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Stanford football preview: Offense roundtable

With Stanford football set to open its season exactly one month from today, Daily football writers Michael Peterson, Do-Hyoung Park and Vihan Lakshman offered their opinions on several questions regarding the 2015 Stanford offense in the first part of their roundtable preview series for the Cardinal’s upcoming campaign.

Fifth-year senior quarterback Kevin Hogan (above) has led the Cardinal to two Rose Bowls, two Pac-12 titles and three straight eight-plus win seasons. However, Stanford fans have never been fully sold on Hogan's ability to take the Cardinal to the next level. Can he break that stigma in his final year at the helm? (DON FERIA/isiphotos.com)

Fifth-year senior quarterback Kevin Hogan (above) has led the Cardinal to two Rose Bowls, two Pac-12 titles and three straight eight-plus win seasons. However, Stanford fans have never been fully sold on Hogan’s ability to take the Cardinal to the next level. Can he break that stigma in his final year at the helm? (DON FERIA/isiphotos.com)

Can a notoriously inconsistent Hogan keep his late-2014 success going, or were those performances outliers?

Michael Peterson (MP): Hogan can absolutely replicate the overall performance he displayed late in 2014, but it would be unfair to him to expect gorgeous throws like the touchdowns he threw to Devon Cajuste and Michael Rector against UCLA on every play — he’s still going to make a few errant throws like we’ve seen throughout his career. However, Hogan demonstrated that with quality play from the offensive line and a decent running game, he can make all the throws Stanford needs to win and be dominant at times. That should continue in 2015.

Do-Hyoung Park (DHP): It’s been interesting to watch Hogan develop through his three years as a starter. In his 2012 and 2013 campaigns, he had a tremendous running game and offensive line but was held back by his playbook command and difficulty with his technique. Last year, he looked better mechanically and more comfortable in the system but was held back by a mental block (staring down Montgomery) and the pieces around him. This is the year it all comes together for Hogan — as a fourth-year starter, his playbook command and his improved mechanics will be at an all-time high, and all of the pieces around him will be running on all cylinders. Hogan will never be a world-beater, but he’ll be accurate and efficient. And that’s all Stanford needs.

Vihan Lakshman (VL): It’s easy to write off Hogan’s stellar finish to 2014 against Cal, UCLA and Maryland as a statistical aberration, but that would both discredit the huge strides Stanford made over the course of the season and overlook the challenges Hogan faced behind-the-scenes. Several reports have indicated that Hogan suffered a leg injury against Notre Dame, which clearly affected one of the hallmarks of his game: his mobility. We also know now that he played much of the 2014 season as his father battled cancer before passing away in early December. In short, those last three games for Hogan stand out as a triumph over adversity and the moment where the new-look offense began to click. Almost all of those key pieces return for the Cardinal, and Hogan personally is bringing a new level of confidence into the 2015 season. He won’t be a name at the center of the Heisman discussion, but he will bring years (wow, I feel old) of big-game experience and near-mastery of the playbook, which should give Stanford a huge boost.


 

By being selected with the 13th overall pick by the New Orleans Saints, Andrus Peat '16 (left) was the Cardinal's first top-20 selection in the NFL Draft since Andrew Luck. Even with Peat anchoring the left side of the line, though, the Tunnel Workers' Union suffered from arguably one of its worst seasons in the Harbaugh-Shaw era. (DAVID BERNAL/isiphotos.com)

By being selected with the 13th overall pick by the New Orleans Saints, Andrus Peat ’16 (left) was the Cardinal’s first top-20 selection in the NFL Draft since Andrew Luck. Even with Peat anchoring the left side of the line, though, the Tunnel Workers’ Union suffered from arguably one of its worst seasons in the Harbaugh-Shaw era. (DAVID BERNAL/isiphotos.com)

Biggest loss from the 2014 offense?

MP: Not to discredit the incredible play of Andrus Peat and Ty Montgomery, but Stanford’s offense appears perfectly capable of replacing both players’ production in 2015. All-Pac-12 tackle Kyle Murphy shifts into Peat’s old spot with former five-star recruit Casey Tucker likely to take over on the right side, and Stanford has Cajuste, Rector, Christian McCaffrey and four future NFL tight ends at its disposal in the passing game. Montgomery’s loss will hurt just a bit more now that Stanford no longer has a single receiver who clearly requires a double team, or at least extra attention.

DHP: I hate the cop-out answer, but I really can’t identify any of Stanford’s offensive losses as “big.” Like Michael said, the loss of Peat shouldn’t hurt the Cardinal too much since Stanford is stacked on the line and should be able to fill in at tackle adequately. I’m also not worried about the loss of Montgomery — as much as I hate to say it, Hogan seemed to go through his progressions much more effectively when Montgomery was hurt last year, making him a better quarterback. Lee Ward is also a big loss but Daniel Marx is a great fullback. If I really had to pick one, I’d have to go with Peat just because the depth on offensive line is least proven, particularly with the injury to Nick Davidson. But Stanford’s track record with offensive line health has always been pretty good, so I’m not horribly worried there either (knock on wood).

VL: There’s only one answer to this question. At 6-foot-7, 313 pounds, Peat is by far the “biggest” loss from the 2014 offense. Do and Michael are spot-on when they mention that Stanford’s envious offensive line depth, especially the number of underclassmen with game experience, will likely soften the blow of losing Stanford’s first top-15 NFL draft pick since Andrew Luck. Nevertheless, Peat is a special talent, who anchored the left side of the line since his sophomore year. Kyle Murphy and Casey Tucker are more than ready to step into their new roles, but that doesn’t discount the fact that losing a player of Peat’s caliber will always hurt.


 

Stanford fans were upset that sophomore Christian McCaffrey (right), who quickly emerged as one of the most dynamic playmakers on Stanford's offense, wasn't given more opportunities to make plays by head coach David Shaw. With Shaw having gone on record to say that the offense will run through McCaffrey in 2015, the hype for the young running back is off the charts. (DAVID BERNAL/isiphotos.com)

Stanford fans were upset that sophomore Christian McCaffrey (right), who quickly emerged in 2014 as one of the most dynamic playmakers on Stanford’s offense, wasn’t given more opportunities to make plays from head coach David Shaw. With Shaw having gone on record to say that the offense will run through McCaffrey in 2015, the hype for the young running back is off the charts. (DAVID BERNAL/isiphotos.com)

What is Christian McCaffrey’s role in the offense going to look like? What’s his ceiling?

MP: McCaffrey is now the Ty Montgomery of the offense, except as a much more frequent runner. Running up the middle, running to the outside, receiving screen and swing passes, lining up as a slot receiver, serving as the wildcat quarterback — it will all be used to get McCaffrey’s hands on the ball as often as possible. McCaffrey is one of the most valuable players in the Pac-12, and if Stanford gets him at least 20 touches a game as it should, he could be touted as one of the best all-around offensive players in the nation.

DHP: I’m really wary of the “get one guy the ball as much as possible” philosophy, because it really simplifies decision-making for defenses. I mean, just look at what happened last year with Ty — defenses knew that Stanford would try to force him the ball no matter what, so they doubled him and forced Hogan into bad, bad throws and decisions that could have been avoided without the “get Ty the ball no matter what” philosophy. I think McCaffrey should be kept in a similar role as last year — line him up in the slot occasionally, use him on perimeter runs, get him Wildcat touches — even if he isn’t the primary back out of Stanford’s backfield, there will be many, many opportunities to get him touches and make him into one of the Pac-12’s most dynamic threats. Just as long as Stanford doesn’t overdo it and try to force McCaffrey the ball when it shouldn’t.

VL: McCaffrey will likely enter the season as the centerpiece of an offense that makes no secret over what it hopes to do: run the ball down your throat. The sophomore running back has worked on bulking up in the offseason to handle the rigors of carrying a heavier load and becoming more adept in pass protection, a necessity for any feature back in David Shaw’s system. I’m actually a fan of the “get McCaffrey the ball as much as possible” strategy because, thus far, no team has proven it can stop him. More than seven yards per carry as a freshman, even with a limited amount of touches, is awfully impressive. McCaffrey also has a different skill set from Montgomery and won’t be involved in as many deep throws into double-coverage as Do alluded to. Instead, he will likely receive a steady diet of handoffs, pitches and screen passes, which should re-establish the run game and bring back the play-action pass, which went missing in 2014.


 

Junior tight end Austin Hooper (top) gave a refreshing rejuvenation to Stanford's tight end position after a combination of Davis Dudchock, Charlie Hopkins, Luke Kaumatule and Eddie Plantaric gave Stanford essentially no production from the position in 2013. Hooper now spearheads an electric position group that's poised to be among Stanford's most talented ever. (DAVID BERNAL/isiphotos.com)

Junior tight end Austin Hooper (top) gave a refreshing rejuvenation to Stanford’s tight end position after a combination of Davis Dudchock, Charlie Hopkins, Luke Kaumatule and Eddie Plantaric gave Stanford essentially no production from the position in 2013. Hooper now spearheads an electric tight end group that’s poised to be among Stanford’s most talented ever. (DAVID BERNAL/isiphotos.com)

Will the presence of four highly-touted tight ends change Stanford’s offensive approach?

MP: If there’s any team in college football that knows how to effectively use four different tight ends, it’s Stanford. We should see Austin Hooper and Dalton Schultz split out wide more often, allowing Greg Taboada and Eric Cotton to join the tight-end party on the field lined up adjacent to the offensive line. Stanford certainly isn’t lacking for red-zone weapons this year and will have no excuse if poor play persists in the red zone.

DHP: I think each of them will have his own tightly-defined role. I don’t think Cotton will get as involved in the passing game, while Taboada will continue to see time in the red zone on fades and jump balls. I honestly have no idea how big of a role Schultz will have before fall practices start, so it’ll be really interesting for me to see if and how they work him into the offense. As for Hooper, well, I’ve made no secret of the fact that I think he’ll be one of the most effective players in the country this year. He’s effectively a second Devon Cajuste out there and eerily reminiscent of Zach Ertz, playing as a big possession receiver most of the time while also retaining lethal effectiveness in medium-to-deep passes up the seam. I don’t think the offense will be all too different from the end of last year, and that’s great, because that’s where Stanford is at its best.

VL: Stanford has been notorious in past seasons for putting out more formations than just about any team in the country, and having four play-making tight ends has to make the mad-scientist side of David Shaw a little giddy. We’ll see a lot of two- and three-tight end sets and maybe even all four on the field at once to throw defenses a look no one else in the Pac-12 can hope to replicate. I like Do’s point that Cotton, Hooper, Taboada and Schultz should each have well-defined roles, similar to what the Cardinal had with the Tree Amigos: Fleener was the burner on the outside, Ertz was the route-runner and Toilolo was the best blocker and jump-ball specialist. At this point, it’s a little too early to say where each of the current four will fit, but the possibilities certainly look appetizing.


 

Seniors Graham Shuler (52), Kyle Murphy (78) and Josh Garnett (51) were, along with Peat, part of the ultra-touted 2012 recruiting class, which gave Stanford its most talented offensive line haul in history. However, the line struggled to live up to otherworldly expectations in 2014, as the unit had trouble with penalties and inexperience. Can the line rebound in 2015? (DAVID BERNAL/isiphotos.com)

Seniors Graham Shuler (52), Kyle Murphy (78) and Josh Garnett (51) were, along with Peat, part of the ultra-touted 2012 recruiting class, which gave Stanford its most talented offensive line haul in history. However, the line struggled to live up to otherworldly expectations in 2014, as the unit had trouble with penalties and inexperience. Can the line rebound in 2015? (DAVID BERNAL/isiphotos.com)

Can the offensive line return to the traditional dominance of old?

MP: The 2014 offensive line faced unrealistic expectations for essentially a group full of first-year starters due to the number of stars attached to its 2012 recruiting rankings. This time around, the unit appears to be in much better shape, with last year’s experience and three impeccable performances at the end of 2014 under its belt. Putting last year’s expectations on this group might result in more disappointment, but the offensive line should clearly improve and at least approach the success of past units, if not quite exceed that success as once expected.

DHP: Can it? Absolutely. On paper, this is one of the best offensive lines in the country. But as we saw last year, that doesn’t really mean much because the game isn’t played on paper. So will it return to traditional dominance? Unlike last year, I can’t see why not. If nothing changes from the end of last season and the line plays like it did against Cal, UCLA and Maryland, there aren’t many better units in the country. All it needs to do is keep up that form and stop committing stupid penalties (and given the significant experience the linemen have now, I think they should make significant strides in that area) and it should be fine.

VL: I don’t know about “return to the traditional dominance of old” because that’s a bar set awfully high, but I do expect 2015 edition of the Tunnel Workers’ Union to be among the best offensive lines in the conference and perhaps even the entire country. With the exception of Peat, all of the starters from last year’s unit are returning and we can’t understate how valuable that cohesion can be with the struggles we saw the young line face at the beginning of last season. The left side featuring Murphy and Josh Garnett will be something special, and I expect Stanford to routinely run the ball in that direction. I also expect the jumbo package to live on in all of its glory and Brandon Fanaika, a 6-foot-3, 321-pound sophomore, might become a household name when it comes to picking up those tough yards. Ultimately, Stanford’s O-line will be good in 2015, but there’s no need to keep comparing it to its predecessors.


 

Sophomore Isaiah Brandt-Sims has made more of a reputation for himself on the track than on the gridiron, but has the raw talent and potential to be an explosive player if he is worked into the offense. Five-star wideout recruit Trent Irwin could also see action as a true freshman and start to make his mark on the Cardinal offense early in his career. (DAVID BERNAL/isiphotos.com)

Sophomore Isaiah Brandt-Sims (above) has made more of a reputation for himself on the track than on the gridiron, but has the raw talent and potential to be an explosive player if he is worked into the offense. Five-star wideout recruit Trent Irwin could also see action as a true freshman and start to make his mark on the Cardinal offense early in his career. (DAVID BERNAL/isiphotos.com)

Most likely newcomer to make an impact?

MP: A true freshman earning a consistent role on offense at Stanford is a rarity, despite McCaffrey’s showing last season, so while five-star receiver Trent Irwin brings great talent to the Farm, I don’t expect him to play a significant role in 2015. Former top tight-end recruit Dalton Schultz, ready for play after redshirting in 2014, should earn plenty of playing time, though. Even in the midst of three other talented tight ends, all signs point to Schultz being another star in the Cardinal’s long line of successful tight ends.

DHP: I’m going to go with the high-risk, high-reward pick in Isaiah Brandt-Sims. It’s easy to overlook him because of how deep Stanford’s receiving corps is, but I’m still shocked that nobody has been talking about the guy that’s been smashing Stanford sprinting records left and right. If used properly, he could be one of the most electric home-run threats on Stanford’s offense, and I’m really excited to see if and how he plays his role on the 2015 Cardinal. In terms of newcomers, I think he’s got the biggest impact potential. Schultz is a good pick, but I think his touches will be hard to come by with Austin Hooper set to become one of the top tight end producers in the nation. As a footnote, remember that Daniel Marx and Chris Harrell are the only listed fullbacks on the roster, meaning that I’d give incoming freshmen Reagan Williams and Houston Heimuli pretty good shots at seeing meaningful action as well.

VL: In the last decade, an average of four receivers per year have earned a five-star rating on 247Sports. Out of those receivers, a little over a quarter of them have gone on to make the NFL. Trent Irwin, labeled a five-star recruit by some experts, is obviously far from a lock to make it to the NFL or even guaranteed to play in his true freshman season, but the fact is that five-star receivers don’t grow on trees and Irwin’s talent is undeniable. With the loss of leading receiver Montgomery as well as sure-handed contributors in Jeff Trojan and Jordan Pratt, Stanford might be starving for an additional playmaker who can stretch the field and make plays down the stretch. At Pac-12 Media Day, Shaw even said that Irwin is the most likely freshman to see the field this season — and training camp hasn’t even started. It’s very possible that we won’t get a look at the jewel of the 2015 class until next season, but there’s definitely a chance he can make an impact this year.


 

Many pointed fingers at Stanford's offensive line for the Cardinal's offensive inconsistency last season. With four of five starters returning, though, the group may be poised to turn the corner and again become the unit known around the nation for its physical dominance of its opponents. (ROBIN ALAM/isiphotos.com)

Many pointed fingers at Stanford’s offensive line for the Cardinal’s offensive inconsistency last season. With four of five starters returning, though, the group may be poised to turn the corner and again become the unit known around the nation for its physical dominance of its opponents. (ROBIN ALAM/isiphotos.com)

Player most critical to the offense’s success?

MP: The biggest difference in Stanford’s play over 2014’s final three games, in my opinion, was the performance of the offensive line. Stanford needs a similar high-level of play this year, and that all starts with left tackle Kyle Murphy. Murphy not only protects Hogan’s blind side but also paves the way for the running game, as the Cardinal will again look to run behind the left side because of Murphy, Josh Garnett and Graham Shuler. Succeed in that, and Stanford’s offense clicks just like in the conclusion of 2014.

DHP: I couldn’t agree more with Michael on this one. We saw last year just how critical the success of the offensive line is to Stanford’s offense. That will dictate how effectively the running backs are able to operate out of the backfield and how much time Hogan will have to set his feet and find his playmakers in space. I think the most important in there will be Josh Garnett. The guards play such an important position in Stanford’s offense due to the importance of the pulling offensive lineman in Stanford’s bread-and-butter power run, and Garnett in particular had major struggles with penalties last season, meaning that improvement in his discipline will make a huge difference in Stanford’s affinity for drawing the laundry this year.

VL: I’m going to go with senior wide receiver Michael Rector. After bursting on the scene in his redshirt freshman season with an insane 30.8 yards per catch, the explosive receiver started out a little slower in 2014 before — as with the rest of the offense — rebounding with a huge month of November, recording 11 catches for 120 yards. If Rector can continue to establish himself as one of the top receiving threats in the conference, Stanford will have another major weapon to turn to if teams start to lock in on the running game or direct more of their attention towards Devon Cajuste. This season could be a breakout one for Rector, one that could elevate this offense significantly.

Contact Michael Peterson at mrpeters ‘at’ stanford.edu, Do-Hyoung Park at dhpark ‘at’ stanford.edu and Vihan Lakshman at vihan ‘at’ stanford.edu.

About Michael Peterson

Michael Peterson is a senior staff writer at The Stanford Daily. He has served as a beat reporter for football, baseball and men’s soccer and also does play-by-play broadcasting of football and baseball for KZSU. Michael is a senior from Rancho Santa Margarita, California majoring in computer science. To contact him, please email him at mrpeters ‘at’ stanford.edu.

About Do-Hyoung Park

Do-Hyoung Park '16 is a Managing Editor of Staff Development, lead football writer and copy editor at The Stanford Daily. He also writes about Stanford football for Sports Illustrated's new college football site, Campus Rush. In his three years, he has written primarily football, baseball, soccer, tennis, swimming and water polo, and has covered a Rose Bowl, a Super Regional run and three national championships. Do-Hyoung is a senior that is obnoxiously proud of being from Saint Paul, Minnesota studying chemical engineering and computer science. To contact him, please email him at dpark027 'at' stanford.edu.

About Vihan Lakshman

Vihan Lakshman is a desk editor and columnist for the Opinions Section. He also contributes to the Daily's coverage of Stanford football and baseball and has served as a broadcaster for women's soccer, men's basketball and baseball on KZSU. Vihan is a sophomore from Savannah, Ga. (currently undeclared). In his free time, he loves reading and playing just about any sport. To contact him, please email vihan@stanford.edu.
  • ADPATERSON79

    Excellent writeup. Agree on Hogan coming in solid. Goff and Kessler are gun slingers. Hogan is a field marshall with legs, and Shaw has a LOT of confidence in him.
    Good mention of Isaiah Brandt-Sims (100m, 200m sprint champ) — Can he also run a crisp 15-yard hook for a first down? The defenders will peg him as a flaming fly route decoy (for a throw to McCaff or a TE) every time he comes in unless Hogan also throws short to him.
    This is the best WR / TE Corp EVER fielded at Stanford, I submit (even with TY gone).
    [Go add up stars of the 10-12 guys vs previous years]. Double the talent A.Luck had.

    * What is prospect for Bryce Love or Cam Scarlett as true Frosh to break in at RB (they did not red shirt McCaff) ?
    * My view on all the transfers over summer is they were not going to get playing time for the most part with the incoming talent level (Wayne Lyons and Hoffpauer were unique situations).
    * Could we use big 320 Fanaika at Nose Tackle a few downs (3rd and short) ? Owen Marecic played both ways occasionally. How is DT Harrison Phillips coming along?
    Imagine the Defense if the DL surprises to the upside (!)
    * Lastly, the DB frosh might be the “Fab 4″ [F. Buncom, Q.Meeks, B.Edwards and J.Reid — son of 49er safety Eric Reid] — best DB class every landed… a tribute to Coach Akina and the “Richard Sherman legacy”. Which of them might get playing time?

    ADP, Stanford Daily 1978
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/Stanfordclassof79/

  • Do-Hyoung Park

    Completely agree on the receiving corps. Going to be a huge year for Hooper/Cajuste if the O-line can hold up.

    I’d doubt Love or Scarlett can break in, especially since Wright should still be the go-to guy on short-yardage situations and Barry has, by all accounts, made huge strides in every element of his game during the offseason. Add McCaffrey into the picture, and that’s one crowded backfield. Love and Scarlett are both the big power-back types like Wright, so why waste a year of eligibility when you’ll get similar production from your current guys?

    Fanaika could be interesting but I think the depth at O-line is too shallow to try and push him in there and risk injury. If anything, I bet freshman Wesley Annan (comes in at 280 lbs.) will break into the Shittu/Phillips rotation at nose. Phillips has put on 20 pounds this offseason and should be a freak at all positions on the line.

    I actually wouldn’t be surprised if none of the DB freshmen get a chance to play — I think Holder/Harris/Alexander/Thomas will hold their own at CB, and I think Lloyd/Whitfield at safety will have big years. Not to mention Simmons and Franklin, who should be talented backups. I think Edwards/Reid are more likely to play if something goes wrong because I suspect they’ll want to keep Buncom/Meeks in a redshirt year so that when Harris and Pippens leave next year they’ll be ready to go.

  • ADPATERSON79

    Sharp, detailed “inside the tree ring” analysis. Cheers! That’s what us “Class Bloggers” (1979) need going into SBNATION RuleOfTree Gamethreads and tailgaters (digital or live) this season.
    Aim high. Beat SC, throttle the Ducks at home in PA, and dump the Domers. A one-loss Pac12 team makes the Playoff. As OHST showed last year… then anything can happen. My call: OHST again; SEC champ; and TCU vs Baylor victor; then Pac12 winner. ACC on sidelines. Big12 won’t be on sidelines two years in a row. Oregon needs to beat MIST in E.Lansing on Sept 12 as a “measure up” game. Ditto USC at N.DAME.
    I like our chances in Coliseum [See 2007!, 2009, 2011 in 3OT, plus epic 1979!! and 1991 and 1999].

  • Candid One

    Do, you’ve confused the reality of Bryce Love, who’s a Glyn Milburn/Darrin Nelson type of back.

    Also, on paper, Cam Scarlett is a virtual clone of Tyler Gaffney as a frosh…4-star, same size and speed. While it’s rare for a RB to play as a raw freshman at Stanford in the Harbaugh-Shaw era, the “jury” should still be out in Scarlett’s case. His main obstacle to playing will be his grasp of the playbook–and pass protection, which the smaller McCaffrey didn’t have to master. Although Cam Scarlett will still be developing physically, it’ll be interesting to see how the coaches handle him. Most folks–including the coaches probably–don’t realize that Tyler Gaffney is faster than Christian McCaffrey. The lack of productive alternatives gave McCaffrey an earlier window of opportunity than the coaches had foreseen–unlike Gaffney’s timing behind Gerhart and Taylor. Scarlett is the first quasi-proto bell cow in the post-Gaffney era. Heck, isn’t this what fantasy’s all about?

  • Do-Hyoung Park

    You’re completely right about Love — my mistake! Although I’d still be doubtful about Scarlett getting action, even if Stanford needs a bell cow back because of, like you said, the pass protection and the playbook. If anything, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Marx get some carries as a bigger back like he did at the start of last season, especially if Wright struggles.

  • Candid One

    Re: my exuberant fantasizing on Cameron Scarlett–although the Cardinal coaches are essentially unanimous on his Tyler Gaffney resemblance, on and off the field–is somewhat diminished by the reality of an ACL tear that he incurred near the end of last season. According to certain Lombardi person, David Shaw has reservations about playing Scarlett too soon…which may be a tipping point for a redshirt season in 2015. BTW, Cameron Scarlett’s YouTube highlights do resemble Tyler Gaffney. Gaffney was a baseball player while Scarlett was a track guy, but Cameron will primarily benefit from the Gaffney success…there were aspects of Tyler’s talent that were clearly underused by the Stanford coaches.

  • maddogsfavsnpiks

    Mostly concur esp ’bout Love ..however, i’ve read somewhere that McCaffrey *is* expected to pass block, and i seem to recall seeing him do so on a few occasions with mixed results.. last ssn and spring.. and my latest obs is he’s getting better..
    One more thang …please, out of respect for the women in our audience, stopping referring to Gerhard, Taylor, and Gaffney as “cows” ..utterly ridiculous !

  • maddogsfavsnpiks

    – Can you elaborate on your “Class Bloggers” concept ?

    – Stanford could lose 2 on the season, and still be in the thick of it for a play-off birth. For instance: (and good call on past trends in El Lay) a solid win @ the E-Coliseeum vs #2 $C in wk 3; add convincing Hm wins vs #11 Arizona, # 8 UCLA; then underestimate the homecoming game and distractions vs Washington and dangerous HC Petersen in a close, tough loss that could have gone either way, 30-31; 3 weeks later demolish #5 Ducks, then look past wobbling 3-loss #20 Dames in ssn finale, another close loss, but follow that with win vs #10, Utah (also 10-2) in the P12 ‘ship, 24-16, a tough hard-nosed struggle featuring great defense on both sides (Utah has one of the best LB group in the business, plus dynamic Gionni Paul back from inj) but Tree wins = 11-2 record; 5-1 vs mostly high-ranked opponents, finally up against the following contenders for play-off berth : Ohio St 12-1, Auburn 11-2, Stanford 11-2, Clemson 11-2, TCU 10-2, ND 9-3, …there’s a national hue and cry from self-immolating and suicidal Catholics cuzov their Head-2-Head victory over the Card, but Condileeza casts the deciding vote on the committee to save the trees… lol

  • ADPATERSON79

    “Class blogger” = the more active alumni classes maintain Facebook pages by class. I post summaries and insights for Class of 1979.
    Your scenario is amusing, but I think remote. Other than OHST and MIST, B1G10 (nay, 14) looks like a Big2 again. Hence, the Duck’s trip to MIST Sept 12 looms large, with early Playoff implications. OHST gets the first spot until they lose; and they look like they could beat Bengals or Browns this year. I believe the Big12 serves up the TCU vs Baylor winner (OKLA a dark horse, if undefeated). SEC West survivor gets a third spot if SEC Champ (likely, unless Georgia plays spoiler). And the Pac12 Champ garners 4th spot because Committee will want Oregon or USC in the Playoff (or a one-loss Stanford team). A two-loss Pac12 Champ gives the Comm an excuse to grab a one-loss ACC champ (FSU or Clemson?). In that bad case, the Pac12 champ would get the B1G10 champ game loser for the Rose Bowl.
    Notre Dame needs to be one-loss at most to make the Playoff. Too many teams have arguments if Domers suffer two losses.

  • Candid One

    Understood, the “bell” aspect doesn’t have a transgender effect.

    BTW, Bryce Love may out-McCaffrey Christian…more speed and quickness–if he’s not a redshirt.

  • maddogsfavsnpiks

    C. One writes, “..the ‘bell’ aspect doesn’t have a transgender effect ” ?? ..i’m sorry, maybe it’s the ringing in my ears, but that comment just doesn’t quite ring true somehow..
    Not to mention that anyway you slice it, dice it, or neuter it, the fact of the matter is, “cows” are females in the world we live in, and bulls are males.. apparently even The Donald has you trumped on that one..
    So, please, henceforth, call them “bell bulls” if you must… that is, if you must refer to them as cattle at all..
    For instance, one could very well write :
    This year’s best bell bull prospect is Cam Scarlett, who will hopefully be healthy and ready to answer the bell, in Evanston, 9/5, 9am pst. Time will tell.

  • maddogsfavsnpiks

    ..”amusing but remote” ay ? Well, you’re welcome for the chuckles.
    But in reality, if either B12 (really 10) team, TCU or Baylor, have 2 losses, ie 10-2 in the scenario i presented above, hasta la vista, baby.
    Without a league championship game they will be SOL again, vs an 11-2, winner of the P12 ‘ship, ie Stanford; likewise vs an 11-2 SEC team or an 11-2 ACC team; and mos def vs a 12-1 B1G team.. that’s a clear condition in the playoff picking guidelines, ‘ship games are MAJOR variables. Independents like ND and BYU suffer from the same deficiency as B12 teams. Note – there was a major movement this off season in B12 territory, to add ‘ships to their league scheds but former Stanford guy Bowlsby reportedly squelched that effort. (..it’s great to have folks like Condi and Bob in your corner ;-).