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Johann Hari: The Pope, the Prophet, and the religious support for evil

This enforced 'respect' is a creeping vine: it soon extends from ideas to institutions


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What can make tens of millions of people – who are in their daily lives peaceful and compassionate and caring – suddenly want to physically dismember a man for drawing a cartoon, or make excuses for an international criminal conspiracy to protect child-rapists? Not reason. Not evidence. No. But it can happen when people choose their polar opposite – religion. In the past week we have seen two examples of how people can begin to behave in bizarre ways when they decide it is a good thing to abandon any commitment to fact and instead act on faith. It has led some to regard people accused of the attempted murders of the Mohamed cartoonists as victims, and to demand "respect" for the Pope, when he should be in a police station being quizzed about his role in covering up and thereby enabling the rape of children.

In 2005, 12 men in a small secular European democracy decided to draw a quasi-mythical figure who has been dead for 1400 years. They were trying to make a point. They knew that in many Muslim cultures, it is considered offensive to draw Mohamed. But they have a culture too – a European culture that believes it is important to be allowed to mock and tease and ridicule religion. It is because Europeans have been doing this for centuries now that we can no longer be tyrannised into feeling bad about perfectly natural impulses, like masturbation, or pre-marital sex, or homosexuality. When priests offer those old arguments, we now laugh in their faces – a great liberating moment. It will be a shining day for Muslims when they can do the same.

Some of the cartoons were witty. Some were stupid. One seemed to suggest Muslims are inherently violent – an obnoxious and false idea. If you disagree with the drawings, you should write a letter, or draw a better cartoon, this time mocking the cartoonists. But some people did not react this way. Instead, Islamist plots to hunt the artists down and slaughter them began. Earlier this year, a man with an axe smashed into one of their houses, and very nearly killed the cartoonist in front of his small grand-daughter.

This week, another plot to murder them seems to have been exposed, this time allegedly spanning Ireland and the United States, and many people who consider themselves humanitarians or liberals have rushed forward to offer condemnation – of the cartoonists. One otherwise liberal newspaper ran an article saying that since the cartoonists had engaged in an "aggressive act" and shown "prejudice... against religion per se", so it stated menacingly that no doubt "someone else is out there waiting for an opportunity to strike again".

Let's state some principles that – if religion wasn't involved – would be so obvious it would seem ludicrous to have to say them out loud. Drawing a cartoon is not an act of aggression. Trying to kill somebody with an axe is. There is no moral equivalence between peacefully expressing your disagreement with an idea – any idea – and trying to kill somebody for it. Yet we have to say this because we have allowed religious people to claim their ideas belong to a different, exalted category, and it is abusive or violent merely to verbally question them. Nobody says I should "respect" conservatism or communism and keep my opposition to them to myself – but that's exactly what is routinely said about Islam or Christianity or Buddhism. What's the difference?

This enforced "respect" is a creeping vine. It soon extends beyond religious ideas to religious institutions – even when they commit the worst crimes imaginable. It is now an indisputable fact that the Catholic Church systematically covered up the rape of children across the globe, and knowingly, consciously put paedophiles in charge of more kids. Joseph Ratzinger – who claims to be "infallible" – was at the heart of this policy for decades.

Here's what we are sure of. By 1962, it was becoming clear to the Vatican that a significant number of its priests were raping children. Rather than root it out, they issued a secret order called "Crimen Sollicitationis"' ordering bishops to swear the victims to secrecy and move the offending priest on to another parish. This of course meant they raped more children there, and on and on, in parish after parish. Yes, these were different times, but the Vatican knew then that what it was doing was terribly wrong: that's why it was done in the utmost secrecy.

It has emerged this week that when Ratzinger was Archbishop of Munich in the 1980s, one of his paedophile priests was "reassigned" in this way. He claims he didn't know. Yet a few years later he was put in charge of the Vatican's response to this kind of abuse and demanded every case had to be referred directly to him for 20 years. What happened on his watch, with every case going to his desk? Precisely this pattern, again and again. The BBC's Panorama studied one of many such cases. Father Tarcisio Spricigo was first accused of child abuse in 1991, in Brazil. He was moved by the Vatican four times, wrecking the lives of children at every stop. He was only caught in 2005 by the police, before he could be moved on once more. He had written in his diary about the kind of victims he sought: "Age: 7, 8, 9, 10. Social condition: Poor. Family condition: preferably a son without a father. How to attract them: guitar lessons, choir, altar boy." It happened all over the world, wherever the Catholic Church had outposts.

Far from changing this paedophile-protecting model, Ratzinger reinforced it. In 2001 he issued a strict secret order demanding that charges of child-rape should be investigated by the Church "in the most secretive way... restrained by a perpetual silence... and everyone... is to observe the strictest secret." Since it was leaked, Ratzinger claims – bizarrely – that these requirements didn't prevent bishops from approaching the police. Even many people employed by the Vatican at the time say this is wrong. Father Tom Doyle, who was a Vatican lawyer working on these cases, says it "is an explicit written policy to cover up cases of child sexual abuse and to punish those who would call attention to these crimes... Nowhere in any of these documents does it say anything about helping the victims. The only thing it does say is they can impose fear on the victims, and punish [them], for disclosing what happened." Doyle was soon fired.

Imagine if this happened at The Independent. Imagine I discovered there was a paedophile ring running our crèche, and the Editor issued a stern order that it should be investigated internally with "the strictest secrecy". Imagine he merely shuffled the paedophiles to work in another crèche at another newspaper, and I agreed, and made the kids sign a pledge of secrecy. We would both – rightly – go to prison. Yet because the word "religion" is whispered, the rules change. Suddenly, otherwise good people who wouldn't dream of covering up a paedophile ring in their workplace think it would be an insult to them to follow one wherever it leads in their Church. They would find this behaviour unthinkable without the irrational barrier of faith standing between them and reality.

Yes, I understand some people feel sad when they see a figure they were taught as a child to revere – whether Prophet or Pope – being subjected to rational examination, or mockery, or criminal investigation. But everyone has ideas they hold precious. Only you, the religious, demand to be protected from debate or scrutiny that might discomfort you. The fact you believe an invisible supernatural being approves of – or even commands – your behaviour doesn't mean it deserves more respect, or sensitive handling. It means it deserves less. If you base your behaviour on such a preposterous fantasy, you should expect to be checked by criticism and mockery. You need it.

If you can't bear to hear your religious figures criticised – if you think Ratzinger is somehow above the law, or Mohamed should be defended with an axe – a sane society should have only one sentence for you. Tell it to the judge.

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Thank you
[info]pmarston wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 07:11 am (UTC)
Johann Hari, thank you for the clearest piece of writing on the ridiculous 'respect' demanded by religious people for their unsupportable superstitious beliefs I have seen in an English language newspaper. You show that the best way to gain a truly moral perspective is to look at the world without the filter of 'faith'.
Re: Thank you
[info]yudishtera wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:21 am (UTC)
Traditionally liberal society has respected peoples right to their own religion, but lately some very nasty religious fundamentalists have been twisting that fine principle by insisting on respect for their religion. It's like free speech, just because you defend peoples right to say something, it doesn't mean that you have to agree with it or even respect it.
I agree
[info]andrea_2 wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:00 am (UTC)
with every word you say about religion, Mr Hari but it is not about Faith it is about power. The religious men who are part of these ideologies wield great power and without their religion they lose it. And one way to maintain power is to create a climate of fear. These religious groups are no different than the mafia, for example. They seek to control through fear of violence. They are deeply damaged by the brainwashing they have received since birth. Some are converts, I know, but there is no greater zealot than a convert.

I will not be told by the law that I have to respect these religions. I won't. I don't. And I never can. But stop thinking of them as anything spiritual, they are not. They are political organisations who dress themselves up as Faith in order to quell criticism from the outside world.

The men at the top of these religions send their drones out over the planet, killing, hiding abuse, dealing in organised crime, whilst all the time claiming that they have devine rights and authority to do these things. Maybe some of them even believe it. There is no difference between many of the World's organised religions and secular belief systems. They want power and they want to keep it.
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Re: I smell winter - [info]kiwi_expat - Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 07:13 am (UTC) Expand
Re: I smell winter - [info]akaismellwinter - Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 03:07 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: I agree - [info]dinkle69 - Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 02:24 pm (UTC) Expand
[info]mensliberty wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:00 am (UTC)
As always, wonderful writing. Thank you for always bringing such wonderful analysis to everything you write about.
[info]hybridartifacts wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:06 am (UTC)
No group deserves special treatment or 'respect' - but that does not only apply to religions, but also to governments and to businesses. It is not only religious fervour that can lead to abuses, problems and even crimes, but the pursuit of profit or power as well.
Every individual and group should be able to be held accountable for their actions.

The problem when 'Christian' groups do this sort of things is also that they have generally sought to take a moral high ground, and really should be vigorous in applying their own principles and beliefs to actually deal with problems responsibly rather than try to sweep them under the carpet and thus become participants as well. The same could easily be said for politicians though who generally lecture us on morality, legality and so on and then bend or break those principles to suit their own purposes and hide behind parliamentary privilege.
Religion is people opium - where did I hear this?
[info]lupo_max wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:11 am (UTC)
I'm Italian, and, you know, we have the Pope in our living room every dinner time, barking from the television as we watch the news. It's about 20 years now that I think that Italy's full of problems, one of the biggest is that the Pope isn't somwhere else.

I'll share this page on my Facebook profile, and I'm going to tanslate it for all the people I know whose English's not good enough to understand them. Unfortunately, I can't do anything for all the people who's rationality isn't good enough to understand.

Anyway, thank you for saying something that should be clear in every mind, but that an awful lot of paople can't think alone.
Re: Religion is people opium - where did I hear this?
[info]rog123 wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:24 am (UTC)
Oscar Wilde as far as I can recall is credited with calling ''RELGION IS THE OPIUM OF THE MASSES''
Re: Religion is people opium - where did I hear this? - [info]lupo_max - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:30 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Religion is people opium - where did I hear this? - [info]andrea_2 - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:32 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Religion is people opium - where did I hear this? - [info]yudishtera - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 10:08 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Religion is people opium - where did I hear this? - [info]andrea_2 - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 01:25 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Religion is people opium - where did I hear this? - [info]karachi747 - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 10:21 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Religion is people opium - where did I hear this? - [info]elliemeg1 - Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 10:34 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Religion is people opium - where did I hear this? - [info]jogibbs - Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 09:35 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Religion is people opium - where did I hear this? - [info]sternbyname - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 10:12 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Religion is people opium - where did I hear this? - [info]rhh1 - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 11:11 am (UTC) Expand
fake "respect"
[info]doug_piranha wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:13 am (UTC)
BANG ON THE BUTTON.

I have railed against ths fake respect, demanded and commanded by religious people all my life.
This is not new - the "Christian " religions have done this since..well...Jesus was born !
This "respect" and virtual slavery to ludicrous religious notions has led to the slaughter and misery of millions.Often due to policieis dictated, or at least influenced by, religious leaders.

I recall the worst moment on Brtish TV was the sneering attack by some bishop (name long forgotten !! ) in a purple dress and with a cross round his neck that a haevy metal band would love - along with that sh*t Malcolm Muggeridge ( I chose the word very carefully) - on the film
The Life of Brian.

The very idea that a comdey film should go on "trial" like that is insane.
By what right do people like that command the rest of us to abide by their rules.?

Believe what you like - that is the respect you get.
Agree with everhhting you believe ? not a chnace
Do what YOUR religion demands ? Never - and you have not right to enforce that.

Why - for many years - was I prohibited from buying gorceries on a Sunday ?
Not the worst religious crime ever - but indicative that the religious brigade can
dictate what the rest of society can and cannot do - and its banality seems shocking to me.
It pales into insignificance compared to the crimes aginst people committed - but it shows
that society simply accepts as "normal" that the organsied religions ought to have a say in
our daily life - in schools - in the law - etc etc etc

Private Eye summed the recent cartoon hysteria very well.
" A cartoonist has suggested Muslims are linked with violence ? Let's KILL him !!!"

Of course not all Muslims are violent - but if you apologise for the religious terrorists
- you are part of the problem and give encouragemnt to religious lunatics.
Fine words but - -
[info]rogoz2 wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:18 am (UTC)
All fine words but the only event the Church truly understands is an action for damages in the Courts. Many millions of dollars makes a compelling argument as the US has shown. Without that, none of these problems would have ever come out. Note like dominos the way countries are getting the trick.
Re: Fine words but - -
[info]valleyofthebees wrote:
Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 07:33 am (UTC)
What would really make them take notice is putting all the people involved in the cover-up in jail. This would also be the morally fair and just thing to do.
Everyone should read this
[info]jokiduck wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:27 am (UTC)
It never fails to amaze me that religious fairy tales should have such a grip on humanity in the 21st Century.

This pieces sheds light on yet more of the hideous consequences. Great work!
DELIVER US FROM EVIL
[info]r0gue_male wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:29 am (UTC)
IF YOU WANT A CLEARER IDEA OF WHAT THE PRIESTS GOT UP TO AND WHY AND JUST HOW WIDESPREAD THE PROBLEM IS WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY - 'DELIVER US FROM EVIL' - IT IS VERY WELL MADE, BUT MY IT IS SO UPSETTING IT WILL MAKE YOU CRY BUT IT WILL ALSO MAKE YOUR BLOOD BOIL.
You don't "choose" religion,
[info]iankemmish wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:30 am (UTC)
religion chooses you. We all of us carry an instinctive reflex to submit to authority - Milgram's experiment is once again in the news this week! - and Abrahamic religions are just one of the mechanisms society uses to harness this instinct. But you can't excise the instinct (although in some of us it is weaker than in others), or change the moral frameworks built upon it.

Mr Hari appears to be a thoughtful person, yet the article suggests that he has never read Jonathan Haidt's ideas on why different people have such varied, incompatible, and most importantly immutable ideas of what is or is not moral.

He should.
Re: You don't "choose" religion,
[info]sidsnat wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:43 am (UTC)
"We all of us carry an instinctive reflex to submit to authority" What a sad "sheepie" you must be.
Re: You don't "choose" religion, - [info]ourmaninberlin - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 10:19 am (UTC) Expand
Re: You don't "choose" religion, - [info]pete_kropotkin - Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 05:26 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: You don't "choose" religion, - [info]corporeal4noww - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 04:32 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: You don't "choose" religion, - [info]pontanus - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 10:20 pm (UTC) Expand
Money talks
[info]alexweir1949 wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:37 am (UTC)
The catholic church is a very rich organisation. The rich in our global society can get away with pretty much everything. Often with the help of the media. Alex weir. Harare
Re: Money talks
[info]snotcricket wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:11 am (UTC)
Hi Alex

We here very little about the situation where you are.

Can you enlighten us or is that difficult?
Re: Money talks - [info]alexweir1949 - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 10:01 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Money talks - [info]andrea_2 - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:43 am (UTC) Expand
and you decided to include Buddhism because...?
[info]natsagdorj wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:41 am (UTC)
In your article you state: "Nobody says I should "respect" conservatism or communism and keep my opposition to them to myself – but that's exactly what is routinely said about Islam or Christianity or Buddhism". I disagree with this as a Buddhist (so obviously being slightly biased) as unlike the Abrahamic faiths Buddhism does not rely on Belief but on empirical evidence.

The Buddha said - "Do not accept anything by mere tradition ... Do not accept anything just because it accords with your scriptures ... Do not accept anything merely because it agrees with your pre-conceived notions ... But when you know for yourselves – these things are moral, these things are blameless, these things are praised by the wise, these things, when performed and undertaken, conduce to well-being and happiness – then do you live acting accordingly"

You cannot insult my faith as I don't have any! Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. If you don't wish to respect Buddhism - that's fine I'm not asking you to. It does not have any impact on my life at all.
Buddhism and Judaism
[info]gabsinnepal wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 11:08 am (UTC)
While I accept your quotation from the Buddha, sadly I have to point to events in Sri Lanka and the Buddhist monks' attacks on Hindu temples and Sinhalese Buddhist pogroms against Hindu Tamils.

Yes these may be in "retaliation" for LTTE attacks (for example on The Temple of the Tooth), but I fail to see how retaliating against innocent shopkeepers etc on the basis of them sharing the same religion as the LTTE is a fair "moral....blameless...praised by the wise....conducive to well-being" action in response.

Anyway, I digress...excellent article Johann, but I note the absence of any mention of another current story in the news: The expansion of Jewish settlements in Occupied Territories and the religious "justifications" of Zionism for that.
Re: and you decided to include Buddhism because...? - [info]natsagdorj - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 01:43 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Buddhism and Judaism - [info]n0j0 - Monday, 22 March 2010 at 09:41 am (UTC) Expand
Re: Buddhism and Judaism - [info]n0j0 - Monday, 22 March 2010 at 10:03 am (UTC) Expand
Re: and you decided to include Buddhism because...? - [info]drooosh - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 01:54 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: and you decided to include Buddhism because...? - [info]kiwi_expat - Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 07:27 am (UTC) Expand
WHERE'S YOUR COURAGE HARI?
[info]sidsnat wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:42 am (UTC)
If you mean what you say where is the TURBAN BOMB picture? Why the praying hands picture?
As usual Hari you are all talk. No thinking person goes along with the nonsense of religion.
Re: WHERE'S YOUR COURAGE HARI?
[info]jannerfish wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 12:05 pm (UTC)
A ridiculous criticism.

Hari says that some of the cartoons he finds stupid. Maybe the turban bomb was one of them. And even if he liked that image, the article isn't about reproducing them. It's about the right to create them. They are easily found online.
Re: WHERE'S YOUR COURAGE HARI? - [info]sidsnat - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 12:20 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: WHERE'S YOUR COURAGE HARI? - [info]72trailsofsmoke - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 03:56 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: WHERE'S YOUR COURAGE HARI? - [info]boeticia - Monday, 22 March 2010 at 10:08 pm (UTC) Expand
Bigotry! Not just for the religious
[info]snotcricket wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:07 am (UTC)
People have every right to challenge, question, mock/ridicule a religion/tenet, however some assume this a right to ridicule the individuals faith.

The two are entirely separate, if the religion cannot stand up to criticism & ridicule then it has no basis.

But peoples individual faith is their business/life & their personal lifestyle should be respected but they are often as ridiculed as that in which they believe.

I suspect people with 'faith' are no different to sexuality ie its a personal physical/mental situation that is basically inherent & has bugger all to do with anyone else.

Conversely those with faith who either preach or speak of tolerance need to ask themselves why that tolerance is not always extended to sexuality or gender.

Its a difficult subject because it is basically abstract thus open to any form of debate/humour, the problem is thsoe who criticise are often worse in their overview than the fundamentalist & just like the zealot cannot see their own failings>

But then that's probably true of all of us?
Re: Bigotry! Not just for the religious
[info]richardcarter wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 02:53 pm (UTC)
snotcricket says "peoples individual faith is their business/life & their personal lifestyle should be respected" - oh yes, even when that refers to, for example, extremist Muslims stopping education for girls or extremist Jews grabbing Palestinians' land because "god" gave it to them 5,000 years ago, or extremist Christians assassinate doctors who carry out abortions?

You've fallen into the dread mistake of confusing peoples' right to believe any nonsense with acceptance of or respect for such nonsense.
Re: Bigotry! Not just for the religious - [info]snotcricket - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 10:06 pm (UTC) Expand
Where are the pics?
[info]littlefluff wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:07 am (UTC)
I don't remember, did The Indy have the strength of its liberal convictions and publish the pics at the time?

If not, why not?

Print the pics again and The Indy will have my full support.
Re: Where are the pics?
[info]human_writes_8 wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 04:43 pm (UTC)
So do you also defend the right of people to protest against the troops and their home coming parades? Also to hold up signs calling them baby killers?
Re: Where are the pics? - [info]tfasd - Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 12:29 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: Where are the pics? - [info]windymoose - Monday, 22 March 2010 at 09:58 am (UTC) Expand
The Independent
[info]larkspur_14 wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:08 am (UTC)
has as a leading columnist a man who justified torture, including the torture of children. No religious grounds were voiced, just self interest. Speaking as Jack Bauer, he believed torture works. Meanwhile he was defended by the editor, on the fragile grounds that (a) he wasn't saying what he was saying and (b) freedom of speech. Since I am not a freedom of speech extremist, and so saw the offending cartoons as nasty racist grenades lobbed at a vulnerable minority, which could not be taken back once they had exploded, I was not impressed. Liberals also make demands for respect for fundamentalist ideologies, which are just as undeserving.
Some disagreement
[info]domcogan wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:11 am (UTC)
I agree that faith has nothing to do with punishment for secular crimes. Murders, rapes, death threats and all the rest should be punishable by long prison sentences whether the perpetrator is religious or not. But it simply doesn't follow that faith is pointless, or that it's a "fairy-tale" substitute for science. At the end of the day science and rationalism are themselves based on assumptions that can either be taken on trust or not. They therefore fail to provide convincing answers to some of our deepest questions. Perhaps faith in God is the wrong response to this, and many religious views are clearly preposterous. But you cannot blame people for searching.
Re: Some disagreement
[info]sickofstupidity wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 01:55 pm (UTC)
"But it simply doesn't follow that faith is pointless, or that it's a "fairy-tale" substitute for science."

Yes, it does, on both counts.

"At the end of the day science and rationalism are themselves based on assumptions that can either be taken on trust or not."

But the assumptions of science are REASONABLE, and based on LOGIC and EVIDENCE. The assumptions behind religion are not.

And the nature of science is that its assumptions are always being tested, and revised or thrown out when new knowoledge comes to light. The nature of religion is that its fundamental assumptions are NEVER questioned, NEVER tested, NEVER revised and NEVER thrown out, because they are IRRATIONAL DOGMATIC BELIEFS that, in the words of Sam Harris, 'float entirely free of reason and evidence'.

Those are some pretty fundamental differences between relgion and science, and only a naive cultural relativist cannot see the distinction between the two.
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Re: Some disagreement - [info]xavierselph - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 08:53 pm (UTC) Expand
It's yer amygdala - that's where yer problem is, mate
[info]indigodavei wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:11 am (UTC)
This has little to do with religion; religion is just one arena in which the same phenomenon is exhibited. It's partly to do with binary or dualistic thinking (something which has been bequeathed to a good deal of religion, though not all); it's to do with in-groups and out-groups. Unfortunately, it's a general human tendency to which we are all vulnerable. The problem is, we are emotional beings as well as rational ones. Also, it is an unfortunate fact that we all come equiped with an amygdala, and that makes you think in black and white.
[info]indigodavei wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:18 am (UTC)
My above comments do not change the fact that Johann Hari is quite correct in saying 'Tell it to the judge.'
[info]johnny54321 wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:15 am (UTC)
Excellent article, very well put.
''The opium of the masses.''
[info]rog123 wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:20 am (UTC)
The fact that there has been such a cover up by the Catholic church over this matter is no surprise. They (The Catholic church) are also resonsible for helping the Nazis in WW2 in their efforts to exterminate the jews,etc. The pope used to be a member of the Hitler youth, and his WW2 pre-decessor used to bless the pilots and planes that bombed those who resited Mussolini and Hitler. Murder,rape,subjugation are all part and pacel of religion. If you read most forms of religious texts they all spout how great their figure heads/Gods are and yet the same beings also advocate death and destruction for thoses who fail to comply with their will. Religion is and always has been a tool for otherwise useless people to have power over others. It only exists because of mans fear of death. The reality of life is ''man created god'' a very long time ago in an attempt to explain the world he was trying to survive in. The problem since then is people have had to try to survive religion. Man also cerated laws and no one,beliver or non-beliver shuold be above them!
So can we see the cartoons?
[info]snowdog88 wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:22 am (UTC)
So can we see the cartoons?
Re: So can we see the cartoons?
[info]had_it wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 11:13 am (UTC)
No.
You seem to remember "publish without fear or favour."
No more. Terror works - especially on the press.
Re: So can we see the cartoons? - [info]lima_charlie - Friday, 19 March 2010 at 12:25 pm (UTC) Expand
Bravo!
[info]unsocialist wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:23 am (UTC)
The best bit of journalism I have read for many a day!
This type of clear unambiguous unapologetic writing on sensitive subjects is exactly what is needed in other spheres of our public life. Too often journalists seem to be either in thrall or in fear - Hari is neither.
Take a bow!
AJH
The best article I've read this month!
[info]snowdog88 wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:29 am (UTC)
This is an excellent article and it should be widely syndicated. Too few newspapers are afraid to speak out.
Submission to Authority
[info]chiennoir wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:36 am (UTC)
"We all of us carry an instinctive reflex to submit to authority" No, the instinctive reflex is to say "up yours!" to authority, but this has been smothered by people in whose interest it is for us submit to authority. We see the consequences here in connectiion with the Catholic Church - a huge hierarchical organisation which expects submission to its authority. Think of the way this demand for submission must have worked on the minds of children under priestly authority. It's sickening. The sooner we get back our healthy instinctive disrespect for authority the sooner we'll end these hideous practices.
The Hypocrisy
[info]cuanbeachkid wrote:
Friday, 19 March 2010 at 09:36 am (UTC)
This article represents what a vast proportion of the public are thinking at present, including myself. I actually broke up with my most recent girlfriend, partly because her family are devout Catholics and they refuse to acknowledge/believe the truth about the 'Church'. I could not and will not be forced to get married within this institution or raise my kids with any connections to these type of institutions. People should have more self-respect in this day and age, thats what it boils down to, Hitler tried to do in 20 years, what Christianity has taken 2000 to do,hopefully they both will have the same conclusion.

Disenchanted.
Ireland.
Re: The Hypocrisy
[info]fidesetratio1 wrote:
Monday, 22 March 2010 at 07:26 pm (UTC)
I would advise people to beware of the anti-religious poison being propagated by this and other authors. For sure the abuse scandals and the way they were covered up were a tragedy, but the anti-catholic baiters and their sheepish cheerleaders of the culture of death who now form the ascendancy in society have manipulated this tragedy into an opportunity to beat the church. Instead of love and harmony they spread lies and discord.
And religion is not blind faith Johann! At least not Catholic religion. Fedeism which leads to superstition is considered just as much a heresy as the rational only approach which leads to nihilism. The late Pope John Paul II issued an enciclical about this, although the heathens here prefer thier own characture of the pope. But theu wont escape the ineviatblilty of the victory of Christ and his church. Never!
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