Note the lengths to which the Turks have gone to cover up this genocide. The slightest mention of it anywhere will irk the Turk. Well, come and get me, Recep. The whitewashing of what was done to the Armenians and Greeks is just one element of the larger and time-honored Islamic project of whitewashing history in general, which has been so successful that innumerable canards are now accepted as fact by people who have no particular axe to grind or interest in the subject, but are just repeating what they were taught: the Egyptians welcomed the Muslim Arab invaders, so odious was Byzantium's yoke! The Crusades were acts of unprovoked aggression and slaughter of non-Christians! The Islamic empires were paragons of religious tolerance! There was no genocide of Armenians and Greeks!
From the Assyrian News Agency, with thanks to Nicolei:
The Turkish state's elimination of its Armenian, Greek and Assyrian populations was part and parcel of the same effort to obliterate Turkey's Christian minorities. All were perpetrated during the same time frame, by the same governments, and using the same methods - namely, massacres, labor camps and death marches under the guise of deportations.New York State's governor George Pataki and the Armenian National Committee have recently added their voices to a growing community of individuals and organizations of conscience that have recognized the genocide of Asia Minor's Greeks by the modern Turkish state.
Now Greece, which has wrestled with its own turbulent history to evolve into a champion of democratic ideals, human rights and the rule of law, is poised to betray these very principles by denying the historical reality of a genocide that was perpetrated against its own people....
As noted by Professor Peter Balakian, prominent U.S. scholar and author of "Black Dog of Fate", the driving force behind the renewed awareness of Turkey's Greek holocaust transcends nationality and ideology: "this is not about ethnic conflict, Greek vs. Turk or Armenian vs. Turk, this is about universal moral issues and universal human rights issues . . . Clearly, denying genocide paves the way for future genocide, for it suggests to the world that governments can commit mass murder with impunity."
This chilling postulate was already put into practice just twenty years after Turkey's eradication of its Christian minorities. Eight days before unleashing his exterminationist campaign in Europe, on August 22, 1939 Hitler defended his orders "to kill without pity or mercy all men, women and children" by declaring "who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"...
Hebrew University professor Stanley Cohen's statement regarding the Turkish government's aggressive campaign of denial vis-a-vis the Armenian Genocide applies equally to its denial of the genocide of Asia Minor's Greeks:
"The nearest successful example [of 'collective denial'] in the modern era is the 80 years of official denial by successive Turkish governments of the 1915-17 genocide against the Armenians in which some 1.5 million people lost their lives. This denial has been sustained by deliberate propaganda, lying and coverups, forging documents, suppression of archives, and bribing scholars. The West, especially the United States, has colluded by not referring to the massacres in the United Nations, ignoring memorial ceremonies, and surrendering to Turkish pressure in NATO and other strategic arenas of cooperation" (Law and Social Inquiry, Winter 1995).
According to a groundbreaking expose by The Chronicle of Higher Education, Microsoft's electronic encyclopedia "Encarta" pressured contributing scholars Helen Fein, Executive Director of The Institute for The Study of Genocide, and Ronald Suny, a political scientist at the University of Chicago and the University of Michigan, to incorporate strategies of denial when referring to the Armenian Genocide because "the Turkish government had threatened to arrest local Microsoft officials and ban Microsoft products". Any familiarity with Turkey's record on free speech would demonstrate that these were not idle threats.
A Turkish writer for Encyclopedia Britannica was imprisoned for using the word "Armenia" in a map of ancient Anatolia.
Last year, Turkey imprisoned Assyrian priest Yusuf Akbulut for "telling reporters that his Christian minority had been the victim of genocide" (The New York Times, 12/12/00).
Ankara's Public Prosecutor's Office is now seeking a six-year prison term for Turkish human rights activist Akin Birdal for saying "everybody knows what was done to the Armenians" during a panel discussion in Germany. In 1998, Birdal survived multiple gunshot wounds to the chest and legs by two extremists linked to the Turkish military.
In October, Turkey successfully blackmailed the U.S. House of Representatives to withdraw a majority-supported resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide by threatening economic, military and diplomatic sanctions.
Incredibly, in a not-so-veiled threat Ankara warned that Americans in Turkey would be in danger should the resolution pass, prompting Representative Frank Pallone (D-NJ) to remark "what kind of ally threatens American lives if it doesn't get its way? With friends like that, who needs enemies."...
Quite.
"With friends like that, who needs enemies."...
Muslim friends? Do we need Muslim friends?
I wonder...
The moslems are friends to each other and no one else.
And we infidels should be friends to each other.
I am not Jewish but as a matter of principle I drink at least one (more often than not more) bottle of Israeli wine a week.
And I beleive every one should.
please visit this link and e mail it to every one you know.
Israel export directory
http://www.jewishpinellas.org/content_display.html?ArticleID=120518
After all they are the second largest suppliers of weapons systems to India
In October, Turkey successfully blackmailed the U.S. House of Representatives to withdraw a majority-supported resolution ecognizing the Armenian Genocide by threatening economic, military and diplomatic sanctions.
Buncha Dhimmis? I wonder why they withdrew a "majority-supported resolution"...it seems to me that it must not have had, um, "majority support".
Ved-d-d-d-d-d-d-dy interesting.....
In October, Turkey successfully blackmailed the U.S. House of Representatives to withdraw a majority-supported resolution ecognizing the Armenian Genocide by threatening economic, military and diplomatic sanctions.
Buncha Dhimmis? I wonder why they withdrew a "majority-supported resolution"...it seems to me that it must not have had, um, "majority support".
Ved-d-d-d-d-d-d-dy interesting.....
I could give a damn how secular and modern the Mustafa Kemal Ataturk regime is claimed to be
The Turks engaged in a mass murder and expulsion of Armenians and Greeks in the early 1900s. I define such an anti Christian war as Jihad. Same as Muhammad's fatal Jihads.
Where is wily Odysseus, where is fleet-footed Achilles, where is grey-eyed Athena, when you need them?
majority-supported resolution...
Anyone~ I've been attempting to find a listing for this vote. 'Majority' more than likely means a majority of the House, not the majority party as some would like to believe.
Can anyone point me to the correct site, so we can see a listing of who voted it down?
Apostate:
Depending on the sect, or degree of religious adherence within a sect, Muslims aren't even all that friendly with each other.
From : http://turkeyhumanrights.fw.bz/ArmBlackmail.htm
House Committee on International Relations
H. RES. 398, THE UNITED STATES TRAINING
ON AND COMMEMORATION OF THE ARMENIAN
GENOCIDE RESOLUTION
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?IPaddress=wais.access.gpo.gov&dbname=106_house_hearings&docid=f:69533.pdf
http://www.senate.gov/
So, as usual, the phenomenon of economic sanction is raised whenever the truth is. It`s a sad state of affairs that the US can`t pull its collective thumb out because someone threatens corporate interests. `Give us your tired, your hungry, your huddled masses...unless they`re Armenians, in which case send them right back to the slaughter.` I`m going to write my congressman about this. Everyone else should too.
And for Clinton to be colluding with this shocks me not at all. Why o` why, can`t I have a Democratic leader who isn`t a spineless git. Why? This idiocy doesn`t represent me.
And moreover: THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is what wants to join the EU.
Maybe we should be sending this to the fine people representing the EU in these talks.
Geoff
From : http://www.anca.org/ancadesk.php?adid=13
The Committee voted 24 to 11 to pass the resolution, rejecting intense pressure from the Turkish Government - represented at the committee meeting by a delegation from the Turkish Parliament - and its lobbying team led by former Congressmen Bob Livingston, Stephen Solarz, and Gerald Solomon.
What should you do today?
1) Immediately contact your Member of Congress and urge him/her to vote in support of H.Res.596 (note the new bill number, previously H.Res.398)
Bar, I noticed the 'Majority' was almost evenly split between the parties. So was the 'minority' who voted 'No.'
That's one thing that must Always be watched- a person can easily persuade those who are not likely to check, that the 'majority' meant those evil Republicans, right? I mean, who gives a Damn about the actual motives, who did what, what POTUS asked that this be dropped... (it apparently has been in the works for decades. It was Clinton who urged them to drop it in 2000. Let's see what happens This time).
Ahhh, the Internet. So easy to discover the truth of things...
Since the Soviet Empire fell into the dustbin of history (with a friendly 70 year push from Britain and the U.S.), what use is Turkey as an "ally"? We don't need their military help for anything. They wouldn't let us use their northern border to invade Iraq two years ago, today, and their behavior is jihad-lite, at best.
Is it just so northern Europeans can have cheap labor and a place for low-priced vacations?
I say, let them join the jihad, openly, and stay out of the EU until they renounce the hateful belief of Islam entirely.
What other religion considers its women worth half a man?
Why is any woman with more than half a brain in this faith?
Or does that not answer itself?
Any country that swears allegiance to a pedophile and believes in a deity that sanctions lying and murder as 'holy' needs to be isolated from the fruits of civilization. Until they join the humane race.
(I'm not holding my breath...
I prefer something with a banana clip instead.)
I wish so many of the contributors to these threads did not have this idiotic itch to insult Europe for no reason at all. Let me explain the situation with regard to Turkey. First, the action has come entirely from Turkey. For decades, successive Turkish governments have begged, more or less on their knees, insistingly, continuously, to be let into the EU (or, as it was before, the EEC). They have used every means in the book to get promises, half-promises, diplomatic half-words that could be twisted into promises, and any kind of contact at all. NO Europan was ever enthusiastic about admitting Turkey to the club, except the British enemies of Europe, who hoped that by enlarging the community until it could no longer be managed, it would eventually be reduced to what they wanted it to be - a free-trade zone.
Most recently, in their eagerness to be let into the Big Boys' Club, the Turks made genuine and serious reforms to their laws and constitution, outlawing torture, recognizing minority rights, and reducing the role of the Army in politics. Faced with a long list of concessions from Turkey, the Europeans could not but budge a bit; though the admission of Turkey to Europe is by no means a foregone conclusion, it is at least on the table.
But the Turks, like the IRA and other thugs, cannot help but show their true faces sooner or later. Europeans were horrified by the brutal violence of the Turkish police on 8 March against a few hundred inoffensive women, and are dismayed to hear news of religious obstruction and semi-persecution, Armenian Holocaust denial, and all the sort of things with which the readers of this site are, alas, all too familiar. We are again becoming increasingly unhappy at the idea of admitting Turkey, because whatever laws it may have passed, it is becoming increasingly clear that many Turks have no real understanding of the common values that underpin United Europe. I rather think that the Turks will find their way inside the EU much more difficult than they hoped.
friends who don't respect your humanity are not your friends, no matter how often they smile in your face.
It's not called Turkey for nothing!