MPAC plays the victim card while denouncing this document below, but nonetheless the organization has a point: this is the kind of walking on eggshells around Muslims that only creates resentment among non-Muslims in a land where there ought to be equality of treatment of all people, regardless of creed. Now if MPAC could come out across the board against special preferences and special treatment for Muslims, and work against all accommodation of Sharia provisions in Britain, we might be getting somewhere.
Absurd Britannia Update: "Don't eat near Ramadan fasters, Home Office staff told," by Jason Lewis in the Daily Mail, September 19 (thanks to James):Home Office staff were officially warned not to eat in front of their fasting Muslim colleagues during Ramadan - in case it made them feel hungry.
The advice came in a taxpayer-funded internal document listing do's and don'ts during the Muslim holy month, which ends this weekend.
But the guide is now at the centre of a row with Islamic groups who said it was more likely to incite hatred of Muslims than promote understanding....
The Muslim Public Affairs Committee, which claims to be fighting a 'political jihad against Islamophobia', attacked the document.
It said: 'It is designed to create more hatred in the hearts of non-Muslims.
'We don't care how much non-Muslims eat in front of us.
'It's never been an issue and never will be and we have never asked for any special treatment or sensitivity from non-Muslims whilst fasting.'
This incident is another example of people bending over backwards to accomodate Muslims while they let their own feelings be hurt by Muslims without complaining. It is time for non-Muslims to tell Muslims that this is enough.
Next we better not breathe in front of Muslims in case they think they won't get enough air and will suffocate.
UK Home Office staff officially warned not to eat in front of Muslims during Ramadan - in case it made them feel hungry
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You know, I scanned this headline very quickly when I first came across it, and read it as "...in case it makes them feel angry". Maybe not so far off.
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The Muslim Public Affairs Committee, which claims to be fighting a 'political jihad against Islamophobia', attacked the document.
It said: 'It is designed to create more hatred in the hearts of non-Muslims.
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What crap. It was designed as a piece of stultifying 'sensitivity' and political correctness--but hardly to "create more hatred in the hearts of non-Muslims".
Notice, too--the MPAC didn't feel that this approach was unnecessary, or mistaken, but was *intentionally malevolent toward Muslims*. It also posits the idea that most non-Muslims have "hatred in their hearts".
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'We don't care how much non-Muslims eat in front of us.
'It's never been an issue and never will be and we have never asked for any special treatment or sensitivity from non-Muslims whilst fasting.'
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Really? Tell that to this poor fellow:
"Morocco: Dissident receives 100 death threats in a week for defying daytime eating ban for Ramadan"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/09/morocco-dissident-receives-100-death-threats-in-a-week-for-defying-daytime-eating-ban-for-ramadan.html#comments
Maybe they're not asking for that in the UK--*yet*.
Kind of makes you want to have a pizza delivered to your local mosque.
l make it a point to eat something in front of Muslims, like eating a snack while in the grocery store lol.. heck we need to go out of our way to make them look uncomfortable and foolish for such thinking. these British elites are out of touch with the local Brits, hope the football players and their fans eat popcorn and drink beer in front of the muslims!
From the daily Mail article: "The advice came in a taxpayer-funded internal document listing do's and don'ts during the Muslim holy month."
I wonder if there will be an equivalent list of "do's and don't's" during Lent, the Twelve Days of Christmas, and Holy Week, as well as for Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, and Sikh holidays.
Top off that pizza with pepperoni and maybe Canadian bacon.
What will happen next? Will restaurants close in daylight hours? Maybe the food courts in the mall will close during Ramadan. No lunch for anyone, lest it discomfit a Muslim.
What about the grocery store? Lots of ready-to-eat food is available. There are coffee shops in some groceries.
The same could be said for someone on a diet. Let's all eat only in our homes. That way we can't disturb anyone who can't eat what we are eating.
Now if only we could get THEM to stop their public calls to prayer. No one worries if that makes a non-Muslim "uncomfortable" or disturbs sleep patterns.
Hi all,
I’ve pitched my tent in Delaware for the next 60 days and I’ve got access to highspeed. Who-hoo!
I got an e-mail about this from the EDL, stating very matter of factly, “and they seriously wonder why the EDL was formed?”
This is absolutely ridiculous. And the leftist politicos and their strong armed wing nut constabulary wonder why the EDL has had to come into existence. Arresting peaceful taxpaying business owners while riotous public disorderly Muslims are allowed to shout hate at public servants and returning military personnel without reproof boggles the mind.
Maybe this will once and for all bring the ridiculous law enshrining the “right not to be offended” to the death it deserves. This is definitely a battle free speech cannot loose. If this couple are found guilty, there will be some pretty pissed off Englishmen.
Billy,
That is such a stellar idea, I wish I had thought of it! The only drawback I can see is that the Morality Police might be able to get my credit card number and name, and bust me for it!
Great idea, though!
Muslims had better think it through, before they start demanding that non-Muslims not eat during Ramadan. If they do, and they win, whom are they going to feel superior to, with their Let's-Skip-Lunch week?
Ooops! Let's-Skip-Lunch month I mean.
Home Office staff were officially warned not to eat in front of their fasting Muslim colleagues during Ramadan - in case it made them feel hungry."
But what about the case where complying with this request "makes non-Muslims feel hungry"? Don't non-Muslims have a perfect right to eat, at their desks, or in the lunchroom, or anywhere else they feel like eating? What if there is nowhere they can conveniently eat without Muslims happening to catch sight of it?
It would have been one thing if the Muslim Public Affairs Council had opposed such a measure, declaring it unduly solicitous and unnecessary. That would have been welcome. That would have been right. But instead, the Muslim Public Affairs Committee, conducting its self-declared "Jihad against Islamophobia," attacks the measure -- so clearly one based on fear of offending Muslmis -- as deliberately intended to damage Islam and Muslims, or as MPAC so amazingly puts it, "It is designed to create more hatred in the hearts of non-Muslims."
The constant and endless disruption of our lives, in ways little and big, by the large-scale presence of Muslims in our lands, people who are intent on undoing everything about us, about our social arrangements and undersandings, our art, our science, our legal and political instiutions, our easygoing ways, our sense of humor and its freewheeling expression, our everything -- for the stultifying unfreedom and unhappiness and violence and aggression and cruelty and stunting of mental and moral growth that is Islam -- well, that's not something sensible people, that is people who are capable of coming at long last to their senses, should be expected for one minute to tolerate. And we won't.
Since it contains pork, I am sure that Muslims would not mind sensitive Brits digging into some "bangers and mash" for lunch. They shouldn't get hungry smelling something that is Haram.
Pepperoni and extra sausage?
Coming up next from the Ummah Kaliphate - all British Infidels - Anglicans, Orthodox, Catholics, Hindus, Rastafarians, Jains, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Sikhs, Atheists, Agnostics - must fast during Ramadan.
Hey this is a great idea. Do we also get to have 4 wives, and ban women from driving? The latter is my favorite. No more of those annoying women drivers on the road. Come to think of it, stoning adulterers and/or homosexuals would be lots of fun too.
Y'all are being far too closed-minded. Think of the advantages. The words of Blue Oyster Cult become more and more prophetic (if that choice of words doesn't get me charged with blasphemy): People, don't fear the Reaper.
Brings back memories of my first Islamic experience.
I was having a big mac and chips at the office in Indonesia and looked up and everybody looked really angry.
It was about 15 years ago and I was new in an Islamic country and didn't know what Ramadan was.
This and the following 10 years in Islamic countries changed me from being as ignorant and PC as the average left wing nut to an advocate of affirmative action to resist the take over of Islam.
In a few years time, like it or not, Islam will take control in the UK and they will not be able to eat in public during Ramadan.
I can't fault the comments about the Islamisation of the UK.It started by stealth and now with the co-operation of the excuse for a government in this country, they're not even bothering to hide it any more.
Hugh - you're absolutely right, but unless people like us actually make a stand against this it will continue. Thanks to the liberal left multiculturalist tendencies of the so-called movers and shakers - our Police are hamstrung and resentment is rising among ordinary Brits who feel like second class citizens in their own country. To add insult to injury - the press and the Jewish powers that be don't hesitate to smear British non-Jewish organisations who want the Islamisation of Britain stopped as "right wing extremists"!
To my mind, as a Jew - what is more worrying is that the knee jerkers in the Jewish community in the UK were the ones who are helping open the doors to what the Muslims are doing - by promoting the EUMC Working Definition on Anti-Semitism, which, if it becomes law, will effectively silence even justifiable criticism of Judaism and innocent questions or opinions. The way this document is written would mean it could be widened to include all sorts of things - if I as a Jew had my washing stolen off my line and I thought it was anti-Semitic, it would be recorded as such. To make it worse - this dangerous piece of would be legislation is supported by American organisations, and what American Jews have to do with what goes in in my country I don't know, and they have no right to push this law which will alienate the British people from the Jewish community. I wouldn't be surprised if because of it they considered us just as bad as Muslims.
None of the comments on the article at the Daily Mail mention what is happening in Morocco, or other muslim majority countries.
The commentors feel this will NEVER happen. They don't realize it IS happening already in other countries. Coming soon to them also.
"Home Office staff were officially warned not to eat in front of their fasting Muslim colleagues during Ramadan - in case it made them feel hungry."
Warned? WARNED? It chills me to the bone.
What ever happened to "it is suggested" or "it is recommended" or even "advised"?
gravenimage is right - the headline should read, "Home Office staff were officially warned not to eat in front of their fasting Muslim colleagues during Ramadan - in case it made them feel ANGRY."
Hence the warning.
Home Office staff were officially warned not to eat in front of their fasting Muslim colleagues during Ramadan - in case it made them feel hungry.
So you are supposed to skip your lunch at work because of this? perhaps they should just call of work altogether.
I think the cause of their hunger might be the fast itself
and not other people eating. Ya Think?
"Pizza delivery to the local mosque"
What would happen to the poor pizza delivery fellow though?
I don't give a damn about muslim sensitivities. If i feel like it i will eat during ramadan even if there are muslims working in the same place as i do. If they are getting hungry seeing me eat than they are free to leave the room
If we truly were the evil people that Muslims think we are......... we would build a smoker up wind from the mosque and start doin' some barbeque. Smoked ribs, sausage, pork shoulder, pork butt...............M"mmm. After about 12-14 hours, the entire mosque would be apostates.
I don't know what is worse, Muslim whiners wearing their fasting on their sleeves or the ridiculous British "leaders" who are afraid of rampaging hungry Muslims. Give me a break!
I don't know what is worse, Muslim whiners wearing their fasting on their sleeves or the ridiculous British "leaders" who are afraid of rampaging hungry Muslims. Give me a break!
If a muslim artic research scientist got stranded on the North Pole and the 24-hour daylight period coincided with Ramadan, would they be obligated to starve themselves to death? Just asking.
Heck, If one person starves him or her self then we must all starve ourselves. If one person jumps off a tall building we must all follow.
At Ramadan I like to eat a big BLT sandwich in front of Muslims. :)