Once again an Iranian official couches this present conflict in explicitly religious terms -- a phenomenon that President Bush and virtually every Western analyst has been cowed into ignoring for fear of charges of "Islamophobia." When you see them on television, imagine a bunch of vintage 1938 talking heads congratulating themselves for analyzing the "root causes" of Kristallnacht without ever once mentioning Nazism.
August 1939 Alert from MEMRITV: "Top Iranian Official Ahmad Khatami: Israel and the US Should Fear the Day Our Missiles Land in the Heart of Tel Aviv":
Following are excerpts from a speech by Ahmad Khatami, member of the Iranian Assembly of Experts, which aired on the Iranian News Channel (IRINN) on August 15, 2006.Ahmad Khatami: This victory was promised in the Koran: "The party of Allah must triumph." On this occasion, I want to tell Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Olmert that they should learn a lesson from this shameful defeat. They should not bare their fangs, expose their stings, or make threats against Islamic Iran. They should learn a lesson from the fact that a single party [Hizbullah] has turned their days into dark nights. If they decided to display the slightest aggression against Islamic Iran, they should bear in mind that the missiles of the Lebanese Hizbullah, with a range of 70 kilometers, have turned Israel into a ghost-country. They should fear the day that our missiles, with a range of 2,000 kilometers, land in the heart of Tel Aviv. Therefore, we hope that Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Olmert have learned the necessary lesson. They should know that playing with Islam is like playing with a lion's tail.
I could go on and on and on with a rant, But why bother. Let's give them the war they want sooooo badly and end this. I'm ready. To all of our troops: Good Luck!
Would it be crazy to suggest that Iran intends to invade Iraq? Could they believe that an Iranian invasion would cause the Americans to withdraw?
They're definitely ramping up the rhetoric, but where it will lead is anybody's guess. I think they are begging for either Israel or the U.S. to attack them so the final conflict will ensue. These maniacs are delusional, insane, or both.
What will the dawn of 8/23 bring?
"What will the dawn of 8/23 bring?"
Hopefully a world without islam.
Ok Israel -- did you hear that? Sounds like they've made their intentions pretty clear and that THEY'RE the ones making threats.
Wow, those Muslims sure act brave as long as they have all those women and children to use as shields and martyrs .
Ratbags! All they do is talk the talk...
Iranian News Channel, August 1, 2006
Ahmadinejad:
“Today, the Iranian people is the owner of nuclear technology. Those who want to talk with our people should know what people they are talking to. If some believe they can keep talking to the Iranian people in the language of threats and aggressiveness, they should know that they are making a bitter mistake. If they have not realized this by now, they soon will, but then it will be too late.”
Notice AJ did not say, the Iranian people, “will soon posses, in the near future will be the owner of, is on the brink of owning”, nor “tomorrow will be the owner” of nuclear technology. He said “Today”.
Either AJ is stroking his scimitar again or Iran has already produced their first bomb. (and he is threatening to use it)
A friend says “Not possible. Their current centrifuge system could not have produced enough highly fissile material for a bomb yet. Besides, they haven’t tested it. If they have it, they don’t even know if it will work. Any testing would have been detected; I don’t care how far underground it was, and besides, the Iranians haven’t built anything that worked in the last 100 years.”
I replied:
Iran purchased a Laser based Uranium processing system (perhaps more than one) from the Russians (I think) awhile back. That system produces a larger quantity yield of a higher quality product in a much shorter time. It IS possible; and what if the first test is Tel Aviv? It doesn’t have to WORK. Just fizzle.
He thought a moment and said “Oh. For an A-Bomb to work correctly it requires a certain critical mass of highly processed Uranium. There are a series of switches (that don’t look anything like any switch you’ve seen around the house) to fire in an exact sequence microseconds apart, and a collector, machined to exact specs to channel the initial energy precisely to the fission material. If any of those are off just a little, the chain reaction is partial, unsustainable. A fizzle.
But a fizzle is still a formidable weapon. In some ways, worse than the A- Bomb. While the explosive yield is lower, the radiation level may be higher and half lifes of the residual may well be longer. In short, it’s still a very powerful bomb and it’s dirty.”
August22 asks if it would be crazy to suggest that Iran intends to invade Iraq. I think the answer to that is, “Yes. It would be crazy and unnecessary.” If Iran were to invade militarily, it would be an obvious act of war and the US would be justified, upon the world stage, in an all out retaliation against Iran. An exchange that Iran knows it would not survive.
The Shiite militias of Muqtada Al Sadr, the Badr gang, and the other 6, or 20, or dozens, of smaller groups, number somewhere between 200,000 and 2.5 million. (who really knows). Iran need only make sure those militias are well armed and give the order.
We’ve got what? 135 – 150,000 troops in theater? It would be a bloody massacre and Iran can claim innocence! Making US the bad guys if we retaliate. (Do any of our politicians have the fortitude to respond? I mean, do we have any proof? My god, what about world opinion? Can’t you just hear the caterwauling? The cacophony of evasion?)
At the same time, a resupplied and more tactically, strategically, capable Hisb’Allah and Hamas can be unleashed upon Israel.
We are unprepared for such a scenario and it would be days (at least!) before we could put any significant force into the area.
From that point onward the chessboard of war can be rearranged in numerous ways, most of them in Iran’s favor.
Hizb’Allah can rain Zelzals on Tel Aviv while Hamas delivers a nuke over the border by truck. Syria’s newly formed Hizb’Allah Lite, armed by Iran, advances toward Baghdad, or Haifa, or Tel Aviv, or Beirut. We perform a miracle airlift of tons of material and thousands of personnel into Iraq, and Iran nukes the green zone. Etc, Etc., unto chaos.....
Nah. Iran doesn’t need to invade anyone. They just move their pawns. Anything else would be crazy.
But then again, they ARE muslims.
Either way we will have to get off the dime soon.
Why can't people wake up and smell the coffee? These sycophants obviously like being Dhimmified into that submission. The Iranians language is Farsi they are a farse!
ok I spelled it wrong......arse!
Why is this person still allowed to spread this kind of hatred and encourage terror??? Why isn't he put away? The British have some major house-cleaning to do, that is, if they want to survive.
American my friend I fully agree with you as I am British, in the next ten years I too will be surrounded by them, but what do we do when we live in such a pc liberal society that cows down to any other people/ideology other than it's own indigenous folks. The truth is we don't have any political parties that cover what is needed, the BNP has some of the correct ideas but they don't want to support NATO and our US allies. Therefore I am forced to vote for me and support our troops that are on the frontline each day. Many of the things Tony Blair is doing, like supporting the US is correct, he is not a puppet. I am not saying I support any of his other cronies just that I admire him taking a political bashing for supporting the US and the WAR ON TERROR. Now as to the Jihadi's and their barmy army we'll have to see how the world stage plays.
"They should fear the day that our missiles, with a range of 2,000 kilometers," --Khatami.
Who who not be fearful living next door to cult-crazed fanatics hell-bent on destroying themselves as well as their enemy?
Yes, Israelis do fear the missiles, but they are actually better able to destroy the longer-range missiles than the shorter-range ones, which is why Hizballah did not make much use of its longer-range missiles.
sorry for the typo: Who who not be fearful
Who would not be fearful...
Muslims have been using fear for the past 1400 years. The only significant change is that we now have a large population of non-Muslims who cry "Islamophobia" every time we try to respond rationally and decisively to defeat the source of that fear.
I ain't not no physicist nor nuffink, but I think your basic nuke is just a minimum 2kg or so of fissile material, shaped into two hemispheres and slammed together with high explosive. It can't be much more complex than that anyway. I'm not sure a test is necessary - it would only be worthwhile if they were going for something trickier than the basic kit, or if they wanted to make a statement. It seems unlikely they'd be able to attempt say, a neutron bomb, and equally unlikely they'd want to test whatever they've got, in case in attracted an immediate pre-emptive strike. There seems little reason to suppose their 'test' wouldn't be an actual first strike.
If that's what's coming, I'm more concerned about the Commies siezing the opportunity... If East and West are supposed to be decommisioning at the same rate, maintaining an evenly matched stockpile, then any imbalance caused by deploying Western weapons against Islam will instantly give the Reds an advantage. Judging by their current attitudes, maybe thay'd take it
I dont think that its not that they dont know what the Iranians or the North Koreans etc are up to rather than they have to be seen to be doing the right thing to give them the moral stance or maybe its just that they want support from all the liberals, greenies, do-gooders and your average head in the sand "oh you cant do that mob!"
The only significant change is that we now have a large population of non-Muslims who cry "Islamophobia" every time we try to respond rationally and decisively to defeat the source of that fear.
Islamophobia is real. God help us, it's real and it's here and most of the West is as guilty as sin. We're too piss scared of Islam to even talk about it properly. Our heads of state can't talk about it. Our media definitely can't mention the "I" word. Only Moslems are qualified to discuss Islam, and the official word is that Islam means peace. Gearge and Tony are so Islamophobic they have to sleep with the light on. The BBC and CNN are having bed-wetting nightmares about it. The Catholic and Anglican churches are too terrified to go out after dark, and the Archbishop of York has subsequently had to set up a tent in York Minster. Islamophobes, each and every one.
Meanwhile, Ibrahim Mogda, MCB member, personal advisor to Blair, and on record as saying 7/7 was a great bonus for British Islam(tm), says blaming Islam for Islamic terrorism is "counterproductive"...
We would not be experiencing the rapid cohesion of these problems with N Korea and our Islamic 'religion of peaceniks' if we actually employed an effective intelligence apparatus in the West. And I'm not talking about policework and wiretapping. Imagine if our agencies had enough skill, craftiness, and authority to carry out true disruption and deception missions deep within these countries. Not leaflet dropping, but rather poisoning water supplies, inciting street riots, burning mosques and maddrassas down, and yes (sorry, Kerry voters) assassinating leaders and government officials. If we could take this step and go on the dirty tricks offensive, not just the "let's-spread-democracy-in-the-burka-world" fantasy, our enemies would be so preoccupied with civil unrest and personal paranoia that their ability to focus on the Great Satan would be greatly diminished. It would be nice to take the terror to the jihadists for once. Just imagine Ahmadinewallace trying to figure out who gave him salmonella poisoning while going on one of his anti-zionist rants in front of the mullahs. I doubt the average Tehran drugstore carries Islamodium.
Our leaders cannot be THAT stupid? Can they?
This is why so many are willing to buy into conspiracy theories. Our leaders can't be THAT stupid not to realise their little ME excursions are setting up a chain of Nazi theocracies. Surely they've read the Qur'an. They MUST know what's going on, it's their job. Surely...?
Great idea, love your real speak, any offers?
Newsbreak:
OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD !!!
that is what we should hit muslimblogs and websites with, just for that little short confusing effect, and the message that we are on to them..
Robert,
Glad that you are doing this good thing i mean JW as ppl here popularly call this site.
I am from India.
I am reading JW for the past year.I was tired of just reading and signed in to post some myself now as i am equipped with firsthad terror as im in india.Let me tell you that it has completely cleared the doubts that islam sucks and should be annihilated if humanity is ti exist.
also glad to know that u r a catholic
.
I am a born again catholic. (just a digress)
Also glad an indian (arujun.sevak) is making posts here. looks like indians are picking up to confront this global threat.
look forward to posting on this site.
We look forward to hearing from you as well, none of us are racists, we are just facing up to the all to obvious threat of Jihad and that of Islam.
We look forward to hearing from you as well, none of us are racists, we are just facing up the all to obvious threat of Jihad and that of Islam.
right the muslim countries would rather have surogate fighters, as they are too cowardly to put up the fight. its all talk and fight under the night till they can prove to have a viable nuclear bomb. Bush needs to use his prememptive powers very soon. for the disgust towards him, l would suggest has any other "Western" put up with an inch of abuse as Bush has? no, well he is being hammered by the Democrats and willing media, as much as l want Bush to do more, l have much less faith with the liberals from the Democrats. Carter should be tried for treason with the stuff he is saying right now, and l cannot beleive anyone has not called him on his major blunbers. Rush sorted out some of Carter's
awful blunders, and makes you appreciate Bush a whole lot more. l am not saying being satisfied with Bush, but would you rather have the alternative?
We just need to prod the GOP with more information,
without ripping them up as the leftist are doing so well right now. l mean did you hear the simpleton question from Wallce to the Iranian nutjob? this iranian nutjob spoke all the Democrats talking points, health care, etc. We are at war, and half the country has no clue.
We look forward to hearing from you as well, none of us are racists, we are just facing up to the all to obvious threat of Jihad and that of Islam.
OT
See the new C of E's "Hug a Nazi!" campaign:
http://www.churchnewspaper.com/news.php?read=on&number_key=5833&title=Church%20urged%20to%20reach%20out%20to%20alienated%20Muslim%20communities
Is'nt it high time we issued some warnings of our own?
No, eloivsdiablo, I'd just as soon that Mahmoud gets nuked by surprise as a little reminder of just who perfected the atomic bomb and, hint -- it wasn't A.Q. Khan.
M~ Please always remember: islam is Not a race.
But islam IS racist.
Domestos - Thanks for the C of E update. Nonsense like that is one of the reasons I am no longer an Episcopalian. Regards, MP
It looks like things are heating up!!
Kurds Flee Homes as Iran Shells Iraq's Northern Frontier
August 18, 2006
The Guardian
Michael Howard in Qandil Mountain
Turkey and Iran have dispatched tanks, artillery and thousands of troops to their frontiers with Iraq during the past few weeks in what appears to be a coordinated effort to disrupt the activities of Kurdish rebel bases. Scores of Kurds have fled their homes in the northern frontier region after four days of shelling by the Iranian army. Local officials said Turkey had also fired a number of shells into Iraqi territory
Could this be part of Irans Military Exercises???
What Israel needs now is not a Winston Churchill,
but a Paul Tibbetts. A Vlad Dracul would also
be good.
The problem is that Israel (and the Jewish people
in general) has a large fraction of leftist
peacenik types. You could see that with all of
this nonsense leafletting.
Some folks estimate the Israeli nuke arsenal at
around 300 warheads. 3 or 4 of those on Tehran
and Qom would send a positive message to the
Iranian leadership. Does Israel have what it
takes to survive? I wonder.
If the US was subjected to such harassment as
Israel gets, I'd say "nuke'em all" without
remorse.
Re: Iranian Official: Israel and the US Should Fear the Day Our Missiles Land in the Heart of Tel Aviv
So the "truce" is just a lull between attempts to wipe Israel out?-as if folks didn't know that, haven't known that for six decades?
This whole problem, including the Islamic Fascist threats, are a matter of common sense. If anyone had a neighbor who kept threatening to kill one's family, had a "neighbor" who already attempted to harm one's family, and the police (the United Nothings, e.g.) proved powerless to stop it, then the man of the house has to terminate the threat to his family. It's that simple.
Re: Iranian Official: Israel and the US Should Fear the Day Our Missiles Land in the Heart of Tel Aviv
So the "truce" is just a lull between attempts to wipe Israel out?-as if folks didn't know that, haven't known that for six decades?
This whole problem, including the Islamic Fascist threats, are a matter of common sense. If anyone had a neighbor who kept threatening to kill one's family, had a "neighbor" who already attempted to harm one's family, and the police (the United Nothings, e.g.) proved powerless to stop it, then the man of the house has to terminate the threat to his family. It's that simple.
"They should know that playing with Islam is like playing with a lion's tail."
Ok, in this case the only solution left is :
KILL THE LION(S)
"They should know that playing with Islam is like playing with a lion's tail."
Ok, in this case the only olution left is :
KILL THE LION(S)
KillHankKill,
Agreed sir. The best way to defeat enemies is to get them to destroy themselves. Iran cannot have a chance of uniting the Islamic world if the Sunnis and Shia are having a carnage concert smack dab in the middle of the crescent of doom. It cannot have a nuclear program if its scientists are mysteriously poisoned one night (or taken away by Buraq the magic flying pony aka rendition hits). It cannot ship arms to Syria and Lebanon if its warehouse and storage spaces are blown up. And it cannot continue to beat the propaganda drum if the mullahs keep turning up dead or strapped to a dead pig. That's how we need to fight this war.
KillHankKill,
Agreed sir. The best way to defeat enemies is to get them to destroy themselves. Iran cannot have a chance of uniting the Islamic world if the Sunnis and Shia are having a carnage concert smack dab in the middle of the crescent of doom. It cannot have a nuclear program if its scientists are mysteriously poisoned one night (or taken away by Buraq the magic flying pony aka rendition hits). It cannot ship arms to Syria and Lebanon if its warehouse and storage spaces are blown up. And it cannot continue to beat the propaganda drum if the mullahs keep turning up dead or strapped to a dead pig. That's how we need to fight this war.
KillHankKill,
Agreed sir. The best way to defeat enemies is to get them to destroy themselves. Iran cannot have a chance of uniting the Islamic world if the Sunnis and Shia are having a carnage concert smack dab in the middle of the crescent of doom. It cannot have a nuclear program if its scientists are mysteriously poisoned one night (or taken away by Buraq the magic flying pony aka rendition hits). It cannot ship arms to Syria and Lebanon if its warehouse and storage spaces are blown up. And it cannot continue to beat the propaganda drum if the mullahs keep turning up dead or strapped to a dead pig. That's how we need to fight this war.
I still don't know why the Pentagon hasn't as yet detonated an EMP weapon over Iranian and other threatening Islamic nations' air space. To my knowledge that would be the only thing that can stop them from continuing their plot to deploy weapons of mass destruction to slaughter non-Muslims around the world--especially missiles which would likely depend on electronic infrastructure to use.
This administration, like all other US adminstrations before it, just waited too bloody long to do anything about Islam's military build-up--especially with Iran which grows more menacing by the day. Worse, they probably KNOW they are failing America and freedom while they dither and diddle and continue to sit on their behinds collecting paychecks they like as not don't deserve.
Dialogue with Iran? That would be like dialogue with Hitler. Forget it. Iran has lied to us before the dialogue even started. What a stupid, useless idea(learned from the Neville Chamberlain School of Foreign Policy perhaps???)!!!!!!
The Bush Administration must really hate America in order to sit idly while Islam plots to destroy their nation. This whole situation just makes me sick. One thing is for sure, these Bush people are NOT looking out for America with their current non-policies! Somebody needs to inform them that campaign contributions won't get Americans out of this nightmare.
Sounds like the time is coming for Israel to turn Tehran into glass......