FMCAT condemns Al-Qaeda, suicide bombers

A message from the Free Muslim Coalition Against Terrorism:

Resolution of Condemnation by Muslims Against Al Qaeda, ALL Suicide Bombers and other Terrorists

On Friday, March 11, a remarkable thing happened in Madrid, Spain. A large number of clerics from the Islamic Conference of Spain issued a very tough fatwa (religious opinion) which condemned Osama bin Laden as an "apostate" and as a "kafir" (an infidel) and for violating the teachings of Islam.

This public and formal condemnation goes much farther than the Bush Administration or any other government has gone to date.

We, Muslims in America and Canada appreciate this courageous step by the Spanish Muslim clerics and we seek to support them and go one step further by offering a road map to winning the ideological battle against all terrorists who justify their crimes by relying on a fascist misinterpretation of Islam.

At present, al Qaeda and its clones call their murderous cause "Jihad" (Holy War), their assassins "mujahiddin" (holy warriors) and "martyrs" and their destiny Paradise. All too often, these are the same words that we (including virtually all Governments,
academia, media and assorted other "experts") carelessly use for them -- thus tending to confirm their patently false terms of self-sanctification.

The use of words with positive meanings is deadly and has helped many terrorists market their evil and criminal acts as acts of good and justice. We seek to define these evil criminals with negative terms rather than let them define themselves with positive terms. The Islamic labels that must be applied are those of "Hirabah" (unholy ar) by "mufsidoon" (evildoers) on their way to "Jahannam" (eternal Hellfire), instead.

By rejecting the terms used by terrorist suicide murderers we can go a long way in winning the ideological war against terrorists.

Now that these faithful and brave Spanish clerics have broken the ice and have declared an authentic Jihad against the al Qaeda evildoers, other terrorists and suicide bombers, we request the Muslim clergy and Muslims in general to reiterate their support for this condemnation without equivocation or explain their refusal to do so.

In redefining Bin Laden, all terrorists, including ALL suicide bombers as criminals we offer the following Resolution of Condemnation:

a) we denounce the ongoing attack on America, the West, Muslims and all innocent people of the world. This attack is not "Jihad" (Holy War) but a heinous crime and a mortal sin of Hirabah (Unholy War which is a forbidden "war against humanity");

b) we label those who are fomenting and waging this forbidden type of warfare as mufsidoon (evildoers) and muharibun (unholy warriors) and not as the mujaheddin (holy warriors) or the shahiddin (martyrs) they falsely claim to be;

c) we affirm that unless these evildoers cease their evil ways, turn themselves to the proper authorities, we will oppose them, expose them, fight them with writing, speaking, and organizing for they are criminals, and enemies of Muslims and all civilization;

d) we proclaim that this forbidden slaughter of innocent people, fomenting of hatred among religions, communities and nations, and condemnation of everyone but themselves as "infidels" and many other violations of Quranic law are not the will of God but rather, criminal acts and the evil deeds of those who wants to play the role of God;

e) we conclude that such blasphemy and crimes against humanity-- by Al Qaeda, ALL suicide bombers and other terrorists no matter what their cause may be is an unholy war by evildoers and criminals who are placing young Muslims, and themselves, in mortal danger of eternal damnation and world-wide condemnation;

f) we conclude that the death, destruction and mayhem perpetrated by Al Qaeda, other terrorists and ALL suicide bombers have not been approved by the merciful, compassionate and just God of us all but, rather, by a hate-filled and violent group of criminal fascist cults which are plainly shaitaniyah (satanic) in nature;

g) we affirm that it is a moral, ethical and Islamic duty for all Muslims to uphold these declarations by aiding and abetting established authorities around the world in apprehending these mufsidoon (evildoers) and muharibun (unholy warriors).

h) Let it be known that this resolution of condemnation does not solely represent the beliefs of the authors. This resolution is inspired by the Islam we know and our holy book, the Koran as we understand it. The Koran has many paragraphs that support our beliefs and this resolution. In one chapter for instance, the Koran reads that "whoever slays a soul…is considered like slaying all of humanity and whoever save a soul shall be considered as saving all of humanity." In another chapter the Koran reads that "Wars are not holy in anyway when Lives are lost." With this resolution we are merely affirming the Islam we know and rejecting the misinterpretation of Islam by the terrorists. With this resolution, we seek to take our religion back from the criminals who hijacked it and encourage all Muslims around the world to stand up to the terrorists, fanatics and extremists because no Muslim can afford to remain silent. The civilized world is counting on us.

Finally, we offer the following "bill of particulars" which fully justifies our resolution of condemnation against Al Qaeda, ALL suicide bombers and other terrorists:

* Wanton killing of innocents and noncombatants, including Jews, Christians, Muslims and people of other faiths

* Decapitating the bodies of the living and desecrating the dead bodies of perceived enemies

* Committing and enticing others to commit suicide bombings with the false promise of paradise as a reward for their terrorism. Committing suicide is a sin in Islam with no exceptions

* Fomenting hatred among communities, nations, religions and civilizations

* Ruthless warring against non Muslim-nations in which Islam is freely practiced

* Issuing and inspiring unauthorized and un-Islamic fatwas (religious opinion)

* Forcing their version of Islam on Muslims, when the Quran clearly says that there shall be "no compulsion in religion"

* Distorting the word "infidels" to include all Christians, all Jews and many Muslims, when the Quran calls them all "People of the Book" (the Old Testament ), "Sons of Abraham," and calls Jesus one of God’s primary messengers and the Messiah. Moreover, the Quran specifically says that Christians, Jews, Muslims and others who believe in God and who do good work for mankind are destined for heaven

* Deliberate misreading, ignoring and perverting of passages of the Quran to suit the arrogant and soul-less ambitions

This resolution has been endorsed by Muslims in America, Canada and the Middle East. We ask all Muslim organizations, mosques and Muslims in general to sign on this resolution by sending an email to Kamal Nawash at president@freemuslims.org. Once we receive a complete list of endorsers, we seek to publish this resolution in various news papers and web-sites catering to Muslims. Will you join us and help take back our religion for the terrorist and evildoers?

Of course, I am all for this, and so it is only with great reluctance that I point out a few problems:

1. Thomas Haidon noted about the Spanish fatwa, "This seems to be a positive development. I would like to see, however, the analysis undertaken by the Ulema Council in reaching their decision. Is it just a statement? I want to see the steps taken to arrive at that decision. Without them this fatwa is worthless." The same thing applies here: without detailed reasoning from Islamic sources, the assertions about Islam made in this document are just that: assertions. Without Islamic sources to back them up, they will do nothing to convince the jihadists that what they are doing is wrong on Islamic grounds. And if they can't do that, what purpose do they serve?

2. The same thing applies to FMCAT's statement that "the use of words with positive meanings is deadly and has helped many terrorists market their evil and criminal acts as acts of good and justice. We seek to define these evil criminals with negative terms rather than let them define themselves with positive terms. The Islamic labels that must be applied are those of "Hirabah" (unholy war)by "mufsidoon" (evildoers) on their way to "Jahannam" (eternal Hellfire), instead." That's great, but where is the Islamic theology to back it up? This reminds me of a non-Muslim gentleman who has contacted me several times, asking for my support in getting people to stop calling the acts of Osama and his ilk "jihad" and call them "hirabah" instead. I told him that I'd be happy to do so if he could provide grounds from Islamic theology to do so. Of course he couldn't, but that hasn't stopped him from getting a platform at State, the DoD, the DHS, etc.: he tells them what they want to hear. As for me, I will stop calling it "jihad" when Osama and Co. stop doing so -- because they are convincing Muslims to join their ranks by appealing to Islamic teachings, and until we acknowledge that, we cannot defend ourselves adequately against it. Calling it by another name will do nothing -- unless you think that if Churchill had stopped calling Hitler's men "Nazis" and started calling them "Dumbheads," he would have compelled the Germans to lay down their arms.

3. There are, of course, a couple of texts presented here to support this resolution: "The Koran has many paragraphs that support our beliefs and this resolution. In one chapter for instance, the Koran reads that 'whoever slays a soul…is considered like slaying all of humanity and whoever save a soul shall be considered as saving all of humanity.' In another chapter the Koran reads that 'Wars are not holy in anyway when Lives are lost.'" Now, I have read the Qur'an countless times and I can't remember ever seeing the latter verse. Also, I just searched for it and can't find it either. Can someone please point out to me where it is? Wherever it is, it seems to contradict numerous other verses, such as this one: "To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall We give him a reward of great (value)" (4:74). If a war is not holy when lives are lost, why would someone who is slain or gets victory in a war be rewarded by Allah?

And as for the former verse, it has never been understood in Islamic theology as a prohibition of jihad warfare -- in fact, it comes in the context not of a universal principle, but of a warning to the Jews that they will be punished if they reject Muhammad. Thus I hope that Kamal Nawash and FMCAT will explain why they think this verse takes precedence over others such as 9:5 and 9:29, and how they plan to convince their fellow Muslims of that fact. Ibn Kathir, the great Qur'anic commentator, explains it thusly: "The Ayah states, whoever kills a soul without justification -- such as in retaliation for murder or for causing mischief in the land -- will be as if he had killed all mankind..." How would FMCAT reply to a Muslim who said, in line with this, that modern terrorist attacks are a legitimate retaliation for murders allegedly committed by Americans, as well as for "mischief in the land" perpetrated by the Great Satan?

4. Same question with suicide bombings. The Qur'an guarantees Paradise to those who "slay and are slain" for Allah: "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth" (9:111). On what grounds, then, does FMCAT call this a "false promise"?

Again: I am all for this in principle. But unless it is strong enough to convince Muslims that violent jihad is not the way, it has no value. Thus I hope FMCAT will strengthen it in view of my questions here.

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What's with the value judgment concerning ".. going much further than Bush has gone to date.." Are we all to convert to Islam and then condemn Islam's actions from within the regime? Just one moment of humility would have made this overture stronger in my opinion.
Bush has spoken from his position and now they are speaking from theirs. Any expression of gratitude would have made this statement more viable.
Nonetheless, it gives a sense of the beginning of an honest endeavor .. Will Islam be able to contain (and then extend such honesty ) into real time actions? Now there's the rub ..

I ‘m sorry to report that I have read many of the essays on the free mus site and it is all standard apologetic clap trap.
nothing to stand on scripturally and depending on your ignorance to be convincing .
I was hopeful when I first heard of them but soon became disillusioned the fact is the only way for Muslim to fight Islam is to leave Islam You cant make chicken salad out of chicken shit .
It ‘s taqiyya and when called on it they responded with a rude suggestion.

Robert:

Hopefully when you convey your concerns to FMCAT, you may be able to get some results regarding your points and possibly set up a positive dialog with this organization and Kamal Nawash.

Go to the FMCAT website, and you realize at once that this is a tiny, nearly non-existent group, dedicated to the Promotion, or Self-Promotion, of one Kamal Nawash.

Here is the first thing that leaps out at you (or rather, the second, just after a picture of "Kamal Nawash" talking to Bill O'Reilly):

"Nawash sat down with with Emigrant Media for a two hour, in depth documentary about terrorism, himself, and the Free Muslims organization. Watch it now (Windows Media Player format)
Nawash spoke to Al-Jazeera recently.
Nawash is a regular guest on Fox News Channel, including shows like Dayside with Linda Vester, Fox and Friends Weekend."

Kamal Nawash, Kamal Nawash, Kamal Nawash. That is what FMCAT is all about. Unlike Ibn Warraq, or Ali Sina, or others whose websites are devoted with single-mindedness to analyzing the theory and practice of Islam, Kamal Nawash's "FMCAT" should be seen as what it is -- as a vehicle for the promotion of one Kamal Nawash. He recently ran, and lost, for political office recently. He will run again, and he will present himself as a Brave New Muslim, and point to this FMCAT statement, so utterly and wilfully ignoring the doctrine of naskh (abrogation), of adducing passages, ripped out of their context and made to appear to mean what they do not, in context, mean.

Particularly amusing is his use of the following:

"whoever slays a soul…is considered like slaying all of humanity and whoever save a soul shall be considered as saving all of humanity." Does Kamal Nawash not know what follows that statement (taken originally from Jewish texts)? If he does not, he should go back and study his Qur'an? What about the following sentence, that refers to those one can kill -- for revenge or because they "commit mischief in the land"? What does he think that phrase "commit mischief in the land" means for Believers, or has been taken to mean? As for that phrase "there is no compulsion in religion" -- that too has been explained carefully by Qur'anic commentators. Indeeed, at www.dhimmitude.org, one can find an article by an Iranian cleric who demonstrates what, for Muslims, that phrase really means.

And in any case, what are the various onerous, and often crushing, disabilities which non-Muslims must endure under the Sharia (has Nawash heard of the Sharia? Has he read Antoine Fattal? No? Too busy running for office, or holding press conferences, or issuing well-publicized meaningless "Resolutions of Condmnation" a full 2 1/2 years after 9/11, because all of a sudden the scales fell from some Muslim eyes, and it suddenly was realized that Bin Laden was an "apostate"? Uh-huh.).

The political (and financial -- for wouldn't it be great to be the Self-Appointed, Self-Annointed Good Muslim who can be hired by a televion network to appear regularly to give the "Good Muslim" point of view) ambitions of Kamal Nawash are just one more example. It is not that he is a sinister figure, deliberately trying to mislead. It is just that he is a man on the make, and if making it requires playing fast and loose with the texts, and continuing to keep unwary Infidels unwary -- hell, so be it. What does he care about really coming to grips, Ali Sina or Ibn Warraq style, with what Islam teaches?

Spare us, please, more of this quasi-nonsense, because based on a wilful and highly tendentious reading of a few passages in the Qur'an (and while we are at it, what about the Hadith? What about the events of Muhammad's life, in the Sira? Any reason to invoke, or to avoid invoking, what is contained in Hadith and Sira?) which will no doubt be hailed by Tom Friedman and other Brilliant Commentators on Islam: Kamal Nawash, the Great Hope for Islam.

Basta.

I am reminded of the imam in the German Mosque he really thinks something different, but his public face to the infidels was one of friendship and mutual-loving.

I suppose I am being negative, I would love this to be more than just propaganda to try to discolate the effective campaign to educate people on the truth about Islam, but I do not think so.

Some French news for you all, on radio the imam of the main mosque in Lyon was bemoaning the kidnapping of the French journalist which was making the French even more negative about Islam than they already are. He was spouting out about how unfair it is, I would think that being in the top floors of the World Trade Centre on 9/11 was rather a bit worse when it comes to unfairness...

There was also something on TF1 this week where the campaign to cut money from terrorist was impacting the financial well-being of the extensive mosques in France. Pictures of beared and sandelled men holding out buckets to make donations were shown on TV. Well sometimes the war on terror has some other cultural benefits I guess.

Its taqiyya!

One more thing: the non-Muslim mentioned by Robert above, who apparently has been strutting around the DoD and elsewhere explaining that all we have to do is understand that Bin Laden (as if he were all that mattered, when is simply one local and temporary manifestation of a world-wide and permanent impulse) has not been conducting Jihad but rather "hirabah" again relies on the wilful ignorance of the intended audience, and on the eagerness of that audience to believe that the problem is not one that involves central tenets of Islam, but somehow can, by sleight of word, be waved away.

This is variant on Humpty-Dumptyism -- "when I use a word, it means what I want it to mean" becomes "when Bin Laden or others use a word (Jihad) it means somethiing else (hirabah)."

And we all know what happened to Humpty Dumpty.

And nobody could put him together again, not in a month, not in a year, not in 1350 years of Easter Sundays.

Somehow, this kind of declarations sounds worse to me than Bin Laden's threats.

Because, thinking of it, I'd rather fight terrorists, even if it should cost me my life, than live under Islam's pile of lies. So I'd keep my conscience clear – you have to die one day or another, so what. And, while I think that the West sure is capable to win a hard war, I often doubt it would do well against such smart, soft, Islamists.

The real danger is not the sword, it is the bad faith.

The oft quoted passage from the koran, 'whoever killed a human being...shall be regarded as having killed all of humanity ...etc' is about the only seemingly peaceful one that they can come up with in order to lull the kaffirs into a false sense of security.

Have you ever noticed that when people quote this verse they never name the surah and ayat in contrast to when people quote from Scripture as they nearly always name chapter and verse?

The full verse is 'And that was why we laid it down for the Israelites that whoever killed a human being except for murder or other villainy in the land shall be regarded as having killed all mankind, and whoever saved a human life shall be regarded as having saved all mankind' (Surah 5:32).


But it all depends on how you define villainy.
In the 6th surah it reads 'And who is more wicked than the man who denies the relevations of Allah and turns away from them?' (Surah 6: 157).

In other words, that means anyone who does not become a Muslim, hence all none Muslims are regarded as committing villainy, hence if they kill one of us it is not regarded as 'having killed all of mankind'.


These people in Spain say that Christians should not be regarded as infidels but as 'people of the book'. This is how Mohammed termed them in the early stages when his following was weak and he wanted to try and convert Christians to Islam.

However in the 5th Surah it says:
'Unbelievers are those who declare God is the messiah, the son of Mary' (Surah 5:18).

The most important things for people to understand about the koran is that where there are contradictions the later verses when Muhammed was strong abrogate the earlier ones when he was weak.

The early ones are named in some korans as the 'Mecca surahs' and the later ones as the 'Medina surahs'.

There is a recurring theme from RS regarding these types of statements that emanate from this type of muslim group, namely that no matter what the group says it will contradict the quoran and hadith. That may be so, but there seems to be a predisposition on RS's part that they cannot possibly mean what they say. I think it is possible that they do mean what they say (in this case anyway) and that the fact that the quran etc can't back them up is a matter for theological debate elsewhere. I don't care how muslims groups dress things up, the quran is full of $hit, violence and perfidy but at somepoint we must accept that a lot of muslims want to hang on to their faith in god and their core beliefs but discard the the stuff they really would prefer wasn't there. I don't think it serves any purpose to say "I know you want to be a good person and denounce terrorism but you can't, Islam isn't like that."

The poster above takes issue with Robert Spencer's skepticism. But his skepticism and worry are based not on a desire to discourage those who, born into Islam, for some reason cannot make a complete break with it. He is addressing, in the same breath, both that "tiny handful" of non-extremists who may exist, but who must be distinguished from the very large group of those who either do accept Islam, with all that that menacingly means for Infidels, or who do nothing to help Infidels understand that danger and everything to cover it up.

There is something about this vehicle for Kamal Nawash's ambitions that doesn't -- wash. If he misstates, or takes carefully out of context, or makes up verses, then what is Spencer to do? Allow it to pass, the way 99% of the people covering it will allow it to pass (oh, why we're handing out Nobel Prizes to Sistani, why not to Kamal Nawash, why not to Irshad Manji, why not to every last real or feigned dissenter from Islam who nonetheless keeps letting Infidels think it is only a matter of time before the "good" Muslims "reclaim" their Islam.

Again and again one finds every sort of falsity, every kind of taqiyya and tu-quoque. Taqiyya is not limited to outright falsehood. A definition of falsehood here would appropriately be:

Any defense of Islam or of Muslims, or any seeming criticism of Islam or of Muslims, which in its effect will tend to mislead Infidels as to the real nature of Islam."

If someone born into Islam simply cannot find the psychological strength to jettison it entirely, or would like to have some "identity" (god knows why people need labels and groups, but apparently they do), and out of filial piety or embarrassment cannot come clean about Islam, or even see what is there, and pretends to believe that by criticising this or that "extremist" but in the process covering up the real meaning of Qur'anic passages (and carefully leaving completely unmentioned Hadith and Sira) that this in any way helps Infidels who are constantly being bombarded with a blend of threats to sue and an oily presentation of Islam that is completely misleading -- well, such efforts deserve to be analyzed, and not clapper-clawed by the hands of the vulgar.

It certainly is heartening to know that you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all the time. No, we here on JW/DW are not taken in by one Mr. Kamal Nawash. Islam is indeed the 'Humpty Dumpty' of the 21st century (here's me tipping my hat to Hugh). When Islam falls (and it will), no-one will be able to put it back together again. This Easter, I am humbly reminded of the price Christ payed for my eternal freedom from the second death. To Mr. K. Nawash take note, man is not sick and needs to get better, man is dead in their sins and needs a resurrection. Best of luck with your crusade (oops, there's THAT word again) Kamal but we here at JW/DW aren't holding our breath.

Last October there were planned terrorist strikes in Spain which were thwarted.

My feeling is the Muslims in Spain must be wondering how much it would take before the Infidels are provoked into losing their good nature and turning nasty too.

My feeling is this is just an attempt to whitewash Islam to cover their backs from any likelihood of an backlash.

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One thing that was missing was any thing said about threats and voilence against people who had left Islam.

Hugh, methinks you are a bit too rough on ROPMA. On LGF some time ago, poster Evariste, whose boyhood was in America, but whose adolescence was in Amman, Jordan, explained his visceral disgust when he heard spoken Arabic. He wrote in a white heat, remembering all the hatred, bile, and ignorance he was subjected to in Jordan, and how he had to practice taqiyya himself, pretending also to show hate for the Israelis and Americans, while inside he deeply longed to be free like them. When he reached adulthood, he was able to return to America. He renounced Islam, changed his name, and pretty much turned his back on everything he had known. Cooling off, he more coolly assessed that he lived with a death sentence that more than a few cousins would be glad to deliver. He lost all his family, including the sweet, human attachments to his parents and siblings. Viewed coolly, he thought, very few people could do what he did--the price is too great. He gave up every bit of a past, every bit of a security net. He had the benefit of an American childhood to prepare him, but a child reared in Islam doesn't get any training in liberty, in living and making decisions like a free man. I know many, many Muslims who devoutly believe there is no compulsion in religion, that whoever kills a man, it is as if he killed the whole world. It doesn't mean they're right, but they believe it, they cling to it. If they didn't, the cognitive dissonance between their lives as actually lived in the West and their perfected religion would rip them apart.

You're right that the efforts of these people in the middle, such as FMCAT, do nothing to help infidels, and their fatally flawed arguments deserve scrutiny. But pity seems the more appropriate emotion here, just as pity was appropriate to the Eastern European trapped in a perfect socialist system that he, too, could not escape. The difference was that he, at least, could spit on the system and not lose everything. Have a little fellow-feeling for the poor bastard who goes through his entire life never once able to speak what he truly feels to be true.

Nice, but unnecessary. You muslims can practice your sorry religion somewhere else. You do not belong here. Go away.

JTF/Ethelred posted this link a while back. Thanks.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina50318.htm

There are no nice words for FMCAT in it. It’s also a scathing indictment of islam as a cult. I highly recommend it.

“Islam is a cult created by a psychopath. There is no other way to put it.”

This is probably naive but, if so ‘officially’ verified a cult (not really sure how one does that), it would seem our battles would be all down hill. Is anyone pursuing that front, officially? Who decides which is cult or religion? I want to talk to ‘em.

“Accept nothing but the total destruction of Islam. Remember, Islam does not tolerate you, you must not tolerate it.”

islam=cult

I want my time back. I've been picking through Islamic theology for a few years now. Is there a form I can fill out and submit to the ulema? I've yet to learn anything of value. I learned more useful philosophy spending two years in the Cub Scouts.

As RS and HF have noted, statements are encouraging. Without Koranic and ahadith reference, they are telling Westerners what we want to hear, hoping that we won't know the difference.

Talk is cheap. Their statements need to be backed by action such as turning in the jihadists. I'm not going to hold my breath.

As I scan this litany of lofty ecumenical loveliness, I hear heavenly violin music and the cooing sound of an angelic choir lulling the reader. And vanilla incense fills the nostrils.

But, Mohammad was a pedophile, and anyone who uncritically follows the teachings of this desert warlord is a closet megalomaniac with delusions of global dominion and a misogynist Paradise.

The sweet words, stolen from the Talmud and New Testament, used to hypnotize the unsuspecting with familiar-sounding phrases of 'love' and 'tolerance', are like chocolate-coating on a hand grenade.

Tasty, -for about two and a half seconds.

Then the unpleasant flavor of screaming shrapnel, -before oblivion swallows the duped.

And spare me the rest, FMCAT.

Since the first word in you acronym is laughable.

"Free" Muslim?

That, in itself, is un-Islamic.

And anti-Koranic.

You must "submit". There is no "freedom". That is a decadent Western value.

Repent, and return to the true meaning of Allah.

Along with the more honest Osama and his slimy ilk.

It's harder for squeamish Westerners to strangle a snake when it is wearing a cute puppy dog mask.

But we shall.

That's all I get from this self-deluding drivelfest.

PIty is urged here. But pity for whom? What about pity for those who have been crushed by Islam, beginning with the long-suffering Israelis continuing to resist, without quite being able to comprehened, the full venom of the endless Jihad against them, for the Hindus beaten to death in Bangladesh or Hindus within India who, if they try to explain what Islam has meant for Hindustan are often mocked by other, "advanced" Hindus wishing to distance themselves and prove themselves with-it and Western, or for the Arabic-using but non-Arab Maronites in Lebanon who were abandoned by The Western world during the past half-century, pity for the Christians in Pakistan, in Indonesia, and even those who have been forcibly dhimmified in Egypt and Iraq.

And then pity for those born into Islam over 1350 years who never had a chance to develop, those who might have been scientists in a non-Muslim environment, or might have been painters or sculptors outside of Islam, or might have composed music, or might have done all kinds of things -- but did not have the chance because of the strictures of Islam.

Pity for those who simply would like to have some room to think for themselves, but who are born into societies where thinking for oneself is not permitted.

But for those who live here, such as Kamal Nawash and his associates, and who are not intent on helping Infidels understand what Islam is all about, but simply on self-promotion and on gathering unmerited hosannas for their "bravery" and so on, by mistating, or obscuring, the teachings of Islam -- no pity at all is appropriate.

Longtime Lurker (strange name):

'I know many, many Muslims who devoutly believe there is no compulsion in religion, that whoever kills a man, it is as if he killed the whole world. It doesn't mean they're right, but they believe it, they cling to it. If they didn't, the cognitive dissonance between their lives as actually lived in the West and their perfected religion would rip them apart.'

You really hit the nail on the head here. I know lots of Muslims who fall into that category.

Taquiyya this Fatwa may be, but to my mind Taquiyya is self-deception as well as deceiving of infidels. Many Muslims are decent people (= bad Muslims).

This Fatwa is sincere - ineffective but sincere. Would-be reformers of Islam are perhaps intellectually dishonest, but intellectual dishonesty is better than limb lopping, stoning and so on. Softly softly catchy monkey - building up 'Islam-lite' may help to do the trick and force the cockroaches of Islam proper into the light. Then zap 'em!

Downloaded from www.qoqaz.net, February 2001
qoqaz = Caucasus

The Islamic Ruling on the Permissibility of Martyrdom Operations

Did Hawa Barayev Commit Suicide or achieve Martyrdom?

Contents:

Introduction
Definition of Martyrdom Operations
Evidences for the issue
Verdicts of scholars concerning one who attacks the enemy alone
The issue of using prisoners as a human shield
The view of the majority concerning one who assists in killing
Definition of a shaheed (martyr)
Definition of suicide
Synopsis
Conclusion

Introduction

All praise is due to Allah, Sustainer of the Universe, Who informs us that:

"Were it not for Allah's repelling some people by means of others, the earth would surely have become corrupt." [Quran]

The choicest peace and blessings be on the Chief of the Prophets, who has said,

"By [Allah] in Whose Hand is my soul! I have surely wished to be killed in the path of Allah, then brought to life, then killed [again], then brought to life, then killed!" [Bukhari, Muslim and others]

And who has also said, "Act, and each will be eased to that for which he was created." [Bukhari, Muslim and others]

Allah legislated Jihad for the dignity of this Ummah, knowing that it is abhorrent to us. People today have neglected this great duty, and pursued what they love, thinking good lies in what they love, and failing to realize that good lies in that which Allah has legislated.

Allah has blessed us, here in Chechnya, by allowing us to fight unbelief - represented by the Russian army, and we ask Allah to strengthen and assist us. We praise Allah also for allowing us to have scored victories over the enemy. Some of us have fulfilled their pledges; others are still waiting. Verily, Allah has fulfilled His promise to us, and granted us dignity through Jihad. Our martyred brothers have written, with their blood, a history we can be proud of, and their sacrifices only increase us in eagerness for our own martyrdom, so as to meet Allah, and to be resurrected with the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), his companions and all the other prophets, martyrs and righteous ones.

The Ummah has become used to hearing, through its history, about men who sacrifice their lives for the religion, but they are not as familiar with women doing the same. The young woman who was - inshaa-Allah - martyred, Hawa Barayev, is one of the few women whose name will be recorded in history. Undoubtedly, she has set the most marvellous example by her sacrifice. The Russians may well await death from every quarter now, and their hearts may appropriately be filled with terror on account of women like her. Let every jealous one perish in his rage! Let every sluggish individual bury his head in the dirt! She has done what few men have done. Every supporter of the truth should prepare to give the like of what she has given. The Ummah may well be proud that such a paragon has appeared in our midst. We are certain that an Ummah that contains people like her will never - by Allah's leave - become devoid of good.

However, while we were in the midst of rejoicing over our sister's self-sacrifice, and we were still supplicating for her to achieve forgiveness and mercy from Allah, we received mail which clouded our joy. It came, not from an enemy or envier, but rather from a handful of people whom we presume wanted to offer constructive advice. However, they erred, and accused the great Mujahidah, Hawa Barayev, of having committed suicide, saying that it was not permissible for her to have acted thus. Nor did they think it was permissible for us to mention her account on our website, rather that we should have criticized her. They mentioned evidences which they had misunderstood to imply what they claimed. In this study, we shall clarify that Hawa Barayev - and similarly `Abdur-Rahman Shishani, Qadi Mowladi, Khatam, his brother `Ali, `Abdul-Malik and others - are, Allah willing, in Gardens of Eternity, in the bodies of green birds, betaking themselves to lanterns hanging from the `Arsh. This is how we regard them, but we do not sanctify anyone before Allah.

Before we embark on a detailed exposition concerning the Islamic verdict on martyrdom operations, it is appropriate for us to first present a brief, to-the-point response:

Firstly : If you did not know, could you not ask? It is not appropriate for someone who is unaware of a verdict to make sweeping statements accusing others of wrongdoing. If those who criticized us had only investigated the issue first, they would have found that the issue is, at worst, a disagreed issue among scholars, such that we cannot be criticized for following legitimate scholarship.

Secondly : We request our respected brothers, who seek the truth, not to criticize us for anything without backing the criticism with verdicts of scholars, and [especially] the understanding of the Pious Predecessors.

Thirdly : Dear brothers and sisters! Not every martyrdom operation is legitimate, nor is every martyrdom operation prohibited. Rather, the verdict differs based on factors such as the enemy's condition, the situation of the war, the potential martyr's personal circumstances, and the elements of the operation itself. Thus, one may not give a verdict on such operations without having an understanding of the actual situation, and this is obtained from the Mujahideen, and not the unbelievers. How, then, can you accuse us of ignorance when you are unaware of our situation, let alone the specific details of the operation in question?

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Definition of Martyrdom Operations, and their Effect on the Enemy

Martyrdom or self-sacrifice operations are those performed by one or more people, against enemies far outstripping them in numbers and equipment, with prior knowledge that the operations will almost inevitably lead to death.

The form this usually takes nowadays is to wire up one's body, or a vehicle or suitcase with explosives, and then to enter amongst a conglomeration of the enemy, or in their vital facilities, and to detonate in an appropriate place there in order to cause the maximum losses in the enemy ranks, taking advantage of the element of surprise and penetration. Naturally, the enacter of the operation will usually be the first to die.

Another technique is for an armed Mujahid to break into the enemy barracks, or area of conglomeration, and fire at them at close-range, without having prepared any plan of escape, nor having considered escape a possibility. The objective is to kill as many of the enemy as possible, and he will almost certainly die.

The name 'suicide-operations' used by some is inaccurate, and in fact this name was chosen by the Jews to discourage people from such endeavours. How great is the difference between one who commits suicide - because of his unhappiness, lack of patience and weakness or absence of iman and has been threatened with Hell-Fire - and between the self-sacrificer who embarks on the operation out of strength of faith and conviction, and to bring victory to Islam, by sacrificing his life for the upliftment of Allah's word!

As for the effects of these operations on the enemy, we have found, through the course of our experience that there is no other technique which strikes as much terror into their hearts, and which shatters their spirit as much. On account of this they refrain from mixing with the population, and from oppressing, harassing and looting them. They have also become occupied with trying to expose such operations before they occur, which has distracted them from other things. Praise is to Allah. Many of their imminent plans were foiled, and furthermore, Putin issued a severe condemnation of the Home Affairs and Defense Ministers, placing the responsibility on them, and threatening high-level reshufflings in the two ministries. Those troops who are not busy trying to foil martyrdom operations are occupied with removal of Russian corpses, healing the wounded, and drawing out plans and policies from beneath the debris. This is all on the moral level.

On the material level, these operations inflict the heaviest losses on the enemy, and are lowest in cost to us. The cost of equipment is negligible in comparison to the assault; in fact the explosives and vehicles were captured as war-booty, such that we returned them to the Russians in our special way! The human casualty is a single life, who is in fact a martyr and hero gone ahead to Gardens of Eternity, inshaa-Allah. As for the enemy, their losses are high; after the last operation, they had over 1,600 dead and wounded, and the most crucial concentration of Russian forces in Chechnya was completely destroyed.

All of this was achieved by the efforts of only four heroes. We feel sure that the Russians will not remain long in our land with such operations continuing. Either they will fear aggregation, in which case they will become easy targets for attack, or they will gather together to combat the assaults, in which case the martyrdom operations will be sufficient - Allah willing - to disperse them. If they wish to keep matters under control, they would need more than 300,000 troops in every city, and this is no exaggeration.

One can see how much fear the operations in Palestine caused, and that they were a major factor in convincing the Jews to grant self-rule to the Palestinians, hoping that they could be more easily controlled in that way. In Chechnya, the damage is much greater than in similar operations in Palestine, on account of Russian fortification being much less than that possessed by the Jews.

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Evidences for the Issue

Before going into the verdict concerning the operations, citing the pronouncements of scholars about them, and resolving some unclear issues, it is appropriate for us to first present some of the Shar`i (Islamic law) evidences, and then follow them up with discussion and application thereof. We will not analyze the chains of transmission of each narration separately; we will regard it as sufficient that the basis of the evidence is in the collections of Bukhari and Muslim, and hence any reports outside of these two books is strengthened by them.

1 - "Verily, Allah has purchased from the believers their selves and their wealth, in return for Heaven being theirs. They fight in the path of Allah and they kill and are killed " [Qur'an, 9:111]

Hence, any scenario in which the Mujahid offers the purchase price in order to attain the merchandise is permissible unless an evidence exists to specifically prohibit it.

2 - "How many a small force has overcome a numerous force, by the permission of Allah. And Allah is with the steadfast ones." [Qur'an, 2:249]

This verse indicates that the measure of power in the Shari`ah is not primarily linked to material, worldly measures.

3 - "Among mankind is he who sells himself seeking the pleasure of Allah. And Allah is Pitying towards the servants." [Qur'an, 2:207]

According to the explanation of this verse by the Sahabah, as we cite below, one who sells himself for the sake of Allah is not considered to have committed suicide, even if he immerses himself into 1,000 of the enemy forces without armour.

4 - In the hadith in Sahih Muslim, containing the account of the boy and the king in the story of the Trenches referred to by Surah al-Buruj, we find that the unbelieving king tried various means to kill the believing boy, failing each time. Eventually, the boy told him, "You will not be able to kill me until … you gather people on one plateau, hang me on a palm-trunk, take an arrow from my quiver, place it in the bow, say, "In the name of Allah, the Lord of the boy," and shoot me." The king did this, and thereby managed to kill the boy as predicted, but the people who had gathered began saying, "We believe in Allah, the Lord of the boy!" Thereupon, the king ordered trenches to be dug, and fires lit in them, and then for the people to be made to jump into them if they refused to give up their faith. This was done, and eventually a woman was brought with her infant, and she hesitated to jump on account of him, but he said, "O mother! Remain steadfast for you are upon the truth."

The boy, in this hadith, ordered the king to kill him in the interest of the religion, and this indicates that such a deed is legitimate, and not considered suicide.

5 - Imam Ahmad has narrated in his Musnad (1/310) [and a similar narration is in Ibn Majah (4030)] that Ibn `Abbas said that the Messenger of Allah said, "On the night in which I was taken by night, a pleasant fragrance came my way, and so I said, "O Gabriel! What is this pleasant fragrance?" He said, "This is the fragrance of the hairdresser of Pharaoh's daughter, and [of the hairdresser]'s children." I said, "What is her situation?" He said, "While she was combing Pharaoh's daughter's hair one day, the comb fell from her hand, so she said, "In the name of Allah." Pharaoh's daughter asked, "[You mean] my father?" She said, "No, rather my Lord, and the Lord of your father, is Allah." She said, "Can I tell him that?" She said, "Yes."" The hadith goes on to describe that a huge brass pot was heated, and it was ordered for her and her children to be cast therein. She requested from Pharaoh - and he acceded to her request - that her bones and her children's bones be gathered in a single cloth and buried. Her children were then thrown into the cauldron one by one before her eyes, until they got to a suckling infant, and it seemed she wavered on account of him, but he said, "O mother! Jump in, for the torture of this world is lighter than the punishment of the Hereafter." So she jumped in.

The narrators of the chain [of Imam Ahmad's version] are reliable, apart from Abu `Umar al-Dareer, whom al-Dhahabi and Abu Hatim al-Razi considered truthful, and Ibn Hibban considered reliable.

According to this hadith, the child was made to speak, as was the child in the preceding story of the trenches, telling the mother to jump into the fire, which indicates the virtue of this deed.

6 - Abu Dawud (3/27) and Tirmidhi (4/280) have narrated (and Tirmidhi graded it as sahih) that Aslam ibn `Imran narrated that when they were fighting a mighty army of the Romans, a man in the Muslim army attacked the Roman ranks until he penetrated them. People shouted, saying, "SubhanAllah! He has contributed to his own destruction." Thereupon, Abu Ayyub al-Ansari stood up, and said, "O people! You give this interpretation to this verse, whereas it was revealed concerning us, the Ansar, when Allah had given honour to Islam and its supporters had become many, whereupon some of us secretly said to one another … "Our wealth has been depleted, and Allah has given honour to Islam and its supporters have become many, so let us stay amidst our wealth and make up what has been depleted of it." Thereupon, Allah revealed to His Prophet [meaning] "And spend in the Path of Allah, and do not contribute to your own destruction" [Qur'an, 2:195] refuting what we had said. So, the destruction lay in staying with our wealth and repleting it, and abandoning combat." Abu Ayyub remained fixed until he [was killed and] was buried in Rome.

Al-Hakim authenticated it, saying it conforms to the criteria of Bukhari and Muslim, and Dhahabi corroborated him. Nasa'i and Ibn Hibban also narrated it. Bayhaqi included it, and other narrations in his Sunan in a chapter entitled, "Permissibility of a man or men fighting alone in the enemy land," thereby citing it as evidence for the permissibility of advancing against a group, even if the more likely result is that they will kill him.

In this hadith, Abu Ayyub explained that the verse (Qur'an, 2:195) does not apply to one who plunges into the enemy ranks alone, even though it may seem to people that he is destroying himself. The Sahabah tacitly confirmed this explanation of his [by not objecting].

7 - Ibn Abi Shaybah has narrated in his Musannaf (5/338) that Mu`adh ibn `Afra' asked the Messenger of Allah, "What makes Allah laugh upon His slave?" The reply: "[The servant] immersing himself into the enemy without armour." Mu`adh then took off his armour and fought until he was killed.

This hadith is a clear evidence for the virtue of Jihad operations in which it is most likely that one will die, and it indicates that Jihad has some special rules which permit what may normally be prohibited.

8 - Ibn Abi Shaybah has extracted (5/289) [and similarly Tirmidhi (2491 and 2492, the latter narration he classified as sahih) and Nasa'i (1597 and 2523), and Ahmad (20,393), as well as Tabarani (in al-Kabir, with a hasan chain) and Ibn al-Mubarak (in Kitab al-Jihad, 1/84)], "Three [categories of people] Allah loves,…" and among them is "a man who was in a dispatchment and met the enemy, and they were defeated, but he faced them with his chest until he was killed or victorious." Al-Hakim also narrated it, and said it is sahih.

9 - Ahmad narrated in his Musnad (6/22) from Ibn Mas`ud that the Prophet said, "Our Sustainer marvels at two men: a man who stirs from his bed … to salah … and a man who fights in the path of Allah, and his companions are defeated, and he realizes what awaits him in defeat and what awaits him in returning [to combat], but he returns [to combat] until his blood is spilled. Allah says, "Look at My servant who went back [to combat] hopeful and anxious for what is with Me, until his blood was spilled."

Ahmad Shakir said,: its chain is sahih. Haythami said in Majma` al-Zawa'id: Ahmad ad Abu Ya`la narrated it, as did Tabarani in al-Kabir, and its isnad is hasan. Abu Dawud and Al-Hakim narrated it in abbreviated form, and Al-Hakim authenticated it. Ibn al-Nahhas said: even if there were only this single authentic hadith, it would suffice us as evidence for the virtue of plunging [into the enemy ranks].

10 - Muslim has narrated from Abu Hurayrah, "Among the best of lives for people is a man who clasps the reins of his horse in the path of Allah, rushing on its back; whenever he hears a cry [of battle] or advancement towards the enemy, he hurries to it, seeking death and being slain with eagerness."

This indicates that seeking to be killed and pursuing martyrdom are legitimate and praiseworthy acts.

11 - Bayhaqi has narrated in Al-Sunan al-Kubra (9/100) with a sahih chain from Mujahid that the Prophet sent out `Abdullah ibn Mas`ud and Khabbab as one dispatchment, and Dihyah as a dispatchment on his own.

This indicates that regardless of the level of risk in a Jihad operation, it remains permissible by default, and the greater the risk, the greater the reward.

12 - Bukhari and Muslim have narrated that Talhah shielded the Prophet from arrows in the Battle of Uhud, and his hand was crippled thereby.

13 - Bukhari and Muslim have reported that Salamah ibn al-Akwa` was asked, "For what did you pledge allegiance to the Prophet on the Day of Hudaybiyyah?" He said, "For death."

14- Many have reported from Muhammad ibn Thabit ibn Qays Ibn Shimas, when the Muslims were disclosed on the Day of Yamamah, Salim, the freed-slave of Abu Hudhayfah, said, "This is not how we used to act with the Messenger of Allah." Then, he dug a trench for himself, and stood in it carrying the flag, and fought until he was killed as a martyr on the Day of Yamamah.

This and the next report indicate that steadfastness is desirable, even if it leads to death, and Salim attributed this type of action to the [days of] the Messenger of Allah.

15 - Ibn Jareer Tabari has narrated in his Tarikh (2/151) that in the Battle of Mu'tah, Ja`far ibn Abi Talib took the flag and fought until he became immersed in the fighting, whereupon he turned to a light-colored horse he had and wounded it [so he could not escape], then he fought until he was killed. Hence, JA`far was the first Muslim to wound his horse [in this manner].

16 - Muslim has narrated that a man heard a Sahabi saying, when the enemy was near, "The Messenger of Allah said : The doors of Heaven are under the shade of the swords." The man, upon hearing this, got up and asked for verification of the hadith. When it was confirmed, he turned to his companions, gave them the greeting of salam, broke and discarded the scabbard of his sword and then advanced to the enemy with his sword, striking them until he was killed.

[The original study in Arabic contains 40 narrations, but for brevity we have omitted the remainder].

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Verdicts of Scholars Concerning one who Attacks the Enemy Alone

Having established the permissibility of plunging into the enemy and attacking alone even when death is certain, we proceed and say that the martyrdom operations are derived from this principle, realizing that the prohibition of suicide relates to deficiency or absence of faith. However, the former generations did not have knowledge of martyrdom operations in their current-day form, for these evolved with the changes in techniques of warfare, and hence they did not specifically address them. However, they did address similar issues, such as that of attacking the enemy single-handed and frightening them with one's own death being certain. They also deduced general principles under which the martyrdom operations fall, and in doing so they relied on evidences such as those we have mentioned in the previous section. There is one difference between the martyrdom operations and their classical precedent, namely that in our case the person is killed by his own hand, whereas in the other he was killed by the enemy. We also explain that this difference does not affect the verdict.

A. Scholars of the Sahabah and Tabi`in

1 - Ibn al-Mubarak and Ibn Abi Shaybah (5/303) have reported, through a sahih chain, that Mudrik ibn `Awf al-Ahmasi said, "I was in the presence of `Umar when the messenger of Nu`man ibn Muqrin cam to him and `Umar asked him about the people, whereupon he replied, "So-and-so and so-and-so were hit, and others and others whom I do not know." `Umar said, "But Allah knows them." [The messenger] said, "O chief of the believers! [There was] a man who sold his life." At this Mudrik said, "That is my maternal uncle, by Allah, O chief of the believers! People claimed he has contributed to his own destruction." `Umar said, "They have lied (or: are mistaken). Rather, he is among those who have bought the Hereafter with this world." Bayhaqi mentioned that that was on the day of Nahawand.

2 - Ibn Abi Shaybah has extracted (5/322) that a battalion of unbelievers advanced, and a man of the Ansar faced them and attacked them, and broke through the ranks, then returned, repeating this twice or thrice. Sa`d ibn Hisham mentioned this to Abu Hurayrah, who recited the verse (meaning), "Among mankind is he who sells himself seeking the pleasure of Allah."

3 - Al-Hakim has extracted in the Book of Tafseer (2/275) and Ibn Abi Hatim (1/128), with a similar narration recorded by Ibn `Asakir, that Bara' was asked about the verse (meaning), "And spend in the Path of Allah, and do not contribute to your own destruction..."; does it refer to a man who encounters the enemy and fights until he is killed? He said, "No, rather it is a man who commits a sin, and then says Allah will not forgive him." Al-Hakim said this is authentic according to Bukhari's and Muslim's criteria. This explanation of the verse was narrated by Tabari in his exegesis (3/584) from Hudhayfah, Ibn `Abbas, `Ikrimah, Hasan Basri, `Ata', Sa`id ibn Jubayr, Dahhak, Suddi, Muqatil and others.

B. Verdicts of Renowned Exegetes


1 - Ibn al-`Arabi says in Ahkam al-Qur'an (1/116, and see also Qurtubi's tafseer 2/364), commenting on the verse, (meaning), "And spend in the Path of Allah, and do not contribute to your own destruction...," "There are five views about [the meaning of] destruction [here]:


Do not give up spending [in the path of Allah]
Do not go out without provision
Do not abandon Jihad
Do not take on an enemy you are not capable of withstanding
Do not despair of forgiveness
Tabari said: "It is general [in scope], and there is no contradiction between them." He is right, except regarding plunging into the enemy, for scholars have disagreed concerning this. Qasim ibn Mukhaymirah, Qasim ibn Muhammad and `Abdul-Malik from among our [Maliki] scholars said there is no objection to a man single-handedly taking on a large army, if he is strong and [the action] is sincerely for Allah. If he has no power, then that is self-destruction. It has been said [by some] that if he is seeking martyrdom and his intention is sincere, he can attack, for his goal is to kill one of the enemy forces, and that is clear in the verse (meaning), "Among mankind is he who sells himself seeking the pleasure of Allah." The correct view by me is that of permissibility of rushing into an army one cannot withstand, for it contains four [possible] aspects:

Seeking martyrdom
Inflicting losses [on the enemy]
Encouraging the Muslims to attack
Demoralizing the enemy, showing them that if one man can do this, what will the totality be capable of!"
2 - Qurtubi says in his Tafseer (2/364), "Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Shaybani, the student of Abu Hanifah, said: If a man single-handedly attacks 1,000 pagans, there is no objection to it if there is hope of success, or inflicting loss on the enemy, otherwise it is disliked, for then he would expose himself to death without benefit to the Muslims. As for someone whose aim is to embolden the Muslims to emulate his feat, it's permissibility is not far-fetched, for it entails benefit to the Muslims in some ways. if his intent is to frighten the enemy, and demonstrate the Muslims' strength of faith, its permissibility is not far-fetched. If there is benefit in it for the Muslims, then giving one's life for the strengthening of the religion and weakening of the unbelievers, then it is the noble rank praised in the verse, (meaning), "Among mankind is he who sells himself seeking the pleasure of Allah." and other verses."

3 - Shawkani says in Fath al-Qadeer (1/297) about the verse of self-destruction, "The reality is that the words have general implication, and are not specific to the circumstances of revelation, and so everything which may be described as worldly or religious self-destruction is covered by it, as stated by Ibn Jareer al-Tabari. Among that which comes under this verse is a man attacking an enemy army which he can neither overcome, nor have any effect beneficial to the Mujahideen."

This implies that if there is a benefit it is permissible.

C. Texts of the Madhahib

1 - Hanafi

Ibn `Abideen says in his Hashiyah (4/303), "There is no objection to a man fighting alone, even if he thinks he will be killed, provided he achieves something such as killing, wounding or defeating [the enemy], for this has been reported from a number of the Sahabah in the presence of the Messenger of Allah on the Day of Uhud, and he praised them for it. If, however, he knows he will not inflict any loss on them, it is not permissible for him to attack, for it would not contribute to the strengthening of the religion."

2 - Maliki

Ibn Khuwayz-Mandad said, as cited by Qurtubi in his Tafseer (2/364), "As for a man single-handedly attacking 100 or more enemy troops ... this has two scenarios: If he is certain, or reasonably so, that he will kill the subject of his attack, and emerge safe, then it is good, and similarly if he is reasonably certain that he will be killed, but will inflict loss or cause damage, or have a beneficial effect for the Muslims, then it is permissible also." Statements from Qurtubi and Ibn al-`Arabi have already preceded.

3 - Shafi`i

In the completion of Al-Majmu` (19/291) by al-Muti`i, we find, "If the number of the unbelievers are twice the numbers of the Muslims, and they do not fear perdition, it is obligatory to stand firm ... If they are more convinced than not of destruction, then there are two possibilities:

1. That they may turn back, based on the verse (meaning), "do not contribute to your own destruction..."
2. That they may not turn back, and this is the correct view, based on the verse, (meaning), "When you encounter a force, remain steadfast...", and because the Mujahid only fights in order to kill or be killed. If the number of the unbelievers exceed twice the numbers of the Muslims, then they may turn back. If they are more convinced than not that they will not be destroyed, then it is better for them to remain steadfast so that the Muslims are not routed. If they are more convinced than not that they will be destroyed, then there are two possibilities:

That they are obliged to turn back, based on the words of Allah (meaning), "do not contribute to your own destruction..."
That it is recommended for them to turn back, but not binding, for if they are killed they will attain martyrdom."
4 - Hanbali

Ibn Qudamah says in Al-Mughni (9/309),
"If the enemy is more than twice the Muslims' number, and the Muslims are reasonably certain of victory, then it is preferable to remain steadfast on account of the benefit [involved], but if they turn back it is permissible, for they are not immune to destruction ... it is conceivable that they are obliged to stand fast if they are reasonably certain of victory, on account of the benefit, but if they are reasonably certain or being defeated by remaining and being unscathed by turning back, then it is preferable for them to turn back, but if they remain put, it is permissible, for they have a goal of martyrdom, and it is also possible that they will be victorious. If they are reasonably certain of being routed whether they remain put or turn back, then it is preferable for them to remain steadfast to attain the rank or martyrdom, ... and also because it is possible they might be victorious."

Ibn Taymiyyah says, in Majmu` al-Fatawa (28/540),
"Muslim has narrated in his Sahih the story of the people of the trenches, in which the boy ordered his own killing for the benefit of the religion, and hence the four imams have allowed a Muslim to immerse himself in the enemy ranks, even if he is reasonably certain that they will kill him, provided there is benefit in that for the Muslims. "

5 - Zahiri

Ibn Hazm says in Al-Muhalla (7/294), "Neither Abu Ayyub al-Ansari nor Abu Musa al-Ash`ari criticized a man plunging alone into a raging army and remaining steadfast until he was killed... It has been authentically reported that a man from among the Sahabah asked the Messenger of Allah about what makes Allah laugh upon a servant, and he said, "His immersing himself into the enemy without armour," whereupon the man removed his armour and entered the enemy [ranks, fighting] until he was killed."

D. Some Analysis

The hadith of the boy is the strongest of evidences for this issue. The hadith explains that when the boy saw that his being killed in a specific way would be a means for spreading the religion, and hence he advised the king - from whom Allah had protected him hitherto - how to kill him, for spread of the religion and people's entering into it was more weighty in his eyes than his remaining alive, and he thereby contributed to taking his own life. Yes, he did not take it by his own hand, but his opinion was the sole factor leading to his killing. This is just as if a man, suffering from painful wounds, asked someone else to kill him; he would be as guilty of suicide as if he had taken his own life, regardless of who did the killing, for he requested it. Similarly, Allah praised those who believed in the boy's Lord; those who were being forced to jump into the pits of fire for refusing to renounce their faith. Nay, even the infant spoke, encouraging its mother to advance when she hesitated about entering the fire. They were praised in Surah al-Buruj, which described their fate as being gardens beneath which flow rivers, and they are called successful. The story of Pharaoh's daughter's hairdresser is similar. We have cited evidences from our Shari`ah which fortify these two hadiths, and nothing has appeared to contradict sacrificing one's life for raising Allah's word. Hence, the content of these two hadiths is part of our Shari`ah, according to the majority of scholars.

In fact, we see that this sort of operation was carried out in the presence of the Prophet, and after him by the Sahabah, not once but many times. Furthermore, protection of the religion is the greatest service a Mujahid performs, and the evidences do not leave us with any doubt that a Mujahid may sacrifice his life for the religion. Talhah shielded the Prophet with his hand, and this supports the permissibility of a person sacrificing himself for others in the interests of the religion.

E. Synopsis

It has transpired that scholars gave, to the issue of plunging single-handed into the enemy with reasonable certainty of being killed, the same verdict as in cases of death being certain, such that whoever permits the latter permits the former.

Further, the majority of scholars gave conditions for the permissibility:

1. Intention
2. Infliction of losses on the enemy
3. Frightening them
4. Strengthening the hearts of the Muslims

Qurtubi and Ibn Qudamah allowed plunging into the enemy with only a sincere intention, even if no other conditions are fulfilled, for seeking martyrdom is legitimate. Since there is no explicit stipulation of the majority's conditions in narrations, this view appears preferable. The majority deduced their conditions from general standards of the Shari`ah, but the general need not restrict the specific. Yes, we do say that if there is no benefit to the Muslims or the Mujahideen, an action should not be carried out, and is not the most optimal practice, but this is apart from the original permissibility of the act, for to condemn one seeking martyrdom without a firm basis is an injustice.

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The Issue of using Prisoners as a Human Shield

The issue of killing Muslim prisoners whom the enemy has used as a human shield resembles the issue at hand, although there is also a difference between them. The similarity is that both involve ending a Muslim life in the interests of the religion. The difference between the issues is that killing those used as a shield was permitted by scholars out of necessity, for there does not exist any text permitting the taking of someone else's life, rather it derives from the public interest overshadowing the individual interest. Hence, killing prisoners used as a shield is based on the rule of necessity permitting the unlawful, and of choosing the lesser of two evils when one is inevitable. As for martyrdom operations, no such rules need be applied, for we have clear texts encouraging plunging into the enemy ranks in spite of the certainty of being killed, and it is not a case of necessity.

Killing another person is an even greater sin than killing oneself; Qurtubi cites in his Tafseer (10/183) consensus of scholars that anyone who is coerced to kill someone else may not comply. Hence whoever allows killing another Muslim, where no textual evidence exists, but for an overwhelming religious benefit, should similarly allow killing oneself for an overwhelming benefit, for the taking of one's own life is less serious than taking someone else's life. This would be even if we did not have any texts to support martyrdom operations, although we actually do have specific evidences, as mentioned earlier.

The Muslim army is ordinarily prohibited from killing not only Muslims, but also dhimmis (unbelievers living as protected subjects of the Muslim state), as well as old men, women and children from among the unbelievers. If Muslim prisoners of war are used by the unbelievers then it is not permissible to fire on them except in cases of dire necessity. In the case of women and children of the unbelievers, however, they could be fired upon for an expediency of war even if it is not dire necessity, for war may need such action, but the intention should not be specifically to kill the non-combatants. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him and his Household) was asked about the pagans being hit by night, and some women and children being killed in the process, and he replied, "They are from among them." [Bukhari and Muslim] In the case of Muslims, however, firing is permissible only if abstaining will lead to a wholesale harm, such as a greater number of Muslims being killed than those being used as a shield, or the Muslims being defeated and their land overrun. In such a case, any Muslims killed as a result will be raised up according to their intentions.

The majority consider it obligatory to attack the enemy in cases of necessity, even if it leads to the members of a human shield being killed. [See: Shawkani's Fath al-Qadeer (5/447), Mughni al-Muhtaj (4/244), Hashiyat al-Dusuqi (2/178), and Ibn Qudamah's al-Mughni (10/505)] The author of Mughni al-Muhtaj gives two conditions which should be satisfied:

1. That the Mujahideen try their best to avoid hitting the shield deliberately.
2. That they do not intend to kill the people in the shield.

Ibn Taymiyyah said, "If the unbelievers use Muslims as a human shield, and the unbelievers cannot be repelled without killing [the Muslims], then [the Muslim army may fire], for inflictions and afflictions may smite one in this world who does not deserve it in the Hereafter, and it counts as a misfortune for him [for which he may be rewarded]. Some expressed this by saying, "The killer is a Mujahid and the killed one is a martyr.""

The majority of Hanafis and Malikis, as well as Imam Sufyan al-Thawri, have permitted attacking when the enemy have used a shield of Muslims, whether or not abstaining would be detrimental or lead to defeat, reasoning that otherwise Jihad would never take place. [See: Fath al-Qadeer (5/448), Jassas' Ahkam al-Qur'an (5/273) and Minah al-Jaleel (3/151)] The weakness of this position is clear, in that the sanctity of a Muslim life is greater than to allow its taking without a clear proof, and moreover such shields are not universally used, and so Jihad would not necessarily come to a halt.

In the case of women children and old men from among the unbelievers being used as shield, the majority of Hanafis, Shafi`is and Hanbalis have allowed attacking even if it is not a dire necessity. [See: Al-Siyar al-Kabeer (4/1554) Mughni al-Muhtaj (4/224) and Al-Mughni (10/504)] The Malikis differed, but for brevity we will not mention their reasoning. [See: Dardeer's Al-Sharh al-Kabeer (2/178) and Minah al-Jaleel (3/150).]

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The View of the Majority Concerning one who assists in Killing

Plunging into the enemy ranks without hope of escape is the greatest means by which a Mujahid contributes to his death, and contributing to one's own death is just like killing oneself, just as one who deliberately causes the death of someone is like one who actually killed him. The majority of scholars, from among the Malikis Shafi`is and Hanbalis, have subjected one who kills someone by consequence to being killed in retaliation just as in the case of direct murder.

Among the textual bases for this is that which Bukhari has reported, that a boy was assassinated, whereupon `Umar said, "Even if all the inhabitants of San`a took part in it, I would kill them all." From a rational angle, if killing in retaliation were to be halted in such a case, murder would increase, for murderers would merely use one or more accomplices without fear of being executed for the crime. The monetary compensation of blood-money would not deter all murderers, especially the well-off. Hence it is fitting for all the participants to be executed, and in a similar light the Qur'an describes one who kills one person to be like one who has killed all mankind. [See: Al-Sayl al-Jarrar (4/397), Tafseer al-Qurtubi (2/251), Majmu` Fatawa Ibn Taymiyyah (20/382), Al-Bahr al-Ra'iq (8/354), Sam`ani's Qawati` al-Adillah (2/243)]

So, if one who kills himself by plunging into the enemy is praised, then this praise applies independent of the weapon and manner in which he gives up his life. We have already mentioned in evidence 14 the Sahabi's action, and no criticism or stipulation has been recorded from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) of such a practice. Hence, if allowing oneself to be killed by the enemy is allowed when it is in the interests of the Muslims, then clearly killing oneself for the same purpose should be allowed, and in such a case a Mujahid is exempted from the general texts which prohibit taking one's own life.

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Definition of a Shaheed (martyr)

Nawawi has enumerated [in Sharh Sahih Muslim (1/515) and Al-Majmu` (1/277)] seven explanations for why the martyr is called Shaheed:

(1) Because Allah and the Prophet have testified concerning his entry into Heaven
(2) Because he is alive before his Lord
(3) Because the angels of mercy witness the taking of his soul
(4) Because he will be among those who testify over nations on the Day of Resurrection
(5) Because his faith and good ending have outwardly been witnessed
(6) Because he has a witness to his death, namely his blood
(7) Because his soul immediately witnesses Heaven.

Ibn Hajar has mentioned fourteen means by which a person can acquire the title, some of them specifically related to being killed in the path of Allah and others not. [See: Fath al-Bari (6/43)]

Jurists have given the technical definition of a martyr as follows:

According to the Hanafis:

"One who is killed by the pagans, or is found killed in the battle bearing a mark of any wound, whether external or internal - such as blood emerging from an eye or the like." [Al-`Inayah published on the margins of Fath al-Qadeer (2/142) and Hashiyat Ibn `Abideen (2/268)]

"Anyone who is killed while fighting pagans, or rebels, or brigands, by a means attributed to the enemy - whether directly or by consequence - is a shaheed, anyone who is killed by a means not specifically attributed to [an action of] the enemy is not considered a shaheed." [Zayla`i's Tabyeen al-Haqa'iq, (1/247). See also Al-Bahr al-Ra'iq (2/211)]

According to the Malikis:

"One who is killed while fighting warring unbelievers only, even if killed on Islamic land such as if the enemy attacked the Muslims, [even if he] did not fight on account of being unaware or asleep, [and even if] killed by a Muslim who mistook him for an unbeliever, or trampled by a horse, or mistakenly smitten by his own sword or arrow, or by having fallen into a well or from a cliff during the fighting." [Dardeer's Al-Sharh al-Kabeer, (1/425)]

According to the Shafi`is:

"One who is killed in fighting unbelievers, facing and not running away, for the raising of Allah's word…and not for any worldly motive." [Mughni al-Muhtaj (1/350) and see Fath al-Bari (6/129)]

According to the Hanbalis:

"One who dies in a battle with the unbelievers, whether male or female, adult or not, whether killed by the unbelievers, or by his own weapon in error, or by having fallen off his mount, or having been found dead with no mark, provided he was sincere." [Kash-shaf al-Qina`, 2/113. See also Al-Mughni (2/206)]

From the above, it transpires that the majority - apart from the Hanafis - do not consider the identity of the killing party to be a factor in determining whether the victim is a shaheed. The majority view emerges preferable, based on:

i. A hadith narrated by Bukhari (4196) in which `Aamir while trying to kill an enemy man during the battle of Khaybar, mistakenly killed himself instead. Someone said he had invalidated his good deeds, but the Prophet said, "Whoever says that is lying (or mistaken). Verily, he is has two rewards," and he coupled two of his fingers, "He is a striver and a Mujahid."

ii. A hadith narrated by Abu Dawud (2539) about a Sahabi who mistakenly hit himself with his own sword, and people asked, "Is he a shaheed?", whereupon it is reported that the Prophet said, "Yes, and I am a witness for him."

Some people may waver about the permissibility of martyrdom operations because the Mujahid is killing himself. In order to dispel this confusion, we may remind ourselves that the Shari`ah often gives a differing verdict about two actions which externally appear the same, but differ in the intentions behind them. E.g.

Marrying a divorced woman is permissible, but doing so with the sole intention of making her permissible to the first husband is prohibited.
Paying back a loan with more than was borrowed is allowed, but if the excess is stipulated in the contract, it is prohibited, being riba.
One who performs Jihad in order to raise aloft the word of Allah is a Mujahid, but one who fights for the sake of showing off bravery is among the first who will be taken to Hell.
Mistakenly striking oneself with one's own weapon makes one shaheed (according to the majority) but deliberately killing oneself to escape the pain of wounds makes one deserving of Hell.
These examples, all based on the hadith, "Verily, actions are only according to intentions…", clearly support the notion that the verdict concerning the shaheed does not differ based on who the killing party is, provided the intention is pure. So, one who has a bad intention and is killed by the enemy is deserving of the Fire, as would be the case if he kills himself out of pain. And, one who has a sincere intention will be in Heaven, whether he is killed by the enemy, or kills himself in error. And, one who helps in killing himself for the good of the religion will be in Heaven, like the boy, inshaa-Allah.

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Definition of Suicide

Suicide here refers to killing oneself on account of anger, pain or some other worldly motive, and scholars are unanimous that it is prohibited and moreover a major sin, making the offender deserving of Hell - either eternally if he legitimizes the act, or for a finite duration [if he did not legitimize it and died as a Muslim]. "Do not kill yourselves. Verily, Allah is merciful to you. And, whoever does that, out of animosity and , We shall burn him in a Fire. And that is easy for Allah." [Qur'an, 4:29-30; See Tafseer al-Qurtubi, (5/156)]

"Among those before you, there was a man with a wound, and he was in anguish, so he took a knife and cut his hands, and the blood did not stop until he died. Allah said, "My servant has hastened the ending of his life, so I have prohibited Heaven to him." [Bukhari and Muslim]

"Whoever strangles himself will be strangling himself in the Fire, and whoever stabs himself will be stabbing himself in the Fire." [Bukhari and Muslim]

The authentic ahadith on this subject are many. In fact, we have been ordered not to even wish for death.

"Let not any of you wish for death on account of harm which has befallen him. But, if he must, he should pray, 'O Allah! Keep me alive as long as life is better for me, and take my life when death is better for me." [Bukhari and Muslim]

All of these texts prohibiting suicide related to killing oneself for worldly motives such as pain or anguish or lack of patience, and not for raising aloft the Word of Allah. We have already cited the evidences for permitting a Mujahid to plunge into the enemy ranks without armour, and these exempt the Mujahid from the generality of the suicide texts. Can one then say that one who kills himself in order to lift the Word of Allah - to inflict losses on the enemy, to frighten them, and with a sincere intention - can we describe him as one committing suicide? That is a grave slander. We say that the prohibition of suicide is on account of its resulting from weakness or lack of faith, whereas the Mujahid in a martyrdom operation is killing himself on account of the strength of his faith. The boy in the account of the Trenches referred to in Surah al-Buruj effectively killed himself for such a reason, and his deed was praiseworthy. Similarly, the Prophet wished for death in the Path of Allah not once but thrice [the hadith was cited at the start of the article], and it was permissible because it was not on account of harm which had befallen him, but rather it emanated from strong faith. So, when the rationale of the prohibition of suicide becomes clear, one arrives at the conclusion that martyrdom operations are permissible and praiseworthy when undertaken for some religious benefit.

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Synopsis

We have arrived at the conclusion that martyrdom operations are permissible, and in fact the Mujahid who is killed in them is better than one who is killed fighting in the ranks, for there are gradations even among martyrs, corresponding to their role, action effort and risk undertaken. Then, we explained how martyrdom operations are the least costly to the Mujahideen and most detrimental to the enemy. We have heard, as you must have, that most scholars today permit such operations; at least 30 Fatawa have been issued to this effect. We explained how this issue is derived from the issue of plunging single-handedly into the enemy ranks; something which is praiseworthy by the agreement of jurists. We then further stated that we preferred the view that such an action is permissible even if martyrdom is the only goal, although it is certainly not the optimal practice. Martyrdom operations should not be carried out unless certain conditions are met:

1. One's intention is sincere and pure - to raise the Word of Allah.
2. One is reasonably sure that the desired effect cannot be achieved by any other means which would guarantee preservation of his life.
3. One is reasonably sure that loss will be inflicted on the enemy, or they will be frightened, or the Muslims will be emboldened.
4. One should consult with war strategy experts, and especially with the amber of war, for otherwise he may upset plan and alert the enemy to their presence.


If the first condition is absent, the deed is worthless, but if it is satisfied while some others are lacking, then it is not the best thing, but this does not necessarily mean the Mujahid is not shaheed.

We also explained how causing a death carries the same verdict as actual killing. Hence one who plunges without armour into the enemy ranks, being certain of death, just like one who engages in a martyrdom operation, is effectively causing his own death, but they are praiseworthy because of the circumstances and intention, and hence are not considered to have committed suicide. We also clarified that [according to the majority] the identity of the killer does not have an effect on whether the Mujahid will be considered shaheed. This dispels the wavering arising from the fact that the Mujahid is taking his own life. Thus, such operations could take on any of the five Shar`i verdicts depending on intention and circumstances. Finally, we clarified that taking one's own life is not always blameworthy; rather it is contingent on the motives behind it. So, we conclude that one who kills himself because of his strong faith and out of love for Allah and the Prophet, and in the interests of the religion, is praiseworthy.

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Conclusion

Finally, we should point out that this topic needs a much more expansive study. However, we are thankful to Allah for having allowed us to complete this. If we are correct, it is due to Allah, and if we have erred, then all humans are prone to error. Finally, let the scholars and students of knowledge approach us with their feedback and advice, for we are in need of such help. Let them fear Allah in discharging their responsibility to us.

And peace and blessings be upon the Messenger of Allah, who rightly strove in the Path of Allah until he left this world, and also upon his Household and Companions and those who follow them in goodness until the Day of Judgment.

And our final words are praise to Allah, Lord of the Worlds.

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I don't plan to make a habit of placing long posts here, but the above is useful. The websites qoqaz and azzam were both operated by al-Qaeda sympathizers and members in the UK.

Are al-Qaeda members Sahaba (companions of the phony "prophet") pious emulators, engaged in a revival of authentic Islam? Bin Laden was photographed many times in Afghan caves, with the Islamic University' Sahih (reliable)-Bukhari Hadith texts in the background. It is my belief that al-Qaeda members are authentic Muslims, and that the current crop of Muslims in general, are gradually coming to support al-Qaeda as: neo-Sahaba, and Rushdun (followers of the "straight path," or "istiqat al-sirah" of the Rushdunis, or "rightly guided caliphs" that were personally trained by terrorist #1 of Islam). National polls of popularity of al-Qaeda in the Muslim tyrannies, consistently reveal majority support.

It is my belief that we must treat Muslims as mortal enemies of Western Civilization, and act accordingly. They cannot reform ecclesiastically, as did Judaism and Christianity, and those self-proclaimed "abdallahs" (slaves-of-allah) cannot embrace liberty and democracy, and maintain fidelity to the unholy koran. Indulge the license on a State scale that al-Qaeda takes as a terrorist movement, and you will get al-Qaeda governments elected under the cover of "freedom." Bush's 2-state policy as an Israel-Arab foundation for nominal "peace" is pure folly, that will probably cost him fatal Southern Baptist support by the Fall. Then the Wolfowitz "Democratic-Domino" theory will collapse with Bush's credibility, and the necessary military solution to the Arab-pestilence will be the only option.

When Muslims are upset at what's happening in their religion, my job as a Christian is to let them know they're more than welcome to visit and ask questions come Sunday; and that if they want a Bible to read, they just have to specify which language they're most comfortable with. After all, God's last word to the world is an invitation, not a threat.

However, it is still important to note that there are Muslims--including some who would die before denying that jihad is a divine command-- who nonetheless hate the terrorists and support the US government against them. These folks deserve the full protection of the law and the respect of non-Muslim Americans.

For the record, I am a Christian who believes that there are times when those who bear political authority have the right to wage war (the just war theory). It's not the God-given way to spread the faith; but it is a means whereby the community may be protected in this fallen world.

Elephant, great points .. I'd like to add to 'fear of backlash' that the backlash could also come (this time for real) from the imam's scarier brothers ... when they come into Spain and impose taliban style sharia ... no more drinking for Spain's imams in the local tapas bars .. unless. that is, they can manage it without their heads.

L. Lurker, I'm with you concerning compassion. Is there anything more powerful? Hugh's cautions about pity are well taken ... However, compassion is something else.

epg ... right on ... cheap talk indeed .. how about loyalty to what's better? Can you imagine CAIR having this Action Alert: "Do the Right Thing. Turn in Jihadists Today."? FreeMuslims ought to back up their words with right action.

Hugh, I believe RS when he says FMCAT are talking out their @rse when they say Islam does not teach suicide bombing etc. But like a wife who finds herself in an abusive relationship, they still want to see the good in their partner. Similarly, I believe an awful lot of muslims are in an abusive relationship with their religion. It will take time for them to make the cut but when they turn up at the shelter for the abused, I don't think they should be turned away with "Too bad, you are a muslim, that is just the way things are." I just find that RS is as dogmatic as the muslims when he consistantly responds in this manner.

ajm,

Because, thinking of it, I'd rather fight terrorists, even if it should cost me my life, than live under Islam's pile of lies. So I'd keep my conscience clear – you have to die one day or another, so what.

I found it very liberating when I realized the same thing. Ironically, this has certain similarities to the whole martyrdom culture in Islam, but only superficially. I don't want to die. I don't expect any virgins. I have no desire or religious mandate to kill anyone. But I don't plan on backing down in cowardice and living less than a free life just to prolong the misery.

Religion of Peace My @rse, I agree with you.

Dear "Religion of Peace..."

Speaking of "dogmatic," what about your nickname?

You say: "Similarly, I believe an awful lot of muslims are in an abusive relationship with their religion. It will take time for them to make the cut but when they turn up at the shelter for the abused, I don't think they should be turned away with 'Too bad, you are a muslim, that is just the way things are.' I just find that RS is as dogmatic as the muslims when he consistantly responds in this manner."

I would ask you to produce one instance where I have ever said or written, "Too bad, you are a muslim, that is just the way things are." Those words do not appear in the above post; nor are they implied. If you think that is the point of the above post and others like it, you completely misunderstand me and seem not to have read this: "Again: I am all for this in principle. But unless it is strong enough to convince Muslims that violent jihad is not the way, it has no value."

Why is that so? Because if they say they are Muslims but their Islam is not coherent on Islamic grounds, then they are either trying to deceive non-Muslims or they are deceiving themselves. There are many Islamic sects, and there is room for another that teaches peaceful co-existence with non-Muslims instead of jihad warfare. But if the theology of this hypothetical new sect is so easily refutable, then how will it win recruits? How will it sustain itself against charges of heresy? It won't.

And these problems are made even more urgent by the fact that the Qur'an allows for religious deception (see 3:28 and 16:101). Is FMCAT trying to deceive? I doubt it -- but it cannot be dismissed as a possibility. They would allay all such suspicions by producing proof, or at least viable support, of what they say, if they be truthful.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

First, to ROPMA, I've never seen RS close the door on any Muslim who wished to rationally and reasonably discuss Islam with him. I think the contention here is not with RS, but with Hugh. Without a doubt, Hugh's language is sometimes extreme, such as Fallani's. But then again, extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice, to quote an old teacher of mine.

As for understanding their actions with pity, I never recommended that pity stay the sword. These people are caught in webs of their own making, torn between the inherent violence of their faith, and the innate knowledge that the violence is evil. There, but for the Grace of God and the accident of your being born in the West, go you. Pity them, but don't let down your guard. I don't.

Nothing will change, and FMCAT knows it. Let's award FMCAT the Red Herring Award of the week...
for all the good it (and FMCAT) will achieve.

I love this: "Ruthless warring against non Muslim-nations in which Islam is freely practiced"

Oh, so it's ok to war against a nation that doesn't allow the implementation of Sharia?

"Distorting the word "infidels" to include all Christians, all Jews and many Muslims, when the Quran calls them all "People of the Book" (the Old Testament ), "Sons of Abraham," and calls Jesus one of God’s primary messengers and the Messiah. Moreover, the Quran specifically says that Christians, Jews, Muslims and others who believe in God and who do good work for mankind are destined for heaven."

So it's ok to slay the atheists and agnostics where you find them? Great...