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Thursday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Career choices in the UK.
  2. Genocides.
  3. No. Charity does not imply a power hierarchy.
  4. Enforced charity however, does incur disgruntlement.
  5. Three more for St. Patrick’s day, here (a defence) and here (some history) and here (Irish jokes).
  6. Eucharist and confession.
  7. Some economic indicators … including “attractive wait staff.”
  8. When you start off by misreading … going from there means straw men are afoot.
  9. HUD for the rest of us.
  10. Russian elections.
  11. Hitler and Pakistan.a
  12. Gooder English.
  13. Fer the kiddies … or not.
  14. Next comes Evagrius, then Cassian … then swim in the Bosphorus? ;)

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Wednesday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. For a site that depends on logical arguments … failing to think logically is a big problem. The statement “slavery was/is not evil because of cruelty” does not depend or imply the statement “cruelty is not evil.” The statement means slavery is evil without cruelty (more accurately does not depend on the evil of cruelty to be evil), but does not imply that cruelty is not also evil.
  2. Oh … Hell
  3. Comparisons of comfort.
  4. Truth to power.
  5. Weather implies climate change? Only when it fits the rhetoric I guess.
  6. What if? Hmmph. That shouldn’t be a question. It isn’t.
  7. Ride a bike.
  8. Heh. Snort.
  9. Yes they do. I don’t think there should be any question about that, although I don’t think “during a recession” is a necessary qualifier.
  10. I hate those “compelling life story” rhetorical techniques … so when they backfire … people should notice.
  11. For St. Patrick’s day.
  12. More transparent administration, is measurably much less transparent. Color me unsurprised.

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Constraint and Awareness

In many cultures in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world there is a strikingly different approach to sexuality and the interactions between men and women. These cultures feature an emphasis on honor and shame as well as well as being on the other side of the individual/collective axis from those us in the modern West. If one takes a spectrum of human cultures and measured them by a metric which weighs their emphasis on individual vs group responsibility and sensibility one would find US and Western cultures today leaning toward the side of individuality and the individual whereas these Middle Eastern cultures were would be found at the other end, in which a person does not weigh his own advantage before that of his particular group (in this instance the primary group was the family). There are two reasons why this is important. First is, that many of us find the Bible, a book authored within the context of an honor/shame/collective culture is important. And furthermore the honor/shame/collective culture like the Middle East of the 1st century, comprises 70% of the worlds population today. Most of those of us reading this essay live in the western minority. If you think the liberal/conservative or left/right divide in the US is difficult to cross … it pales before this larger cultural  division.

Features of the culture in which the separation of men and women is predominant are discussed in great detail elsewhere and by others. For the following, I’m going to concentrate on just one aspect of differences between the West and the h/s/c cultures. Most h/s/c cultures typically arranged themselves specifically in ways that tried to make it impossible for men and women to come into contact in a situation where their interpersonal relationship/contact might lead to a social unacceptable sexual relationship. In part a working assumption there is that people in these situations do not have the will power to actually resist such temptation. Now from the point of view the Western outsider there are a plethora of very disadvantageous features to this particular arrangement. For the point being made below … these perceived negative aspects are, at least at first glance, not relevant. What is relevant is the comparison made between our porn drenched Western culture and theirs in that the sight of the hint of anything at all about woman’s figure or form his highly eroticized in their culture where in ours the saturation has desensitised us. And it is this relative sensitivity to the erotic is that which I wish to use as a analogy to compare the high (hierarchical) churches to the low churches in their differing treatment of liturgy and sacrament to the restrained/free sexuality in the other two cultures.

In h/s/c cultures one finds manner, clothing, and interactions between the sexes in society highly constrained. In high liturgical/hierarchical churches one finds the manner, clothing, and interactions in liturgy similarly constrained. The west can be described as jaded and deadened to stimuli in comparison to the h/s/c cultures with respect to sexual imagery and erotically charged situations. Similarly, in prior conversations for example on Evangel, modern American protestants are comparatively blind to the sacred, as what was Holy was defined as something of an internal state of mind not a ontological property which can attached to a place (such as the Bush in Exodus). My point is that a sense of the sacred and a sensitivity to Holiness is heightened by similar practices. One might compare the segregation of the sexes in Middle Eastern cultures to the wall or screen separating between the servers, deacons, and priests and the congregation in the Eastern rites.

Posted in Christianity.


Tuesday Higlights

Good morning.

  1. A fact vs myth for the healthcare debate.
  2. A word from the desert.
  3. Wind farming and climate.
  4. Gay bashing and standards.
  5. Conservative.
  6. Watching the Druze.
  7. Lance Armstrong.
  8. Prayer.
  9. Geting it backwards.
  10. The courts.
  11. Multipliers.
  12. CS Lewis and St. Silouan.
  13. An interview on Eric Rohmer and his films.
  14. Talking about liberty.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Monday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Selection of a sort.
  2. If those stats on age refer to the “brake/accel” issue, the problem is not mechanical.
  3. A view of Mr Obama which makes some sense … but see this in that context.
  4. Chesterton.
  5. Repentance.
  6. The rehabilitation of US Grant … is that it? To keep Mr Reagan off the $50 bill?
  7. Very sweet.
  8. On war.
  9. Hmm.
  10. Smile, your feel good story for the day.
  11. Image, archetype and propaganda … 
  12. Girls.
  13. And some old advice that remains good.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Friday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Let’s start out with a beautiful interior shot of a Romanian church.
  2. Rocking for Africa … or not.
  3. Orthodoxy moving into South America.
  4. Lecture notes in statistics.
  5. If you win the rat race
  6. Mr Massa.
  7. Of bubble and bust.
  8. Hmm.
  9. Rain forest and the once-in-a 100 years drought.
  10. For whom, “killin’s too good for ‘em” applies.
  11. From the fathers, specifically Cassian and Evagrius.
  12. Failed states.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Thursday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Bonhoeffer on technology.
  2. The Democrats getting press, more here.
  3. Undermining public education by the Admin, a feature not a bug?
  4. Candidates and boxes.
  5. Wind bottles and power.
  6. Of metric, model, and stimulus.
  7. Church and culture.
  8. Trust and reputation.
  9. The medieval warm period … and a correlation (which is not causation … but that doesn’t mean it isn’t either).
  10. A long conversation on morals and war.
  11. Freedom of speech and the word ‘nigger’.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Wednesday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Wrecked ships.
  2. The Chicago machine and what it means w.r.t. our current President.
  3. Data and the CBO.
  4. A modest suggestion.
  5. Jokes in the Chavez regime.
  6. Go left.
  7. Laptops in lectures.
  8. On the Toyota recall.
  9. A sign you might be wrong.
  10. Free market and correction.
  11. On Greece.
  12. Google maps and the bike route.
  13. Heh.
  14. On fear and terrorism.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Tuesday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Concerning Mr Trotsky.
  2. Russian/Iran relations.
  3. Mr Krugman and Mr Krugman.
  4. For the crowd that follows Ms Palin.
  5. Armenian genocide again.
  6. Unemployment.
  7. Water damage and books, DIY fix.
  8. Our classy administration … not.
  9. Class and the ladies of the silver screen.
  10. Grenada and their economic outlook.
  11. Biking pic of the day, do you vote (A) or (B) or (C)?
  12. Corruption of blood? Huh? You know when you start out saying ” I admit I have a hard time putting myself in the shoes …” making stuff up doesn’t help.
  13. Could there possibly be collusion between big media and the administration to protect government owned industries?
  14. Climate trends.
  15. Loser letters.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Monday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Hmm, wishful thinking? That is, “that mass killings are remembered by history is a critical factor in deterring or enabling future perpetrators for enacting similar atrocities.” Cite? Evidence? Furthermore evidence that a “house bill” will have anything to do with “how anything is remembered” is to assume an inflated view of the effect of symbolic legislative actions (hint: nobody notices nor cares). More here.
  2. Mr Obama and the left on the show trials.
  3. Grandstanding (and a gymnast years later).
  4. Panic and thought.
  5. Green and profit.
  6. I have “100% consistency” on that morality exam. (YNNN YNYN were my answers for what its worth).
  7. Big box.
  8. To the sun.
  9. Letters evolving.
  10. Heh.
  11. Insincerity and the White House.
  12. On Iran.
  13. Somebody named Mr Chait admits do being amazingly dense.
  14. Min. wage and unemployment.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Friday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. When to read.
  2. A defence of market, in a word, it sucks less.
  3. Theology and the cross.
  4. Casting.
  5. Examining incentives and stimulus.
  6. Speaking of incentives
  7. Immigration fail.
  8. Pay/Go.
  9. Balkanization.
  10. Abortion and stigma.
  11. Tech as art.
  12. Why scare quotes on “skeptics?
  13. Amusing verse for a Friday.
  14. The fundamental truth of political discourse … now for homework apply that to the healthcare debate.
  15. And another fundamental problem with the healthcare bill exposed.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Thursday Highlights

Good morning

  1. Not approving of gifts.
  2. In the land where stones are sacred.
  3. Pressures on police.
  4. German hyperinflation … back in the day.
  5. Rehabilitation.
  6. Mencken applied to healthcare.
  7. Dinging China.
  8. Why Lent.
  9. Mr Obama on reconciliation. Hypocrisy?
  10. Iran and the Administration.
  11. Reconciliation ‘splained.

Posted in Link Roundup.


History and the New Testament

First century Middle Eastern society was very different than today’s Western European & US societies and subcultures. Ideas of self, ethics, and economics differed radically from our notions of these concepts and features in today’s world. These difference in turn affect our hemenuetic as we approach text that is passed down to us from that era as distinct from how it would have been received by the contemporary and those audiences nearer to that period. Nearer here is not restricted to temporal shifts but more a cultural distance. This yields several different hermeneutical choices for the modern scholar approaching matters written back then. One can view the text absent any historical/cultural context, one can take from the text the meaning that would have been received from the contemporary (or near) listeners, or one might take a parallel or analogous meaning to the one the contemporary listener might have derived into a modern context. But consider the last two options one must undertake to understand at salient features of society in the first century Middle East. Continued…

Posted in Christianity.


Wednesday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Climate change, part of the problem with the AGW proponents, is that cold weather is never evidence of climate change, as it gets the response, “climate is not weather.” What’s the problem with that, well, the problem is that every example of warmer weather is in fact used as evidence for climate change.
  2. Not unrelated to the above.
  3. In fact, 25, oops, 15 year trends aren’t, apparently, significant either.
  4. An interesting data point.
  5. Chile, Haiti and the Chicago school.
  6. Of Cuba.
  7. GM vs Toyota and the government response to recall.
  8. If you need another reason why government shouldn’t be involved at all in healthcare.
  9. That defence is an indictment.
  10. Mech art, very cool.
  11. For those who key on Ms Palin.
  12. Tactics and praise. And aside: I played a little ASL when I was younger, enough to realize how very cool it was. I never got very good at it however.

Posted in Link Roundup.


On Healthcare and Honesty

There is currently, as is well known, a debate on health policy. Within this debate it seems to me there is a fundamental misunderstanding between right and left on this matter. I’d like to make as pointed a expression of this misunderstanding in the hopes that those on the left might clarify for my their views on this matter.

The left makes the following claims:

  1. Restructuring healthcare is required because of the millions without any health insurance coverage.
  2. Controlling the rising costs of healthcare is a major concern as well. Therefore the healthcare bill contains measures to contain and regulate pharmaceutical and insurance firm profits as well as doctors compensations. 

These items are problematic especially in the light of the three proposals on the table from the left.

Regarding item 1, a plan which would provide a minimal adequate universal catastrophic health care coverage is neither complicated nor cost prohibitive. It does not require a 2.5k page plan, one more of the nature of 40 pages would suffice, i.e., not much larger than the heath care coverage legal statement/booklets which most of of have for our own plans. This is not by any stretch of imagination the healthcare plan on the table. Therefore it cannot be construed that this issue is in fact a real feature/concern of the plan(s) in question.

As to item number 2, the first and more natural explanation for rising costs is due to a relationship between supply and demand. That is rising costs are symptomatic of rising demand in comparison with a supply. The bill(s) in question instead of consisting of a mechanism for increasing supply and/or attempting to ameliorate expectations or demand is instead more of the nature of a price control and regulatory scheme. In the real world, price controls of commodity items lead to lowered supply and scarcity … not increased production. That is price controls are in reality very good ways to choke off and decrease the supply of a thing. Furthermore the profit margins of insurance companies and “big pharma” are not out of line when compared to comparable industries. Expectations of large cost savings by regulation are not warranted, and this is in addition to the above noted deleterious effects of cost controls.

Putting these two remarks and their objections together alongside the much touted (by the left) reminder that those on the left are so very much smarter than we knuckle-dragging dim-witted conservatives that the left is aware of this disconnect between their policy proposals and the expected effects of their proposal. Thus those clever fellows on the left realising that a universal reasonable catastrophic insurance coverage plan is 40 pages and that cost controls do lead to shortages. 

Now one might propose that the Democratic politicians and pundits are aware that their proposals and justifications for the same have little if anything to do with each other and that instead that they prefer these proposals for very different reasons than those stated. For example, these proposals may ease the passing of any number of other social measures which the increase in social control and power these bills might afford. That, while dishonest at best, is at least understandable after all they see this measure to be one which is to their personal advantage. The problem is the rank and file member of the left. Why do they support a bill which so badly fits the stated aims? This, for me, a mystery.

Posted in Disengenuity, Policy, Short Thoughts.


Tuesday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Living where pictures like this … can be taken.
  2. Columbia and constitution.
  3. Slow news day? Or not.
  4. Setting a situation on its head.
  5. Spending on construction. The stimulus benefits are clearly obvious … well, actually they are not.
  6. A film and the military.
  7. A Welsh saint and national holiday, noted here too.
  8. Mr Boudreaux on swipe fees.
  9. Words.
  10. My youngest would love to do that.
  11. Church or not.
  12. Consider war.
  13. Flying and the airbus … or French practices.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Travel Update

Well, I made it one-eventfully to Dallas. I’ve hand written two posts which will be up very shortly … and a third explaining the “one-eventfully” as well. One post is an honest (on my part) pointed question for the left on healthcare the other on anthropology and economics and their influence on hermenuetic. Anyhow, I’ve also collected links, and they will be up shortly … as I can find time between tasks during the day.

Posted in Admin, Travel.


Monday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. An ode to snow.
  2. Interesting hermeneutic. Heh.
  3. An economics test case.
  4. A book on St. Paul.
  5. For the kids, a much abused theme.
  6. Lent and the American south.
  7. St. John Cassian in East and West.
  8. A complicated Jew.
  9. Fast boot.
  10. On the Lenten fast … and not “getting it.”
  11. Entitlements.
  12. Solar power.
  13. Facebook.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Friday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. A reflection for the day.
  2. Using bad-faith charts to claim bad-faith seems, hypocritical at best.
  3. Knives on the bus … and I certainly hope its “allowed” I wear one of these everywhere I go (except on airplanes).
  4. Talking tea.
  5. Faith and illness.
  6. When he says “sexy”, I don’t think that word means what he seems to think it does. :D
  7. Equality and defaults. A friend of mine asked his daughters if they would prefer having one get 4 cookies and the other 6 or both get 3. They preferred the latter, which makes little sense to me.
  8. Statistics and counterinsurgency.
  9. Drones.
  10. The economy and the last bubble.
  11. Nuclear power and things that block it.
  12. Billion?  Huh?
  13. No-fault divorce.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Satan’s Hermeneutic

Satan. A word which the LXX and translators of the Masoretic Old Testament chose different methods. A translator has two different choices when dealing with a proper name or title. Transliteration or translation … that is make the word sound the same, or literally translate the meaning of the title. The LXX more often than not used the latter method, thus translating for example Philistine (transliterated) as Allophyle (or “Other”) which is a translation. Similarly with Satan, the term “the slanderer” is used instead of the transliterated Satan. My thesis in the following is that there is a hermeneutic, all to common, which is best described as Satan’s (the slanderer’s) hermenuetic and that this in turn is to be set aside where and when ever one notices its use.

What then might be meant by Satan’s (or the slanderer’s) hermeneutic and what is the point of discussing such a thing? The term hermeneutic normally means how we extract meaning from text, but one might expand it to mean (as I do in this case) to mean how we extract meaning from any of a variety of forms of communication, i.e., including not just text but speech as well. Satan’s hermeneutic is then is when we (all too often) take the words of another, usually because of associations external to the topic at hand, and interpret them in the worst way we can find. We take the narrowest (or widest) or most literal (or most figurative) interpretation possible. Whatever way we can find to interpret their words in the most outrageous or most negative way possible is the meaning to which we attach their words.

This hermeneutic is often seen in discussions between parties arrive in a conversation with an implicit or explicit understanding that they have important or strong disagreements. Whether it is for lack of confidence in one’s one position,  a debaters desire to “win points” in an argument and not a seeking just to understand the other’s position, or just a customary discussion style seen in the blogging and debating environments. And I have to say, this is a failing (sin?) of which I participate fully in just as do my interlocutors in discussion threads.

The primary problem, not just that this is a Satanic hermeneutic and should therefore be avoided on principle, is that in my experience it has the opposite effect from the one intended. Time after time in discussions with parties on both sides resorting to this method my observation is that the ultimate effect of this discussion is that one comes away convinced more than before the conversation began of the correctness and mistakes of your and the other points in discussion.  The lesson here is obvious, … don’t do it. Instead of hunting for the most unreasonable interpretation of the others words, seek to find the core of their point and address that.

Posted in Short Thoughts.


Thursday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Waiting lists, that won’t go over very well.
  2. Toyota and the recall … an a stupid thing said at the hearing noted.
  3. Those ideas we live by … or think we do.
  4. The CBO jobs report, remarked upon here and here.
  5. New York or not New York.
  6. Considering the deacon.
  7. A 1600 y/old joke book from Eastern Rome.
  8. Cool, Mr Kuznicki is blogging a the Ordinary Gentlemen … although he’s started with (at least) one error in his post. The most recognisable Levitical verse is “love thy neighbor.” 
  9. Considering the topic of the last post, this post stands in stark disagreement with the last.
  10. Adding to our economic woes … the Administration piles on.
  11. A book on evolution noted, here too.
  12. Greece.
  13. A short tale about equality and freedom.
  14. On conflict of interest.
  15. That nearby star.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Wednesday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Slavery, it seems to me one problem is that slaves historically did not always vacate all of their rights, e.g., in the Roman era slaves still had some legal protections.
  2. Government intrusion in healhtcare and innovation. More here.
  3. A lie from the left, noted.
  4. Seven? Uhm, eight! Let’s get back to eight. :D
  5. Expiration dates.
  6. Social security.
  7. Communism sucks, would be the answer.
  8. Online resources for the Christian (for Lent?).
  9. Schooling and cost.
  10. Highlighting liberal hypocrisy.
  11. Government largesse.
  12. A book noted.
  13. Taxes, two posts … here and here.
  14. FDA and a theory of power.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Same Sex Marriage: A Question

I’d like to pose a question to any out there who might support SSM. Allow me a moment to set the question up with some numbers.

The percentage of the population, based on a John Fund essay some years ago which I’m not going to dig up for y’all, offered that if finds that upwards 6% of the population are gay then in Canada, where SSM was legalized, then it was observed that about 6% of that gay population was availing itself of the opportunity to get married. This means that the SSM question affects just under .4% of the population. Conversely 94% of the population is not gay, and a considerably higher proportion of that population does get married. Within that larger set, a certain number of the marriages are “weak”, that is have significant difficulties in staying hitched. Today’s high divorce rate is a symptom of that fact.

Marriage itself is a institution and a practice which involves many things, including the relational aspect between the two individuals, the community, and immediate and extended family (that is kids). The arguments for SSM stress the first as being the primary aspect, i.e., that marriage is primarily a bond between two people in a loving and nurturing relationship. This argument consequentially reduces the emphasis on the other aspects of marriage. For the “weak” marriages above that in turn improves the chance of those marriages breaking up, because if marriage is “about” relationship and the relationship is sour or lost, then there is no point in continuing.

So here’s my question: If SSM were enacted, say federally, it seems quite plausible that the number of SSM marriage partners is roughly commensurate with increase in the number of children from broken families due to a new emphasis on the partner aspect of marriage. So, for argument, grant that these numbers are about the same, that is the number of people in new gay marriages is equal to the number of children abandoned to state care. If that were the case, would legalizing SSM still be the right thing to do?

Posted in Policy, Short Thoughts, stupid questions.


Tuesday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Another reason to fast … or to help you keep to the narrow path. More words on fasting here.
  2. ACORN examined.
  3. Jobs and government stimulus … 1000 word version.
  4. Global warming and calling out stupid.
  5. Mr Moore.
  6. Laptop cameras and the school surveillance, an story which is getting “odder.”
  7. Blogging and fame.
  8. The mantra on Ms Palin examined.
  9. A movie, the Last Station, of the life of Lev Tolstoy reviewed.
  10. Who notices?
  11. Another non-barking dog.
  12. The arts, architecture and the modern evangelical.

Posted in Link Roundup.


Job and Christian Theodicy

Frank Turk at Evangel is doing a short series on theodicy. I asked him how/when he would connect his discussion with Job and got the following response.

Job is where everyone goes. I think the Scripture pretty much screams out from about every third page an answer which we don’t need Job to tell us.

For the record, I think Jesus and the Gospel do a better job of making sense of suffering from a top-down standpoint than we get from Job.

Job makes good use of Job’s place in creation, but in Job, God says to Job, “dude: if you think you can do a better job, I’ll ask your advice when you can answer my questions.” I think the rest of the Bible says something a little more revelatory and Christ-centered.

I think this is partially mistaken, and because Mr Turk offered that he enjoys a little disagreement and discussion, what follows will be a few points on which I disagree with his remark.

The reason we go to Job (and should go to Job) for questions of theodicy is that Job isolates the question. Job stages one question and isolates that from historical accounts. Additionally the common assumption shared by the four interlocutors in Job share a common assumption of the sovereignty of God over earthly affairs. That is to say God’s assent is required for things to occur in the world, which means that suffering and evil in the world requires an accounting with God for those same things.

The Orthodox cycle of readings places three readings of Job in Holy week, those who set up the cycle clearly felt that Job (and therefore theodicy) were relevant and Christ-centered. Now one of these reasons for thinking so is that Job was seen as a type of Christ but I feel that on reflection there are other (possibly more important) reasons for doing so, which will the main point of the following.

In the Gospels, Jesus frequently confounds expectations. One of the way he does this is by inverting the natural moral algebra. The natural moral algebra is where we expect the good to be rewarded with good and evil with evil. The publican and the pharisee is one example. One would expect that the pharisee, a leader of the community would be the one found righteous, but that is not the case. The point is that we find story after story were our expectation of who should be rewarded and how they should be rewarded are confounded. This is a feature shared with Job. The expectation of his interlocutors is that Job must not be a righteous man because of his misfortune.

In much of the Old Testament in the prophets and Kings the natural moral algebra is held. For example David being punished by God for stealing Bathsheba from her husband and Israel and Judah being punished by being conquered and exiled for failing to hold to the faith of their fathers as is repeated told by the minor and major books of the prophets. In the book of Job, as with the Gospels, this natural algebra is broken. Job is in fact righteous and nevertheless God allows Satan to, well, fall on him. 

From Job 42:17 (page 30/696):

And it is written that he will rise again with those the Lord raises up.

A statement which seems quite consonant with the Gospel.

Mr Turk offers a curt dismissal of the relevance of the final lesson of Job. I find this odd, in a person who derides theological liberals for picking and choosing their Scriptural lessons decides in much the same manner to decide that this is the final lesson of the book of Job. And this is a sticking point. Job is a book explicitly about theodicy, if you aren’t going to be a theological liberal who is going to pick and choose those particular passages and books which one finds pleasing to your sensibilities, then there is a problem. The non-theological liberal (Christian) needs still to demonstrate who logically their theodicy is in tune and consonant with the theodicy argument contained in Job, for the argument of Job is in fact consonant with the message of the Gospels and is exposing directly the question at hand, which was the reason for my question in the first place.

Posted in Christian Philosophy, Christianity.