UK: Armed forces 'want more Muslims'

From the BBC, with thanks to Nobody and RB:

The chief of the UK's armed forces has appealed for more Muslim recruits in a bid to better reflect modern Britain.

Chief of Defence Staff General Sir Michael Walker promised "fulfilling
careers and high-quality training" for recruits in a speech to Muslim
leaders.

He told the Muslim Council of Britain in London that he wanted the armed forces to reflect "religious, cultural and ethnic diversity".

Currently only 300 members of Britain's armed forces are registered
Muslims....

"The Muslim Council of Britain has made a real and lasting contribution to the creation of a just and tolerant society," he said.

The general's appearance at the MCB meeting was part of the Ministry of Defence's attempts to show they were serious about recruiting more Muslims....

Iqbal Sacranie of the Muslim Council of Britain sounded a warning note:

"For this to be successful, however, it is imperative that the high reputation of our armed forces is zealously protected and maintained and not allowed to be tainted by any misbehaviour or illegal actions."

Quite so, Iqbal.

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The enemy within - part two... hard to imagine that I wanted to live in this country until a few years ago.

And this was once the proud army which (together with our American, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand etc friends) defeated Hitler in WWII - unbelievable!

This is like wanting more Nazis to enlist in the British Army in 1938. The world has gone truly mad.

The Muslim Council of Britain has made a real and lasting contribution to the creation of a just and tolerant society," he said.

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Subjective reality is universal.

This is a doomed project,I've seen how the Police and Firefighting services were pressured
by the Politicians to meet "Targets" for hiring
to reflect the social make-up of the City or Country.

I remember when Asians attacked anyone that implied they were shorter than NorthAmerican men,but these same groups screamed "Racism"
when the Police standards for height was 5'9"
and was there to stop Asians from becoming Police Officers.
Females demanded separate fitness tests and strength tests because they complained to the Human rights board that they were geared to
protect the "Men-only" emergency services.
This has lead to lower standards and even the annual Firefighters Games have lower standards for females Fighters,the events that have men
finishing in about 2 minutes has females doing it in about 3 minutes. This 50 percent less expectation standard harms the Public,you can't force people to do jobs they don't care for and
lowering the requirements only re-enforces the
stereotype that some minorities can't perform at the normal levels in society.

The U.K. better read the article of the Muslim soldier in Iraq that tossed a grenade in a tent of sleeping fellow soldiers,he insisted it was his job to kill Americans and destroy the Western culture.


Let Muslims prove their loyalty and then hire them,until that day we should stick to people of Faiths that don't demand the followers to kill for their god.

This smacks of prejudicial suicide!

I can even try to understand the UK's desire to reflect balance by recruiting a variety of ethnicities.

Yet, to exclusively seek out muslim candidates while at war against militant islam is nothing short of suicide.

Where do UK military recruiters set up recruitment tables?
Finsbury Square? University MSA meetings?

Is a sarcasm tag necessary?

There are several possible interpretations of this remark.

One is that the British military, like many other parts of the government, is misinformed about the theory and practice of Islam. Until there is some effort to understand the tenets of Islam, the deep inculcated hostility to Infidels that is not tangential but central to Islam, and the doctrine of religiously-sanctioned lying about Islam, its general contents, and what an individual Believer may claim to believe, then the menace of Islam will not be understood.

A second interpretation is that this is simply being done by way of feigning ignorance, and a way to placate, publicly, Muslims. But by encouraging the broader public to continue in the belief that Isam itself, as a doctrine, is not worrisome, and that only a few,or some, Believers are the problem, then Infidels will continue to be kept in the dark or semi-dark. Until the nature and scope of the menace is understood, and there are so many reasons why i is difficult to make it understood, or believed, sensible measures cannot be taken for the present and future protection of non-Muslims, including measures that will constraint the use of certain kinds of weapons -- including those of Da'wa and demography.

A third interpretation is that this general is a complete fool, and does not understand the security threat that Muslims in the army could pose -- not least if they rose in the ranks and managed to get their hands on certain kinds of weaponry. Query: would this generall object to Muslim pilots in the Royal Air Force? Would he object to their being trained to fly the most advanced aircraft, or indeed to fly them, perhaps armed with missiles, or worse? If he would object, if in other words he agreed that there should be some limits, then one can argue about where those limits should be. But if he sees nothing to be worried about as long as someone swears up and down that he is both a "good Muslim" and "loyal to Great Britain" -- then we who are supposed to be protected, have something to worry about.

This ignorance, or if not ignorance than ineffective and dangerous, because misleading, naive Realpolitik, cannot continue.

Just 300 out of a population of over a million Muslims in the UK? It just goes to show that no Muslim can ever feel patriotic towards Britain (or America - or France - or Holland - or Russia - or Australia - ... fill the rest in yourself).

(Guardian, June 2002)

Inawazish and Aqib Shah are 10 years old. Both were born here, both speak English and Punjabi, both want to be cricketers, playing on the street, as children still do in Lahore and once did in London, as often as they can. Both are Muslims. Their favourite players? Shoaib Akhtar, Wasim Akram, Shahid Afridi.

Their favourite team? Pakistan. Why? "Because it's our country, innit."

Imtiaz Ahmed and Tufail Hussain play for Gujarat cricket club in the Blackburn Amateur league. The league used to be predominantly white but is now almost exclusively Asian and is therefore representative of cricket in Lancashire which is heavily segregated. They are a generation older than the Shahs, in their early 30s, and their allegiance more thought through.

"I can relate to Rashid Latif or Waqar Younis," says Ahmed. "I can't relate to Andy Caddick or even to an extent Nasser Hussain who, though he might be a Muslim by name, lives an English life and doesn't understand our cultural values.

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These people are trash. They use, abuse and hate England - they are delinquent malefactors, villainous parasites with no business in that ancient land.

What is the face of Britain's future? An alien Muslim face, sneering at everything British? With their cohorts of PC morons justifying their poisonous negative attitudes?

"So farewell hope, and with hope farewell fear. Farewell remorse: all good to me is lost; Evil be thou my good."

Paradise Lost (John Milton)

Yes, I heard that the army was actually visiting mosques to recruit.

At least now would-be terrorists don't need to go to Afghanistan for weapons training anymore.

Yes, recruiting Muslims for the armed forces that protect the country from its enemies is one way of showing them (Muslims or our enemies, take your pick) that we regard all beliefs, even if one has world domination as their agenda, as equal.

Rome, at the time of its empire, recruited enemy barbarians into the ranks of the forces supposed to fight for and defend Rome. The Visigoths were appeased in this fashion. How did this strategy work out? Not too well for Rome, although for the barbarians it offered easy access to the treasures of Rome. Offering barbarians full citizenship, enlisting them in the armed forces, hoping that they will become good Romans (or Brits, or Americans, take your pick again) resulted after much plunder, rape, and eating up the host (Rome) from the entrails out in something called "The Holy Roman Empire," which as the old saw goes was neither holy nor Roman nor an empire.

The Romans were engulfed by their immigrant populations and disappeared as a recognizable people, nation, or entity. Not that I mourn for the eastern Roman empire and the disappearance of the glory that was Rome. I am not an admirer of brutal world conquest and enslavement and/or exorbitant taxation of the conquered for the economic benefit of the victors. (No, don't liken Rome's actions to that of the United States. Compared to Romans, Americans are wimps that build up and pay off those whom they defeat.) The reason for the analogy with Rome is that I would hate to see the UK, the United States, and whatever EU country doesn't buckle under too quickly the new (really old) barbarians go the way of Rome. Generals who either do not know history or are unable to learn lessons from it, are helping destroy the nations they are sworn to defend from external and internal enemies.

Hugh, there is a fourth interpretation. That the British government has been turned. They've sold out to muslims. Probably bought off by Saudi Arabia.

Madness!!!!

I am gonna have to agree with voltair here--scary but the nmost probable explanation. Not just the british so--looks like Us going alone the same lines.

A memo to the UK: Trust us, you DON'T !!

This is utter madness... whatever the demographics of the UK (or any other western european country that faces and increasing Muslim population), the Armed Forces and Police cannot be inflitrated by Muslims. There are some things too vital to be subject to the whims of political correctness.

Voltaire, the British Government sold out to the Saudi/Muslims long, long ago. Its a sad fact that in any prolonged terrorist situation you end up, eventually with a weak, spineless government who cave into the terrorist demands... this is happening in the UK at the moment vis-a-vis Islamic Terrorism.

Why does the UK allow high tech military technology to be exported to Saudi Arabia given the situation there? In 5 years time the Saudi Royals could have been deposed and Saudi Arabia could well be the biggest threat to the West (some might say it is already). Do we really want them to have sophisticated weapons to use against us ?

Military training for muslims,sponsored by taxpayers money....
If they will actually start to enlist,the results will soon start to show,and the UK will pay dearly for its PC blindness.