There was a noticeable shift toward minority castings last season, with more parts opening up to ethnic actors, a casting term used for non-Caucasian thesps. It was a concerted effort, with more than one instance where a family member role was rewritten as adopted to make them ethnic. Then, following the success of freshman series How To Get Away With Murder, Black-ish, Fresh Off The Boat, Jane the Virgin and especially Empire, which launched to huge ratings at the kickoff of pilot casting season, ethnic castings exploded this season.
The change is welcomed by talent agents who no longer have to call casting directors and ask them if they would possibly consider an ethnic actor for a part, knowing they would most likely be rejected. “I feel that the tide has turned,” one agent said. “I can pitch any actor for any role, and I think that’s good.”
Because of the sudden flood of roles for ethnic actors after years of suppressed opportunities for them, the talent pool of experienced minority performers — especially in the younger range — is pretty limited. That has led to a feeding frenzy, with a number of straight offers locking in ethnic talent before they could be snatched by another pilot.
This is not to say that there weren’t other hot commodities this pilot season; star names were in demand as usual, as were hot young guys and girls and occasional foreigners with that “sparkle.” But the big trend this pilot casting season was the huge spike in the number and prominence of roles that went to minority actors.
Some of it has been organic. Last year, the leads in Extant and How To Get Away With Murder, originally not written as black, became ethnic once stars of the caliber of Halle Berry and Viola Davis became interested. Such was the case with Jennifer Lopez and Eva Longoria, who both commanded on-air episodic orders from NBC when they committed to star in drama Shades Of Blue and comedy Telenovela, respectively, as well as Paula Patton, who lifted the cast-contingency off the ABC drama pilot Runner. (ABC and 20th TV cast Patten, who is black, knowing already that the male lead had been conceived as Hispanic. The role went to Adam Rodriguez.) That also was the case with meaty supporting roles on Fox’s Gotham last year, which went for Jada Pinkett Smith, and NBC drama pilot Endgame this time, landing Wesley Snipes.
Also not earmarked as ethnic was the lead in NBC pilot Strange Call, a remake of an Australian series, which went to Community‘s Danny Pudi. CBS tried for a year to cast its comedy pilot Taxi-22, a remake of a French-Canadian series, until John Leguizamo signed on. And testing alongside actresses of different ethnicities, Natalie Martinez landed the lead in the NBC martial arts drama pilot Warrior.
But there were more broadcast drama pilots than ever whose leads had been designated as black this year. That includes Fox medical drama Rosewood, toplined by Morris Chestnut, and CBS civil rights crime drama For Justice, starring Anika Noni Rose. Uncle Buck was rebooted by ABC specifically as a black family sitcom, with Mike Epps in the title role originated by John Candy. NBC opted to make the lead couple in its drama about diverse couples Love Is A Four Letter Word black in picking up the pilot. (It had been originally conceived as Caucasian.) After a post-table read recasting of the female role, the two leads went to Cynthia McWilliams and Rockmond Dunbar.
There also have been a number of drama co-leads on which the networks chose to go ethnic this year, including Supergirl’s male lead, cast with Mehcad Brooks; one of the four female leads in ABC drama Broad Squad (Rutina Wesley); and the female lead in Minority Report (Meagan Good).
ABC, which has been in the forefront of the current wave of ethnic programming with freshmen How To Get Away With Murder, Black-ish, Cristela and Fresh Off The Boat, is leading the pack again with two black family comedies: Uncle Buck and Delores & Jermaine, starring comedian Jermaine Fowler and Whoopi Goldberg. The latter was based on the real-life experiences of comedian Fowler, as is ABC’s medical comedy Dr. Ken starring Ken Jeong. Additionally, NBC has Latino family magical drama The Curse Of The Fuentes Women with Hispanic lead cast, and CBS has the Rush Hour remake with black (Justin Hires) and Asian (Jon Foo) leads.
Uncle Buck and Love Is A Four Letter Word are among several projects where the original white protagonists have been changed to black this season. ABC’s medical drama pilot The Advocate was based on the story of former CAA agent Byrdie Lifson-Pompan and Dr. Valerie Ulene, who launched a healthcare consulting company. While the real-life inspiration for the two central character are both Caucasian, the show cast them with one white actress, Kim Raver, and one black, Joy Bryant.
As the photo of the 1972 graduation of the first 12-women class of the Boston Police Academy indicates, they appear to be all white, as were the members of the original Broad Squad, Rachel Keefe and Patricia Murphy, Boston’s first all-female patrol team. That is no surprise as non-Hispanic Whites constituted 80% of Boston’s population in 1970 versus 16% blacks. While set in the 1970s, ABC’s drama pilot Broad Squad, inspired by the real-life events, has a lead cast more consistent with Boston’s current racial makeup of 45% white non-Hispanic and 27% black as one of its four female leads was written and cast as African-American, Wesley.
A lot of what is happening right now is long overdue. The TV and film superhero ranks have been overly white for too long, workplace shows should be diverse to reflect workplace in real America, and ethnic actors should get a chance to play more than the proverbial best friend or boss.
But, as is the case with any sea change, some suggest that the pendulum might have swung a bit too far in the opposite direction. Instead of opening the field for actors of any race to compete for any role in a color-blind manner, there has been a significant number of parts designated as ethnic this year, making them off-limits for Caucasian actors, some agents signal. Many pilot characters this year were listed as open to all ethnicities, but when reps would call to inquire about an actor submission, they frequently have been told that only non-Caucasian actors would be considered. “Basically 50% of the roles in a pilot have to be ethnic, and the mandate goes all the way down to guest parts,” one talent representative said.
In one instance, after a number of actors of different ethnicities tested for two roles in a pilot this year, two Caucasian actors ended up being the top choices for the two remaining regular parts. However, because of a mandate from the studio and network, one of the roles had to diverse, so the pilot could only cast one of the top choices and pass on the other to fulfill the ethnic quota. “They need to say the best man or woman wins,” one rep suggested.
Replacing one set of rigid rules with another by imposing a quota of ethnic talent on each show might not be the answer, some industry insiders say. Empire, Black-ish, Jane the Virgin and Fresh Off The Boat have been breakouts because they represent worlds and points of view that were not on TV — a soapy hip-hop dynasty, an upper-class black family struggling with racial identity, a young Latina juggling her dreams and her heritage and an immigrant Asian family trying to fit in.
Television has been successful with shows that had both all-white (Friends, Seinfeld) and all-black (The Cosby Show) casts on the strength of their premise, execution and talent performances and chemistry. It is for the same reason that Scandal, HTGAWM and Empire have done so well with Kerry Washington, Davis and Taraji P. Henson as the respective leads.
Trying to duplicate those series’ success by mirroring the ethnicity of their leads is a dubious proposition — if that was the key, 2010’s Undercovers, a slick drama with two appealing black leads, Boris Kodjoe and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, should’ve been a hit.
While they are among the most voracious and loyal TV viewers, African-Americans still represent only 13% of the U.S. population. They were grossly underserved, but now, with shows as Empire, Black-ish, Scandal and HTGAWM on broadcast, Tyler Perry’s fare on OWN and Mara Brock Akil’s series on BET, they have scripted choices, so the growth in that fraction of the TV audience might have reached its peak.
As the broadcast networks are looking to add a number of new series targeting black viewers in the fall, we will see if that viewership can further expand (Empire and Black-ish have managed to successfully to co-exist in the same time slot this midseason). Since broadcast TV is a historically reactive business, that will determine whether the trend of ethnic casting will come back with a vengeance next season.
Note: The original headline on the story has been changed as it did not correctly reflect the context of the article.
“Too much of a good thing” should not be included in your title. Are you kidding me with your argument? A handful of shows starring blacks, ONE starring an Asian family and you’re saying it’s too much of a good thing?
Typical whtie person thinking. “Oh no, I might have to settle for 85% of all TV representation instead of 87! REVERSE RACISM! WHITE GENOCIDE!” These are the same people who can look at a crowd where only 1/3rd of the people in it are women and go “yep, that’s equal, 50/50 right there.”
OK, wrong as the thought may be, it’s just as wrong for you to call this typical of white people, and describe us all as sexist, too. This isn’t typical white person thinking. This is typical racism.
Sadly, it is typical in the industry. An industry typical risk averse. With a look track record of making these sorts of decisions in this case typical can be used with laser like accuracy.
Even this writer is “nervous” about the status-quo being disturbed temporarily. Is that the real concern? Or are is there some tension around the loss of white privileged in the hollywoodland?
Either way it is a very telling article.
I’ll go with that, Mike.
Stop being so fragile, white man. The harsh reality is you as a people really do behave that way to the rest of us, without even realizing it. Then you get all huffy and defensive when somebody points it out. Get over it and work on yourselves.
Dancing, singing and reality shows are taking over the broadcast networks. This is what you get because of the bad programs being made in Hollywood. The employment there is down 12% and all we see are Blacks, Homosexuals and feminists on sitcom and drama shows. When will Hollywood money men see this is not what people want?
How offended would you be, Mr. Leeds, if I had posted the following?
Stop being so fragile, black man. The harsh reality is you as a people really do behave that way to the rest of us, without even realizing it. Then you get all huffy and defensive when somebody points it out. Get over it and work on yourselves.
Why not simply address others as “you people”, as in “What is wrong with you people”? That wraps biases up nicely.
True, Using the wording “typical of white people” is racist in itself (I am not white). Fearing loss of representation should be categorized under “Upper middle class with limited social standing”. This class of people being only represented due to their ability to conform to the majority group, thus they have no real control and must continue to follow trend. If the majority group loses its majority standing then they lose their power. It happens in almost all majority groups, not just North America.
There isn’t such a thing called “reverse racism”. Is just racism no matter the race is discriminating.
Exactly.
Hmm I disagree. Minorities cant be racist as they have nothing to gain since they are MINORITY. I think you mean prejudice.
It’s racist to favor one race over another,minority or majority.
Or are you saying the white MINORITY government of apartheid South Africa wasn’t racist?
Ha! That’s rich. You’re delusuo
Minorities can’t be racist because racism is a system and minorities rarely don’t have the power to implement said system on other people.
No, racism is not a system, it’s a state of mind. Like someone said, if you favor your race over another, you are a racist. It doesn’t matter how much power you have! Lol. Oh if I hate blacks and I’m rich and own my own business and don’t hire blacks I’m racist but if I hate blacks and I’m poor I’m not racist because I have no power to do anything about it. What? You don’t even understand this, do you?
Anyone can be racist. Racism is different from systematic racism and the idiotic definition you brain dead fools use was created by a white woman. And it’s not even being used the correct way.
Racism is a system and that is usually institutionalized as demonstrated by slavery and Jim Crow. These were legal racist systems as was the apartheid system in South Africa. Prejudice is a state of mind.
@Arkle
I’ve lost count of how many comments on this thread have used the term “white people”. Given the context, and the obvious inflection in their wording, using THAT term is no different than saying the ‘N Word’ to someone. It’s really sad that we sit here, in 2015, a nation with a black president, a black attorney general, a very diverse supreme court — yet STILL so many Americans of African decent are angry and pointing fingers at “white people” for their failures in life. We need to be proactive, educate ourselves, and keep pushing — just as accomplished “white people” always have. I’m an entertainment attorney and my clients come in every flavor. I identify as a black woman, however, changing the stereotype has not been easy. Not because “white people” expect me to fit into a specific box, but because other blacks do. Not all black Americans are ghetto, and not every “white person” is a fan of Duck Dynasty. Lets stop this white vs black foolishness.
Oh, shut the fuck up.
Haha my thoughts exactly
You’re the best – no snark. You’re the best!
What’s wrong with you? That was one of the better comments on this thread. YOU should be doing exactly what you so rudely commanded her to do.
What else can you say but what Anonymous just said. Black actors have to live in the desolation that is the entire industry, world wide, and someone dares say “Let’s stop the white vs. black foolishness’?!! Can anyone else see the flaw in logic here, the insanity? Chris Rock is wrong, WHITE people (there I said it) have not gotten less crazy. The madness and folly continue unabated.
I am a black woman. This article is utterly ridiculous. HOWEVER, I agree with you. We need to stop with the “white people” this and that. There are many white people who would stand beside is in battle. Some would stand infront of us.
Red flags come up when I hear people talk about black people pointing fingers at white people and blaming them failures. We cannot ignore the HISTORY of this country that got us to where we are. That is like going to the doctor and ignoring years of poor lifestyle, and saying it has nothing to do with the fact that you have heart disease. Illogical. The problem is that people cannot acknowledge that this system was built on racism and that it is still having an impact on how black people advance through society. If you go to a poor school K-12 you are not going to be prepared for applying to and entering college. If you are trying to move out of a bad neighborhood, predatory loans and housing discrimination limit your choices and chance to do that. These are real issues that black people face trying to live in a country with a system created by racist white people. I am sorry, that is just a fact.
you betta work that comment, gurl!
@krazilialove, the issues you are referring to are not race issues, they are class issues. The fact that you actually think it’s only black people who grow up in poor neighborhoods and get poor educations is very ignorant. True, there are large amounts of poor neighborhoods that are predominantly black, but saying racism in the reason is foolish. I am sorry you, but that is the actual fact.
So if not white people, should it be caucasian people? What would you call black people?
@Krazilialove
We can say there are systemic issues relating from white racists….
but you can’t deny that there need to be a balance between hate and facts.
I 100% agree with you about the vicious cycle that plagues some black men and women. I’d add that it is a class and race issue. A class because if your parents are poor, you are raised in a poor area with a poor neighborhood you have less chances of getting out of that.
A race issues because the chances are worse if you are not white.
However….that doesn’t mean what Beth said is worth of being told to STFU.
Black and white SHOULD stand together when it comes to issues relating to class, education, etc.
There are many whites that love to point the finger at blacks to blame for something…and vice versa.
@Lucifer no the issues she was talking about such as discrimination for housing, loans and education was/is very much a *black* problem not a class problem and has been a black problem for decades. Middle class blacks face that same discrimination. You should do more research on this.
@ Lucifer – Even if it is a class issue, race still enters the picture for black people. If a black person rises up out of poverty they often still have to deal with race related obstacles because of this country’s troubling history of race relations. Even the president, who is clearly one of the best and the brightest among us regardless of race, still has to deal with issues that a white president would never even have to think about. Has congress ever gone behind a president’s back and invited a foreign leader to speak as they did with Netanyahu? Has congress ever written a letter denouncing a president’s negotiation as they did recently with their letter to Iran? When Obama was first elected, several white members of the military refused to report to duty because they could not accept him as their Commander in Chief. This attitude from some towards him is a direct result of the institutionalized racism on which this country was founded. Now I’ve pointed out things that the president has to deal so can you imagine what other black men and women in lesser positions have to deal with in this country? Trust me, overcoming challenges in this country often have nothing to do with class when it comes to black people.
This whole article is white vs. black foolishness.
Wow. Who hurt you?
This is the whitest thing I’ve ever read
Lmao!! Yes, it is.
@Beth,
When you have to censor the N word, but can type out whitle people….there most certainly IS a difference.
Amen to that!
calling someone white is COMPLETELY different than dropping the N word. That word is used in disdain. Go back to school!!!!
@MsWrite, I thought “that word” was used as a term of endearment? Also, I’ve heard plenty of minorities use the term “white people” as an insult. It’s a very popular thing with younger people, especially on social media.
Exactly! The equivalent of “white people” is “black people”. The opposite of the n word is… yeah I’ve got nothing.
What should people call you? Clear? You call blacks black right? Being called white and being called the “n” word are not comparable…what the hell is wrong with you bunch of brats???
Oh Beth, what a sweet commentary through rose colored, glasses…you also have friends who are white!!!
“White people” is a slur like the N word is?
lol ok
I would address the rest of your post, but you are clueless.
Beth has a clue, she just hasn’t found it yet…
lol
Oh, Black girl named Beth (which is fine; my grandmother is an Elizabeth), you’ve bought into the “post-racial” jig, I see. You think that President Obama being in the White House somehow erases decades and decades of state-sanctioned, Jim Crow systemic injustices like housing inequality or disparate access to quality education (notice how I didn’t even touch slavery just so you can’t say “Oh, but slavery is over…” I peg you as the type.)?
Your comment totally (and purposely?) overlooks the very notion that White people’s very Whiteness has given them the means to “push” forward (in the form of access to quality housing and education, for example). I’m really really baffled by how ill-informed you are. You say you are an attorney, and what it says to me is that you did well on a standardized examination asking pointed and specific questions about codes and regulations in your specific state, but your knowledge of the U.S. at large and the history of race in this country is, unfortunately, sorely lacking.
But–go on ahead and continue to believe that White people don’t expect you to fit into a box. Ma’am, they do, perhaps even more than Black people do.
That was very well put. Maybe she has lived a secluded lifestyle… Just wait until it hits her square in the face, her eyes will be open then…
THANK YOU!
Lovely! You made the point I tried to make in my last point, but much more eloquently. Thank you. I agree 100%.
My thoughts and facts exactly. Thank You.
Thank you, clearly Beth doesn’t get it, even after reading your comment I’m sure.
Well said!!!
Saying “white people” is not at all like saying the “n word.” One of these things you spelled out and would say in public. Your assertion that these are the same is beyond ridiculous.
@ Beth
The situation is much more complicated than what you are saying. You are trying to simplify things. Please become more informed. The N-word is the last word many heard before being lynched/burned etc. Your argument has so many flaws I do not know where to begin. You seem to not understand institutional racism/red lining/racism in the education system etc (and a lot of other things). Your statements seem to be that of a typical racist. Are you an internet troll/thug/concern troll? What I have seen are people fighting for equality and fairness. (really, that is pointing the finger?) Let Me Stop. This conversation is too complicated for the internet and for a person that wants to summarize it the way you did.
A few parts go to people of color and there is an issue? Diversity is important.
SAYING “WHITE PEOPLE” IS NO DIFFERENT THAN SAYING THE N WORD? IS THAT A SERIOUS STATEMENT?
And Beth is an attorney. I’m afraid for her clients.
Yea that one’s a head scratcher.
Just because we have black people in figure head postions doesn’t mean our entire huge system is magically fixed. You’re actually a perfect example of why racism prevails. You have no perspective because you’re ignorant. Educate yourself. Learn new things. Travel! Youll find the truth eventually.
“White people” is not the same as the n word because you can say white people without abbreviation. You know, because it’s not offensive. Obama does not indicate a post racial society. In fact the reaction to his presidency has been extremely racist. Race is social construct. Biologically race is not real, but it has very serious implications on people’s lives in a racialized social system. especially in America.
Exactly. Not only that, but the fact that Obama is identified as a black man rather than of mixed race further indicates we are not in a post racial society. He’s constantly referred to as the first black president without any mention of the other ethnic groups that make up his background.
There was a comic from South Africa who had a bit about this in his standup show who was also of mixed race. In South Africa racism is much more obvious and people like this comic were pushed to the sidelines of society because he’s too black for white people but too white for black people.
His name is Trevor Noah and I would suggest checking out his act. He’s very funny and isn’t offensive with his racial humor.
are you stoned? Race is not a social construct, society is a racial construct.
Different races create different types of societies. Only a MORON would think that race isn’t biological; where do you suppose your skin color, skeletal structure, sickle cell anemia propensity, and on and on, come from? Magic? A fairy? Do black parents birth Asian kids? You can take a basic blood test and it SAYS RIGHT ON IT that there are different range metrics for black and other populations! Pretty damned good for a “social construct,” huh?
Race is simply a cluster of physical traits, ALL OF WHICH are coded by DNA.
@trav777 Actually you are wrong. There have been white parents that birthed a black baby and black parents that birthed a white baby and also black and white twins. Also race is a social construct. People’s genes slightly vary by location but there’s no defined races in science.
http://raceandgenomics.ssrc.org/Lewontin/
did you just compare the term “white people” to the ‘N’ word?
Holy… moly…
How does this video posting correlate with the article???? PASS
We were moving toward that ideal until Ms. Andreeva wrote this very racist article stating that there are too many ethnics on TV. When blacks work hard and get the results, suddenly we have too many “slots” on tv. Blacks on TV are raking in the viewers and the advertising dollars. That is success. For the past decade, tv has been almost unwatchably boring. I fell asleep trying to watch Madame Secretary. I thought it was a sleep inducing show. Finally, the networks caught on: Blacks, with good writing, bring in the ratings and dollars. Now white people are complaining that trying to cast so that shows are successful is just too much for whites to bear. So, why don’t you stop the “white vs black foolishness” and we will keep making excellent tv shows because obviously we know how.
“Blacks, with good writing, bring in the ratings and dollars.” A bit narrow-minded, no? PEOPLE with good writing, bring in the ratings and dollars. Black and white. Just as blacks and whites with crappy writing don’t. Unless you’re Chuck Lorre where it rakes in billions.
My take is I don’t care if its a white or black person on a show. If it is good I will watch it either way. Oh and by the way Madam Secretary is a good show. If the show is good it will bring in ratings and dollars. The color of your skin doesn’t matter. Madam Secretary is a good show and brings in ratings and dollars. to me the media and some of these commenters are adding fire to an issue that is starting to work itself out albeit slowly.
@Anthony Fremont
Shut Up! Stop acting like you don’t know what she is talking about. She didn’t imply that non-blacks writers are not good and cannot bring in ratings and dollars. She is simply and correctly pointing out that only recently have studio execs recognized good black writers.
For years, on American tvs there have been numerous shows with the lead character being white and while the minority is always in the background. Finally when minority groups have a chance to show their talent and take leading roles on tv, this ignorant author says it might shake the status quo.
Shows like Empir, Black-ish, fresh off the Boat are getting top ranks because their actors own the role they are playing. No caucasian woman will have been able to play the role of Cookie Lyon and embrace the crazy that is Cookie. Every actor has something special that they bring to the table and the fact that the author of this article is downplaying the talent of minorities is completely ridiculous and shameful.
Did you just equate “white people” to the N-word? Have you lost your mind? Your ancestors were beaten, burned and hung while that slur was chanted. I can’t even see your point because of that foolish thinking.
Today black on white crime in the US is astronomical compared to white on black or any other racial combination and the evidence is often gleefully posted to youtube if you need to get yourself up to date with this century. If there was such a thing as White Entertainment TV (WET) the screaming would be incessant. Personally I did not perceive this article as racist. I didn’t even catch much of an opinion but there were facts on how parts have been rewritten to include “minorities,” how more than “a handful” of shows are minority based . . .basically just an industry update that was surely appreciated by some. Even the title is more asking if the market will accept this new programming – advertisers need to know – is not any indicator of the authors personal bias – it’s business. It’s also timely as more and more people are no longer purchasing TV. So I guess the AL Sharpton definition of racism is the one we are using now – any time a person of one race talks about a person of another race – THAT RACIST! So even a business update article assumes mega proportions in the perception and commenter go on about a racist system with absolutely no clue that we have had decades of EEOC and plenty of the inherently racist white people who helped put teeth into that law on a case by case basis. And plenty of white people who did not get the job because there are not enough jobs for everyone and the legal requirements, referenced obliquely in this article don’t do much for the excluded unemployed who have to receive hate every day because somehow they are beneficiaries of privilege.
oh my goodness…the fact that we have a Black president does NOT mean we are post-racial. STOP IT.
Nothing towards white people is like saying the n word. One has history while the other doesn’t. This article n many like it just proves how selfish and terrible white people are. Not all but a good amount.
De-colonize your mind then, girl. Did you really compare a word deliberately made up by white supremacists and/or slave masters with the sole purpose of debasing a race of people, reducing them to less-than-humans to everyone (not just black vs. white) rightfully responding in outrage by calling a spade a spade?
Are you seriously equating “white person” with ni##er?That is absurd on its face. There is not enough derision with which to utter “white person” that would ever make it compare to the actual violence and marginalization associated with the n word.
As a black person disagreeing with another black person I should not have to say we are not a monolith.
“Given the context, and the obvious inflection in their wording, using THAT term is no different than saying the ‘N Word’ to someone”
Quite possibly the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Congrats!
You identify as a black woman, yet you see parallels between the term “white people” and the “N” Word? While I agree that it most certainly is offensive when used in certain contexts, it simply isn’t…and never will be…the same.
I agree with much of what you wrote, but bigotry does still exist. The best way to address the “foolishness” of black vs. white (or black vs. black), is to recognize it, talk about it, and change it.
Full disclosure: I am white, and disliked Duck Dynasty before the controversy (but then, it really was never meant for me).
I want to see shows that are as diverse as the world I actually inhabit. But I want to see them with actors that are qualified for the role…regardless of race, gender, orientation, etc.
You had me on your side with your comment until you added wanted to see actors that are qualified for the role. Would you explain what an unqualified actor is? I have never seen talk of qualifications when the conversations of white actors are discussed exclusively.
as a white person it’s nice and sweet to propound that we need to just drop all these tedious racial arguments and all be friends. White people are entitled to say it and can’t even grasp how entrenched racism is in this country. It’s nice to be nice to people and we should all strive to see everyone as human beings, but denial that the problem exists (i.e. institutional racism) and denial of unconscious bias (a whole other pernicious can of worms) isn’t an answer.
Oh my Word. did you really just say that using THAT term(White People) is no different than saying the N word? REALLY? I agreed with you initial point that the people using it before were just not right but to compare it to the N word, Come on. Now i don’t speak for black America but I do not believe the vast majority of Blacks in Hollywood are blaming “White People” This article is ignorant, horribly done and just plain wrong. That should be the focus not the few individuals who feel the need to trash “White people” and “Black people”.
How is saying white people the same as saying the N word. Most applications list White as a category are they wrong as well.
Now if I said “Cracka” or “Red neck hillbilly” that might be the equivalent of say “the N-word”. The thought pattern that you use just shows the lack of logic of the tipical white person. Comparing “the N-word” with “white people” is just wrong on so many levels. To be correct one would recognize that ” black people” would be the true comparison.
Actually, the term “cracker” refers to white slave masters who “cracked” the whip. So it’s really not a term meant to debase white people but to acknowledge their position of power (back when it was created).
If you read the whole comment, you would see that that was written by a black person, not a white person. There is no such thing as a “typical white person”, you are just racist.
If someone called me a “Cracker” in relation to a slave master…than yea, I’d see that as offensive and racist. No one is “acknowleding” power when they call someone a Cracka/Cracker.
Beth, you’re post is riddled with ignorance. “Accomplished” white people (and, no, it’s not the same as the N word) have the substantial, pervasive, entrenched, centuries old, advantage of an entire racist American system that has overwhelmingly and aggressively favored them, providing them limitless opportunities in EVERY aspect of American society. It did this through LEGAL discrimination until 1968 and has continued to do so through the monolithic dominance of every industry in the country that white people have AS A RESULT of that legal discrimination. Should Black people work together to establish more power and influence for ourselves, particularly in Hollywood? Yes, definitely. But it’s significantly harder when you’ve been restricted so severely in every walk of life in what you can do and only have a fraction of the social resources available to “accomplished” white people.
I identify as a white woman… and I really don’t know how to talk about “white people”, other than to call them “white people”. I don’t I agree with you that using the term “white people” with a certain inflection implies a racial slur. And when you claim that this is all “white vs black foolishness”… you are callously disregarding every other race on the planet.
Well, well said, Beth. It’s about EDUCATION and ACCEPTANCE. To the people writing, “Oh, a WHITE person must have said that…” Ask yourselves how you would feel if you saw a comment that read, “of course a black person said that…” Not ok in either regard.
The history of entertainment has historically been one-sided. We know this. It’s wrong and FINALLY starting to change. Colorblind shows like “Grey’s” have gone miles to change this. Because guess what: there are black doctors and some of those black doctor’s lead and run hospitals. KUDOS for giving the audience a show that depicts this and strives to be a well written, well acted, well produced show period.
Have networks historically gone with white actors over color in general? Yes. They have been far too guilty of that. But, giving Ray Romano a black brother would not have been real, as it didn’t mimic his real experience. Giving him a black wife if his real wife were indeed black WOULD make sense. Same for Blackish or Jane or whatever shows are being developed or cast. Cast real life according to the scenario. Medical, Law, Cop, fantasy, etc. franchises SHOULD be diverse. Family shows not based on someone’s real experience CAN be diverse.
Strive to mimic the real world and stop creating barriers as many of these posts do. We (black, white, Asian, Latin, gay, straight, transgender, Muslim, Christian, Jewish, etc., etc.) should stop the cycle of “us” vs. “them.” The discussion should always move forward as ignorance vs. Education.
My answer is this: Hire the best person. But, it’s our collective responsibility to be aware of potential unconscious bias. Jobs should go to actors who best represent the society that exists or most of us would like to believe is possible.
“My answer is this: Hire the best person. ”
I take it then that you object to the networks current policy of insisting on 50% minority casting for all their new shows.
Because you can’t have a mandate of “At least half the cast MUST be non-white” and also have a mandate of “Forget color. Black, white, yellow, I don’t care, it’s irrelevant. Just hire the best person.”
So if you can’t have both — and you can’t — which one are you in favor of?
@Beth please don’t tell me you think saying “white people” is the same as saying the n-word because you are sadly mistaken. Just because we have a black president does not mean this nation has fixed its racism and discrimination issues. You’re saying to educate ourselves and be proactive what the fuck do you think black people are doing right now and have been doing for the last 50 years? sitting around waiting for our white saviors to pull us out from under the poverty line? And I know you are not black you’re a jar of mayonnaise in disguise and if you are black you need to get a fucking grip and check yourself.
“Jar of mayonnaise”? Wow, let the racism fly…Oh wait, if you aren’t white its not racism…..Hypocrisy at its finest.
Yep.
Wow that wasn’t related to this comment or article at all. “pointing fingers at “white people” for their failures in life” Really who said that? LOL. Two minorities does not make our supreme court very diverse. Our federal government still mostly consists of white men. You wanted go on a rant about Black people. You added nothing to this conversation.
You sound foolish. Using the term ” white people” is nothing like using the N word.
You might be a black attorney, but you’re lost as a black person.
There’s no way an actual black person typed this. Nope.
There you go. White privilege always searching for moral equivalents to White skin privilege and White entitlement. No the term White people is not equivalent to the “N word”. The N word is a slur created to demean and dehumanize Black men and women. White people is a description. It is a term created by “Whites” to evoke privilege and supremacy that is why the definition has expanded to include more and more people in an attempt to hold onto it’s privilege. In the turn of this century loads of folks of European decent take for granted their White skin inclusion but less than 100 years ago they were not accorded such privilege. Jews and Irish and Italians were not given the benefit of White skin privilege. So let’s get this straight people of color are not blaming “White people” but White skin privilege and White entitlement are most certainly responsible for a lot of pain and misery fostered upon peoples of color in general and Black folk in particular.
Ok first of all the fact that you can say “white person” but not the “N word” clearly indicates that the two are nowhere near on the same level of offensive-ness.
That being said, this is a typical white person colorblind person response….as displayed by the irrelevant anecdotal and not statistically supported statement “Many Americans of African descent blame white people for the failures in their life.” Like, what data or studies support this? Oh rigjt, none. And having a Black president doesn’t mean shit, because look at all the bullshit racist stuff flying around before and after and while he’s been president. Chairs being hung from trees with his name on them, First Lady Michelle Obama being referred to as a monkey and a chimp. Racism is alive and embedded in every crevice and facet of this society and every economic level. What white people don’t understand is that yea there and the stereotypes about all racial an ethnic groups….but white people aren’t dying, being incarcerated and barred from employment and education opportunity as a result of those stereotypes. So please give it a rest
Saying “white people” is the same as using the n-word? Seriously?
Shut up!
“We need to be proactive, educate ourselves, and keep pushing — just as accomplished “white people” always have. ”
White people always have and black people have done what? Your whole comment reeks of either an extreme need of white acceptance or trolling. To insinuate that you’re some special black person and that other black people are not proactive, educated, and aren’t persistent is problematic. What black people are you around that you would even think “lazy and unmotivated” is typical for black people?
You identify yourself as a “black woman”? GTFOH.
The fact that you can type out white people but not the n word proves how dumb this entire comment is. Also not all black people are “of african descent”. It’s not white vs. black foolishness, it’s black people and other POC being systematically discriminated against and finally getting some representation (not anywhere near the majority of shows, by the way, but SOME) and people start freaking out that there aren’t “enough” roles for white actors anymore. No one’s pointing fingers at white guy Joe or white girl Jane over there for “their failures”. If you watch/read the news and don’t think we have a problem with racism in this country, you are blind.
Saying white people is the same as the n word? That’s as big of a joke as this article.
Referring to white people as “white people” is NOTHING approaching the “n word.” You may have had a valid point, but you ruined it by making such an ignorant statement.
I am sorry but I call BS on this post. I don’t normally do this but to “identify” as a black women and then to actually feel the NEED to type the sentence “Not all black Americans are ghetto” leads me to believe that you are NOT in fact a black woman as you anonymously insist but are instead an internet troll. The black diaspora is filled with many many different types of black people and there are MANY black female entertainment lawyers in Los Angeles, may of whom I know. But I do not believe you. And I’m willing to bet, no other black people do either. lol If you have to LIE about being black to justify your comments, then you’re not just a liar, you’re an idiot too.
From a woman who identifies as black but actually is really black and was born black and has lived as a black American her entire life. :) xoxo
this is a nonsense argument with a heavy dose of fundamental attributional error. no saying “white people” is NOT the same thing as saying the n word, its the same thing as saying “black people”. the fact that the president is black means nothing but that hes an incredible strong and hardworking person that h=overcame more than the other had to. exceptionalism is not an example of equality. finally, although you are correct that some people to “blame” most others just simply want recognition, for the “white people” like me to recognize the 300 years after slavery of convict leases, vagrancy laws, jim crow, housing, educational and social discrimination and mass incarceration. theres a disparate impact on african american communities and by ignoring it and playing the blame game, we only exacerbate the problem.
@beth stop it beth. n*gg*r is a slur. ‘white people’ is not.
Although I may agree with stopping the white vs black argument, I cannot agree with the fact that the term “White people” is the same as the “N” word. That is absurd. As far as I can remember, white people were not lynched while being called white. Black people were lynched while being called the “N” word. There is so much that goes into that word that far outweighs your claim that it equates to “White people”. I understand your intentions and this might be your opinion, but just think about how what you’ve said affects others.
you are a lunatic
Using the term “white people” isn’t the same as using the N-word you ignoramus. White and/or black is simply used as a description of someone. Stop worrying Ms. “I identify as a black woman”, your white friends will still invite you to their barbecue’s.
> ” I’ve lost count of how many
comments on this thread have used
the term “white people”. Given the
context, and the obvious inflection
in their wording, using THAT term
is no different than saying the ‘N
Word’ to someone. ”
The term “white people” isn’t as discriminatory or offensive as saying the “‘N’ word” because the former group were never slaves/beaten/killed while being called such a hateful word. The “‘N’ word” carries historical malevolence whereas “white people” merely describes a color (or lack thereof) of people.
> ” yet STILL so
many Americans of African decent
are angry and pointing fingers at
‘white people’ for their failures in
life.”
Yeah, how dare African Americans like Eric Gardner, Mike Brown, and Tamar rice blame white people for their “failure” to live. (That is sarcasm.) Racism is still sadly alive as perpetuated in this Deadline article, your comment, and what’s happening in society.
In your comment about how you’re successful despite your race, you completely discredited your privilege (be it your network/connections; upbringing (were your parents educated? did they encourage you to pursue postsecondary education?); or even luck/being at the right place at the right time).
Please take these factors into account before spewing such ignorant, privileged dribble.
Wait wait wait wait. You honestly think the phrase “white people” is a racial epithet as powerful as the n-word? Good lord.
Really??
Aside from the inane and abjectly invalid attempt at equivalency of the “N Word” to “white people”, this comment, I suspect, must be a pathetic attempt at humor.
Beth, the “entertainment attorney”, must be extremely talented, given her capacity to discern “obvious inflection” from the “wording” of those writing the term “white people”. I’m sure that skill comes in handy in examining legal entertainment documents. Clearly, her clients are lucky to have her.
There is no point in addressing the rest of Beth’s comments. They have to be part of her “joke”. Nobody (white, black or otherwise) could possibly be this clueless.
Im sorry , saying” white people” is thw same as saying the “N word” really ? How so? Should the word Caucasian be used instead? Black people are called black people or african American , no? Im confused since when did “white people” become a slur?
Beth, “white people” is not a racial slur. It has not been used for hundreds of years to demean and oppress people solely based on their skin color. It is most certainly NOT a common ethnic slur with an extensive history of slavery. Do NOT compare the two. You may not like it, it may not be fair to you, but this is not a contest, and if it were, you’d lose. Check your privilege.
Saying “white people” is now the same as saying the N word?
The jokes. They are endless.
Troll alert!
The article is literally about WHITE PEOPLE pointing the finger at people of color for their failures, and you attempt to flip it. You are not fooling anyone about your proclamation of being black. No black person would imply that the phrase white people is tantamount to the n-word. Y’all are so obsessed that you even imitate us online.
Huh? We’re white people lynched right after someone yelled “white people”? We’re white people whipped while he called “white people”?
White people are clueless… Did you feel like I called you the “N-word” there?
Sure. Just as soon as white people stop playing the
master race card. Why is this woman counting our nappy heads and telling us to be color blind.
I get really sick of people stating the obvious–that the President is Black–when ever the topic of race comes up. We, the Black people, know this. We also know that the last racist didn’t die the day after he was elected. Now YOU know. *side-eye*
Please shut the fuck up. If you think calling a white person a white person is the same as calling a black person the n word you need to seek serious help immediately.
“Lets stop this white vs black foolishness.”
You should whine to the person that wrote this article.
I agree with what you’ve stated. I am black and Mexican American, and there are a lot of people with that owe me mentality. I don’t believe is acting ghetto, and I believe in proper English. I tell my 2 sons that they have to work hard for what they do in this life and not to expect it to be handed to you. If you work for it, it is truly an accomplishment. They don’t talk in a way that makes them sound thuggish, or walk with their pants hanging off their butt, but the color of their skin is still looked at before there character. That needs to change! Everyone should be represented regardless of their race when watching a show. Yes there are those sitcoms that portrait them a bad light, but we all have our bad seeds. This should not take away from the good roles models.
then how do we get to the good role models? well in some areas yeah but not all
lol yes!!!
Exactly. And they are the first to scream that Hollywood is NOT racist!! Smdh.
Typical white person thinking. Just like typical black person thinking.
Oh I see, “Liberal Hollywood” used sarcastically. Like me using Racist Republican. Now I get it.
You are right Arkle it is typical of them to do this. They just keep showing us what has always been there. This article is ridiculous have to be trying to make a (not funny joke).
Did this woman see the OSCARS there was literally probably only two African Americans and a hand full of Hispanics.
It is so stupid that I cannot even get mad that is how absurd this article is.
Just comes to show you we African, Hispanic, and Asian groups are successful they rear their ugly heads.
Studies actually show that people have trouble with statistics and representation. Shown a room with 50/50 M-F dispersion, a majority of participants said that the room had more women, and it wasn’t until the ratio was 65:35 M-F that participants felt that the room was comprised of half women and half men.
I’m so excited to see diverse casting, and I think there should be way more.
Your comment is just as dumb and offensive as the article.
The reporter is correct to warn against an arbitrary quota system and focusing on actor’s skin color rather than a pilot’s writing
The industry didn’t break when “minorities” were underrepresented, it won’t break now (your argument can’t possibly be that there aren’t enough white people with good roles on television). Just relax.
………..seriously?
Please stop with this inane and completely unsubstantiated notion of casting quotas. Please please please show me where there is such a thing. If it exists it is either not working or set a disgustingly low level.
“Basically 50% of the roles in a pilot have to be ethnic, and the mandate goes all the way down to guest parts,”
Guess you didn’t feel like reading and just flocked here when you saw the headline.
Well, Caucasians have been chosen for acting roles because of their skin color for a LONG time. Funny how there’s no article about that.
If we were in a country where the blacks were the majority by 80% they you an article about Caucasians being chosen for their skin color.
We are not even living in a country where the whites are anywhere near eighty percent, so what is the purpose of this article and your comment?
Latinos are 18% of the US population and will be about 30% within a decade and a half, yet we’re about 3% of all roles on TV and movies, including supporting roles.
IOW: you’ve got some fuzzy math going on there. Caucasians are barely the majority NOW, and will be a minority by the time your children are grown. Why should they continue to be the dominant representation in the media?
As I said to Miss Beth up there, take a seat. Please. Or use stage left because no.
Right, American. White people always say that when they see someone non-white getting an opportunity. You were fine with the “arbitrary quota system” of EVERYTHING for white people and a few crumbs for anyone who isn’t white.
“White people always”? This may be in vain, but can’t you see you’re being racist?
Your pro-merit, anti-quota argument would work perfectly in an ideal world, but we do not live in an ideal world. The world we live in still abides, heavily, by white supremacy principles.
Therefore your argument is hypocritical. Most people KNOW that white actors are largely cast because they are, gasp WHITE. As whites, they are deemed more commercial, sellable, relatable, normal, etc.
There’s been an arbitrary quota system in place for whites since the first television broadcast. Sorry you’re bummed about seeing, what, five shows on network TV with a minority-led cast.
Any little crack in their privileged dam, and it’s the end of the world as we know it. Just like they’re losing their minds and turning into anarchist after less than 8 years of having a Black President… Relax white folks, ain’t nothing changed .. You still rule your world!
“their”? There are teams now? Funny, I thought the idea was to see us all as people. None different than the other.
Quota system? When’s the last time you saw a TV network executive green light a show because of an “arbitrary quota system.” Shows get air time if people think they will be popular with viewers and, more importantly, profitable. If a writer wants to tell the story of an Asian family moving to Florida or a black family struggling with questions about its identify, it just plain makes sense to cast Asian and black actors. And these shows aren’t making money ONLY on the merits of their inclusiveness. They’re well-written, well-executed and all around funny shows. Viewers have an appetite for what they bring to the table and it’s pitiful to see this author scream bloody murder over “too much of a good thing” as if it’s OK for minority actors to get a little work, but not too much.
Even if networks decided to give these shows a chance purely because they wanted to deflect criticism about not providing work for a more diverse group of actors, the shows in question earned their audiences.
this article is somewhat of a backhanded compliment. The shows featuring minorities and the proposed shows still make up a small percentage of the total shows on TV. In fact
the handful of shows mentioned, repeatedly
Do not reflect the percentage that minorties
Make up of our population. So, how can
Casting more minorties be “too much too
soon?”
Are you serious here? This has to be a joke. Since the inception of moving pictures, roles for minorities have been few and far between, stereotypical and/or throwaway roles. Finally, we are seeing more stories about and including people of color (POC) and I’m sickened that ANY white person would have the nerve to complain about it. I’m a middle-aged white person, and I welcome this change with gratitude. Your article reeks of privilege and the continued attitude that POC are novelties, born for no other reason than to support and entertain the majority – which, btw, we barely are. GET. OVER. YOURSELF. No such thing as colorblind, dearie – race, at this point in our history, still plays an enormous cultural role in our storytelling, because it plays an enormous role in the lived experiences of us all.
God given a 100 year old biased industry actually joins the 21st century and becomes equal opportunity towards all actors and not just white ones.
Really! ^ Actually, I would LOVE to see The Great White Narrative take a back seat permanently.
Quotas for quotas sake does a disservice to all. Keep affirmative action out if art.
Too late. Affirmative Action in art started with the inception of Hollywood and this country as a matter of fact. And you know what, narratives by and about black people are beautiful, legitimate forms of story telling and fill all the criteria for Western art. The alienated outsider is taken from his home and must forge his way against villainous adversaries who create insurmountable odds. Stories of the “other” are not affirmative action- just exciting, dynamic and fresh narrative.
The solution is to designate the roles as ethnic in the scripts themselves. “Originated ethnically” is much more politically correct and ethically appropriate than “became ethnic once casting got a hold of it”. That way, actors and agents know what to expect in regards to volume of work for their varied clientele. Yes, many non-descript, non-ethnic specific roles were made exclusive to ethnic actors this year. This, in turn, excluded caucasian actors from much of the process. Oh, how we long for the days that talent rises above the racial madness.
Still, many lead roles go to caucasian actors and supporting roles to ethnic actors, leaving unconventional looking caucasian character actors in the dust. This is the new broadcast network gimmick, a way of fighting back after many years Cable and now streaming dominance. So all your free channels, your CBS, NBC, ABC, & FOX are about to become alot more colorful. And in the end, with so many networks, big and small, and more original scripted television being produced than ever before, it might just be a damn great thing.
” Oh, how we long for the days that talent rises above the racial madness.”
When did this exist? Casting agencies won’t even send non white actors out for parts unless the production company specifically asks them to. The only exception is when they are casting criminals. Sadly, production companies don’t even make a stink about this.
Jessie L. Martin was selected to play the love interest of Ally McBeal because no race was specified and the best actor to try out got the role.
Seriously?? That’s your one example. What else ya got?? If you can name more than five I’d be really impressed. The fact that they can be counted at all only further proves the point of it’s rarity
Wow
Oh god. When will white people ever learn?
when will you learn? Probably never.
Seems like you’re the ignorant one if you don’t understand why this article is completely racist and offensive.
Racism is just as ugly on you as it is on white people.
Racist. And if you don’t think so, you don’t get it. What’s funny is that comments like this prove we are all the same. We are each of us capable of racism, of bias, of hate.
Oh no! Parts are going to non-white actors after 60 years of TV!
I don’t care about the race of the actor or actress. Just cast the best actor or actress for the part, regardless of race.
I bet this was said by a white person.
Yep
And it is rather alarming that someone making a comment embodying the philosophy of Martin Luther King (“Don’t judge us by the color of out skin…”) gets responded to with “I bet this was said by a white person.”
So you want to evoke Martin L King well, as good an actor as Daniel Day Lewis is neither you nor I expect to see him playing Martin King in a bio pic. Colors matters. Art is created using colors. But historical and cultural realities exist and in those cases where that matters it is important to not just get the best but the best for that role.
Except MLK would advocate and celebrate that more POC is on media. After all, he convinced Nichelle Nichols to stay on Star Trek when the studio treated her crappily because the important to see positive, multi-faceted Black folks on screen. It is not lost on Black folks when White folks start invoking MLK to silence Black folks or other POC. I bet the person never read anything by MLK after than the I Have a Dream speech. It’s sad how White folks have tried to de-contextualize and sanitized Dr. King’s history. He would not defend White people losing a part of their privilege over POC. Never. Keep him out of your mouth if you are going to use him to silence POC.
Good call.
I bet they “don’t see colour”, either.
What’s wrong? You worried the black person isn’t the best actor for the part, and might have to earn it on merit rather than racial bullying?
Bingo!!!
No but then will it sell and if casting ETHINIC ROLES will al sharpton stop complaining I doubt it!
Read Amy Pascal and Scott (or whatever his name is) Rudins emails regrding Denzel Washington. Oliver Stone made the pilot of the downed 9/11 plane white even though the real pilot was black. And these are “liberals”.
As Stephen Colbert said, “I dont see race. I’ve evolved beyond that. I just pretend everyone is white, and it’s all good.”
Exactly, they only say it when they see non-whites getting parts. Prior to that, they were fine with casting based on race i.e. you just needed to be white and the door was wide open.
If you can look yourself in the mirror and say this was not a racist, vitriolic reply, you may also be looking at someone deluding themselves.
You realize that judging actors is subjective, right? Unless 9 out of 10 of the people who audition can’t act their way out of a paper bag and 1 is spectacular “best” is a judgement call. And we have all sorts of unconscious biases that cloud our judgment. Scripted TV has lagged behind reality TV in on-camera diversity because reality tv casts from a pool that represents America. If there’s an interracial couple on HGTV, they didn’t go through a bunch of hand-wringing and focus groups to cast them. They simply fit the bill of what the show was looking for. This article reads like a panicked white person worrying about the water in the swimming pool getting polluted if we allow black people in.
That’s never been the case.
“Just cast the best actor or actress for the part, regardless of race.”
Precisely. There is no other way.
(for the mental midgets: No, I’m not white)
How in the world is it too much of a good thing? And why bother stirring the pot over meaningless speculation? This whole piece reeks of comment baiting. It’s sad. Well played.
My first thought as well.
Comment baiting. Worked on you.
Yep. This story is wrong-headed. I’m a white actor — and I’m all for casting more ethnnic actors (and more women in main roles) than we do now, even if its not specified in the script.
When I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, there were far more ethnic actors (and extras) on most shows than there have been on TV in the last 15 or 20 years.
The vast, vast, vast (I could go on) majority of roles still go to white actors — and white (and a very specific type of white) is the default casting choice when the script doesn’t specify race.
blacks are 12% of the population and should represent 12% of the actors on television. That is proportional representation.
This is a well-written piece. Seeking diversity is essential, but quotas are bad for everyone. Great to see the success of shows like Empire, but shows should be authentic….and that can sometimes mean an all-white cast too.
But if whites are the beneficiary then quotas are alright, right?
Where did you get that from that post?
Can’t you read, he said quotas were bad for EVERYONE
The default character is simply no longer white, and if you can only write roles for white characters you’re not a very talented writer to begin with. These aren’t quotas; this is common sense casting for TV networks to make money (which is their primary objective). We’re seeing what happens when casting directors make savvy market decisions in the Best interest of the show–nothing more, and there’s no turning back now buddy.
Preach!
Oh baloney. Black people are only about 10% of the population. Casting black people (and let’s be honest, that’s always what is meant by “diversity”) is not mass marketing, lol.
Do you understand that “minority” is not synonymous for “black?” Over 35% of the country is made up MINORITIES from black, to hispanic, to asian to native american. I love how any time race is mentioned, people automatically think of black people. That is amazing, truly, I love that you think about us so much, but we are not the only minorities in the United States. And black people make up 13% of the country, and I am certain that 13% of shows on network TV has not been, and are not featuring black people, in leading roles.
At any rate, if you think that the demographics of the country should play a role in who is being cast for major roles, then I definitely agree. I look forward to all of the new hispanics getting roles to reflect their population.
Not only that but when you look at the younger demographics, they are even higher percentages of people of color and those are the folks advertisers are trying to reach.
Also, we should not presume that people of color are the only ones who want to see diverse casts. There are plenty of white people who would be bothered by shows like Sienfeld and Friends (shows based in incredibly diverse locales with little to no diversity in their casts)
Exactly. There are plenty of white people who enjoy seeing diversity on TV and it kind of paints them all negatively to suggest that they will refuse to watch a cast of people who are not white.
And usually does TV Writer!
How much you wanna bet that “TV Writer” has never referred to a character as “James, white, handsome but rough around the edges” in a script but has written “James, black, handsome but rough around the edges” a million times? What BAD writers don’t understand is that WE know you write white characters as default.
I mean, to play devil’s advocate, isn’t it better for diverse actors to have it not specified. If white isn’t written at all you could assume they’re white but you could also consider that maybe their race doesn’t matter and it could be played by anyone who can nail the role…?
That’s cute, but I live in here in reality where writers and casting directors by default think WHITE when a character’s race isn’t specified.
On a brighter note, there are many of us who are trying to change the landscape. I wrote a pilot that is currently in pre-production, and on the page, I didn’t identify any of my characters by their race. When our casting directors released the breakdowns, every role was marked as ALL ETHNICITIES. Here’s the thing: While writing, I envisioned the lead as a black woman. In my show bible, the reference pictures I used were of black women. We read black women, but ultimately ended up casting a white actress. Another one of our leads was envisioned as a red-headed, white woman, and we cast a black woman. Another was envisioned as a blonde white woman, and we cast an Asian woman. I’m Generation Y, so I’m not sure if that makes a difference…
As they should given that white people ARE the default because they are the MAJORITY race in this country.
But the vagueness still allows progressives to consider a non-white person for the role.
How do you “seek diversity” without making a point to make something diverse? People are throwing around the word “quota” to elicit a certain response from people. It is just another way to say Affirmative Action without actually having to say it.
Even in the article, there is this implication that the minority actors, who are going out for roles, are not as talented. This tends to be the belief of everyone who is against AA – that jobs are being taken by less skillful minorities (namely, black people) when part of the function of AA is that you are choosing equally skilled minorities. This is hard for many (white) people to grasp because they never call into question whether or not a white worker, up for a job, can be either equal to or not as qualified as the minority who is going out for the same job, so they automatically think that the minority who got the job only got it because of being a minority.
It is this kind of arrogance and sense of entitlement that makes it impossible to advance race relations.
The bottom line is that Hollywood has neglected minorities for a very long time, and now that they feel like they can make more money with minorities, they have made a shift. There have always been talented minorities to choose from, they just were not given a shot.
When I see an inauthentic obligatory quota casting, I turn off the show. They’re serving some agenda other than making the best possible show and they can do it on someone else’s time.
Can you tell me what a show like that looks like? What is an example of show that is just meeting quotas in your eyes? I am quite curious.
You’re not serious.. surely you’re not serious?
There is PLENTY of ALL WHITE CASTS in major tv shows/film in Hollywood. I can name Girls and Friends and Seinfeld as example (with the exception of when Donald Glover guest starred as Lena Dunham’s BF because of the back clash)
The fact that it has been hard to have non – caucasians in leading roles is troubling, and now that they’ve finally made good material for “ethnic people” this writer thinks its too much to bear?
I agree that it shouldn’t come to race – but when you’re doing a show about hip hop ala Empire and all you’ve got is caucasians, then it’s going to be very hard to make it believable.
why? Lets see Black Nick Fury Callisto Johnny Storm and yet whites cant be poor and into hip hop? Only chinese and blacks from Fresh off the Boat!
You’re a joke, this is a horrible article.
How is an all-white cast “authentic”?? Unless you are writing about a Klan meeting…..where is everyone “all white”?? What business?? What store?? What community?? Even in communities PREDOMINATELY white, there are people of color. A great example is the hit series Friends. Living in NYC….at a cafe…they had about 2 actors of color with speaking roles in 10 years. Is that the “authenticity” of which you speak?? lol What the hell are YOU writing??? lmao
Like pretty much EVERY show on tv. Duh. AND the white EMMY’s AND the white Oscars
Agree 100%
Deadline,
You should be ashamed of yourself for this race-baiting article. This article is the kind of hateful trash that is used to generate clicks and foment hatred against people of color because the brown people are taking all the jobs. Good Lord, you even see fit to use the loaded word “quota.”
How horrible that Danny Pudi, a star of Community got a job. How terrible that Joy Bryant, a star of Parenthood, got a job. All of these actors who’ve been on successful series got hired for pilots! The horror of it all! God forbid that Paula Patton, who’s starred in successful film projects like Mission Impossible got a pilot lead!
God help us that Asian, Latinos, blacks, and mixed-race people get jobs in Hollywood!
In years past, we would have seen articles about too many Jews or women hired for jobs or positions in at colleges. Now we get this junk.
By the way, I don’t see you complaining that all of the biblical productions have hired white actors to play non-white people.
I was going to make a comment but wow, I cannot get over that 1972 Boston police graduation. Are those cops or Rockettes?
…anyway what I was going to say is, this article doesn’t address WHY this is happening. It’s because the audience that is bailing on broadcast for streaming is disproportionately young and white, leaving a broadcast audience of old white people – who of course advertisers don’t want – and minority young people – so broadcast is making shows to attract them. Nothing different from usual here.
But this is just a stopgap measure. Nonwhite viewers are going to migrate to streaming just as whites have. At that point I guess broadcast can survive in some form by becoming an adjunct of Google, which is already figuring out how to serve the real master, advertisers.
You have posted the correct answer.
ooooh ooooh, I have a question: what’s the meaning of life?
This is pretty obvious, to the point where I don’t think that anyone who knows what they are talking about would argue the point.
I do think broadcast has a place in the new landscape – far less of the spectrum,, but programming that is heavy on local news (one of its reasons for existence and its regulation).
now that was a great point,,,,its not often people come up with Logical reasoning and that sir/mam was logic at it’s best!
This is a specious argument. The audience size of streaming does not reflect this large scale demographic flight
Not to mention the fact that the shows produced for network TV just go to the streaming services (Hulu, Netflix, etc) anyways, so it’s not like young white people are this lost generation. They watch the same programing just not live air…
I’m astounded at how tone deaf this is. Embarrassing.
Broadcast TV rattings have been dwindling for a decade or two. Instead of finding room in their timeslots for smart, progressive, and experimental content much like cable been doing for the last decade they ignored the Recent TV Renaissance. Those Niche audiences who wanted quality and writing that respected their intelligence moved to cable and alternative streaming services with Original Series content. Broadcast wants to open up their demographics well a show can’t just have a diverse cast it also need be dedicated to it concept and willing do subversive things with cliches and overused episodic plots.
A true Color Blind casting will only be possible when people behind the camera and execs in the studio system also become diverse.
+1
Hear hear. The fact remains that if you walk onto a typical film set, post-house or pitch meeting, the people there are overwhelmingly white (and male). Supposedly progressive Hollywood is less diverse than, say, Wall Street. It leads to blinders, and to tone-deaf pieces such as this one.
So right!
This is garbage. Broadcast tv ratings have been dwindling because the networks are now owned by conglomerates with a bottom line mentality that service stock price above all else. Networks killed tv when all they cranked out for years was cheap “reality” tv garbage. Excessive commercials, shortened seasons and other bottom line policies also helped kill tv. It is absurd to cite streaming services when no one knows the actual viewership of those shows, and cable shows are a joke. Cable shows are mini-series not tv seasons, with mostly low viewership. The answer to tv ratings woes isn’t more quotas, it is less conglomerates.
You are spot on with your comment. However, all American entertainment should reflect America’s diversity.
This is incredibly lame.
There needs to be balance. Too much one way or the other isn’t accomplishing anything. There haven’t been enough major roles for minority players every and now is the time. But let’s not displace non-minorities either.
Non-minorities=white people, will never become displaced. Don’t worry about it.
I hope ur right.
non-minorities? ahem just go ahead and say white people
I want to be shocked that this article exists, but sadly I’m not.
Kudos to you Annie. You have just won the internet!
Stunned by implicit racism of this headline & the writing of this article. How did this get past the editor? Basic premise seems to be that people of color are a not a people at all but a fad. We are taking food out of the mouths of hard-working more deserving white actors and inclusion is a threat to show business, if not society at large. In fact, if the trend continues, there is a danger of more minority representation on TV. The moral is the white establishment better wise up. You are naively opening the flood gates. The writing of this hit piece is almost comical if it weren’t so insidious.
This article reads like a hacked email one would WISH never saw the light of day…
I have no objection to networks insisting on minority casting after all these years. As noted in the article, there is a shortage of ‘experienced’ minority so let’s give these actors a shot now. Interestingly, as I started thinking about the issue recently, historically most of my favorite actors, particularly on television, are not the same identified race as me. Guess what? Don’t care.
I’m questing the claim that there is a shortage of experienced minority actors. Because you have seen them and because have been looked out, many actors us other venues for their experiences.
Deadline, go look up the response Latina magazine got when they tried to pull this mess regarding Empire and HAVE A SEAT!
I read that last week and it was glorious.
what if I told you that “ethnic” isn’t synonymous with “not white”
Poor white people. They have it sooooooo bad in Hollywood.
I hear The Mindy Project is doing well.
Whaaaaat? You mean they’re casting shows to more resemble the real day-to-day world we live in where there aren’t only white people? This is unacceptable!
Lol!! Soooo true..
I am all for having an informed discussion on issues of race in the entertainment industry; however, the tone of this article is directly in line with the same kind of xenophobia that plagues this world today. Fine, you’re entitled to your opinion but don’t try and convince me that it doesn’t wreak of that “there goes the neighborhood” mentality. Since you’re so worried, let me assure you, there will always be a place for white people on television.
I gave the internet to Annie, but, I take it back. You sir, are the winner. Fantastic comment. Right. On. The. Head.
Well said. You are my hero!!!
*applause* The over use of the word “ethnic” is key in that observation it frequently comes up when people don’t want to use the actual words in their hearts.
This is such an awesome comment. Especially that last line.
Kudos!