm



  11. Upon further review, you can also have my mother.

    In fact, take the whole family…please.

    You don’t even have to give me anything in return.

    Addition through subtraction.

    Comment by ayn reagan — March 15, 2010 @ 3:26 pm



  12. You take mine and I’ll take Lauraline.

    The little thing is in her first heat, trying to keep her away from the guy cats which is a full time effort. She is one determined little kitty. I figured I had a few more months before and put off the vet. He is on reserve duty and don’t know when he is coming back.

    she is growing but still a clutz , her rear is not coordinated with her front so she waddles like a duck. First uncoordinated cat I ever saw.

    She’s Not for trade, even for your beautiful mother. :)

    Say hi from me.

    Comment by yamit82 — March 15, 2010 @ 4:15 pm



  13. My beautiful mother?

    Comment by ayn reagan — March 15, 2010 @ 4:17 pm



  14. My beautiful mother? and beautiful daughter!

    Comment by yamit82 — March 15, 2010 @ 5:43 pm



  15. The Obama argument is that Jews building houses obligates Muslims to murder Americans.

    How pathetically demented.

    How gutless.

    Classic anti-Semitic scapegoating.

    One billion Muslims.

    Thirteen millions Jews.

    So when Muslims aggress against America, it is safer for cowards to scapegoat the Jews.

    Cowardice.

    When an Afghan Muslim kills an American soldier with an Iranian weapon, it is the fault of the Jews?

    That is the belief of Barack HUSSEIN Obama?

    And Netanyahu cannot summon the words to put such a bigot on the defensive?

    He cannot ridicule Jew-baiting demagogues into submission?

    Hapless putz.

    Comment by ayn reagan — March 15, 2010 @ 12:01 pm

    Can I have permission to copy and paste this exact statement when having it out with leftists?

    Comment by Laura — March 16, 2010 @ 12:20 am



  16. My guess is that as the US Muslim population outstrips the Jewish one, Democrats will no longer feel like they have to pretend to support Israel.

    Comment by Calvary — March 16, 2010 @ 1:09 am



  17. Can I have permission to copy and paste this exact statement when having it out with leftists?

    Yes.

    Comment by ayn reagan — March 16, 2010 @ 1:13 am


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